Immigrants Grow American GDP

[Street Juice]

The OP is a cut and paste because the OP nerd is apparently an illiterate, Europobic idiot who cannot write a paragraph in English. Folks, illegal aliens are not immigrants. Saying illegal aliens are legal immigrants is like saying a ghetto rapist who attacked your daughter last week is the same as your daughter's husband. They are both after the same thing and therefore law, order, ethics, truth, reality, good and evil does not matter.

What evidence do you have that "illegal aliens" are more likely to be rapists than native born Americans? Try thinking (if you can) about the situation like this: how does the US turn "illegal aliens" into legal immigrants, or are you sufficiently ignorant to believe the US is "full"?

We aren't "full". I have no problem legally allowing immigrants into our country that can make a contribution. They don't all have to be MDs, but they must show the ability to ecomically stand on their own 2 feet, otherwise, they are simply a drag. Trump has enforced this method, which Democrats call racist. The bottom line is that Democrats clearly want open borders and to allow anyone to come into the US, legally or not and whether they contribute or not. There is not ONE single sane person who thinks this is a recipe for success. We can't pay for healthcare and welfare for the entire world. That is what the far-left is pushing for, but some are too ignorant to see it.

We aren't "full". I have no problem legally allowing immigrants into our country that can make a contribution. They don't all have to be MDs, but they must show the ability to ecomically stand on their own 2 feet, otherwise, they are simply a drag

"There is no way to figure out precisely how many more immigrants the national economy could easily absorb without a lot of guessing. Powerful forces like technology, globalization and the decline in union strength can heave economies around willy-nilly, benefiting some workers and hurting others, regardless of immigration."

How many migrants are too many?

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November.

"In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

Is Immigration at Its Limit? Not for Employers

Tell the asshole he could get all the workers he needs if he paid a competitive wage.

Tell the asshole he could get all the workers he needs if he paid a competitive wage

What would a competitive wage for farm work be in your informed opinion?

Is Immigration at Its Limit? Not for Employers

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed.

"That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers.

"'In every market that we’re in, we’re dealing with staffing shortages,' said Pilar Carvajal, the founder and chief executive of Innovation Senior Management, which manages seven assisted-living centers in Florida. Entry-level workers in the area make from $10 to $12 an hour — the same as a dishwasher and slightly more than a farmworker."

"What would a competitive wage for farm work be in your informed opinion?"
​

An informed opinion knows, first of all, that "informed opinions" have no idea what the "competitive wage" is. But the market does. An informed opinion also knows there is no such thing as a "labor shortage". To say there is a labor shortage in the United States is as absurd as saying the US doesn't have enough Americans.

 

[Bush92]

Illegals are and have been a net loss to the U.S. Plus they rape and kill Americans.

Illegals bring in better foods, they work harder, add countless GDP and commit crime at a rate similar to Americans.

I don’t want disease and crime. Don’t confuse the immigrants of today with those of yesteryear.

 

[Bush92]

Immigrants make America a much more diverse and happy place. Immigrants bring new foods, add higher workloads, they also work for cheaper racking up profits.

Idiot immigration issue is obviously over your head because you can’t get the picture that anyone with common sense can easily see. Illegals are a detriment to our nation.

 

[Bush92]

Weird, a guy who constantly moans about capitalists taking advantage of workers wants to flood America with cheap labor.

I'm not sure how a "free market" is supposed to distribute wealth equitably if capital is free to cross national borders and labor is not?

So what’s your contribution to economic growth? Guy throws a fiver on the ground and you follow it down?

So what’s your contribution to economic growth? Guy throws a fiver on the ground and you follow it down?

I don't swallow every load Trump spews out.
Why do you?

Will Trump Destroy the Dollar?

You swallowed every load that Hillary, Obama and Slick Willy spewed out.

With a straw (a plastic one I hope)

 

[Norman]

Illegals are and have been a net loss to the U.S. Plus they rape and kill Americans.

Illegals bring in better foods, they work harder, add countless GDP and commit crime at a rate similar to Americans.

I don’t want disease and crime. Don’t confuse the immigrants of today with those of yesteryear.

White hard working Europeans who immigrated in order to assume the American values of liberty.

Vs.

Third world gang who is interested in benefiting from the American fruits of labor, assuming allegiance to their 3rd world values instead. They vote democrat in every occasion and hate the country just as much as the democrats. They include people like Omar and many other socialists.

Clearly all the same. By the way, can someone explain why so many of our immigrants come from Mexico? Is it really the most compatible country with America out there?

 

[georgephillip]

What happens when you have 1.3 million more job openings than unemployed workers seeking jobs?

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed. That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers...."

Ten thousand baby boomers retire every day, and US birth rates are at a three decade low:

"Using census data, the investment company the Blackstone Group estimates that without immigration, the working-age population between 25 and 64 years old would drop by 17 million by 2035.

"'We really need immigrants,' Byron R. Wien, vice chairman of Blackstone’s Private Wealth Solutions group, said during the company’s quarterly webcast last month. 'If we have a shrinking population, it’s going to be tough to have rising G.D.P.,' or gross domestic product."

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November. In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

AUTOMATION! Its coming anyway and we have to deport 22 million illegal scumballs.

AUTOMATION! Its coming anyway and we have to deport 22 million illegal scumballs.

Machines and Immigrants Are After Your Job; We Bring Them Together in a Bot

 

[Bush92]

Illegals are and have been a net loss to the U.S. Plus they rape and kill Americans.

Illegals bring in better foods, they work harder, add countless GDP and commit crime at a rate similar to Americans.

I don’t want disease and crime. Don’t confuse the immigrants of today with those of yesteryear.

White hard working Europeans who immigrated in order to assume the American values.

Vs.

Third world gang who is interested in benefiting from the American fruits of labor, assuming allegiance to their 3rd world values instead. They vote democrat in every occasion and hate the country just as much as the democrats.

Clearly all the same. By the way, can someone explain why so many of our immigrants come from Mexico? Is it really the most compatible country with America out there?

Cartels need drug mules. That’s why so many come from Mexico, a nation with a corrupt government and shitty economy. Hmmmm, wonder what the corrupt politicians and drug lords who thrive in Mexico(because of the lack of order and rule of law) would like to turn the United States into? They see the United States as a burgeoning market for illicit activities and political bribery.

 

[georgephillip]

What happens when you have 1.3 million more job openings than unemployed workers seeking jobs?

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed. That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers...."

Ten thousand baby boomers retire every day, and US birth rates are at a three decade low:

"Using census data, the investment company the Blackstone Group estimates that without immigration, the working-age population between 25 and 64 years old would drop by 17 million by 2035.

"'We really need immigrants,' Byron R. Wien, vice chairman of Blackstone’s Private Wealth Solutions group, said during the company’s quarterly webcast last month. 'If we have a shrinking population, it’s going to be tough to have rising G.D.P.,' or gross domestic product."

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November. In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

very simple - more workers = lower pay and higher prices
....look at the immigrant capital of the US = California--almost bottom 4th in poverty and most expensive place to live .
New York also

ery simple - more workers = lower pay and higher prices
....look at the immigrant capital of the US = California--almost bottom 4th in poverty and most expensive place to live .
New York also

California poverty levels have one prime driver and it's not the number of migrants in the community:

California ranks No. 1 in poverty once again. Take one guess why.

"Why is California No. 1?

"The main culprit? Experts say it’s the high cost of housing.

"'We do have a housing crisis in many parts of the state and our poverty rate is highest in Los Angeles County,' Caroline Danielson, policy director at the Public Policy Institute of California, told The Sacramento Bee. 'When you factor that in we struggle.'"

Immigrants make up a majority of the neighborhood I've lived in since 1995. At that time the market rent for a single (0 bedroom) apartment was $375/month.

Today the same unit rents for $1350/month AFTER the biggest economic downturn since the Great Depression. Do immigrants get the blame for that as well?

 

[SmokeALib]

What happens when you have 1.3 million more job openings than unemployed workers seeking jobs?

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed. That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers...."

Ten thousand baby boomers retire every day, and US birth rates are at a three decade low:

"Using census data, the investment company the Blackstone Group estimates that without immigration, the working-age population between 25 and 64 years old would drop by 17 million by 2035.

"'We really need immigrants,' Byron R. Wien, vice chairman of Blackstone’s Private Wealth Solutions group, said during the company’s quarterly webcast last month. 'If we have a shrinking population, it’s going to be tough to have rising G.D.P.,' or gross domestic product."

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November. In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

very simple - more workers = lower pay and higher prices
....look at the immigrant capital of the US = California--almost bottom 4th in poverty and most expensive place to live .
New York also

ery simple - more workers = lower pay and higher prices
....look at the immigrant capital of the US = California--almost bottom 4th in poverty and most expensive place to live .
New York also

California poverty levels have one prime driver and it's not the number of migrants in the community:

California ranks No. 1 in poverty once again. Take one guess why.

"Why is California No. 1?

"The main culprit? Experts say it’s the high cost of housing.

"'We do have a housing crisis in many parts of the state and our poverty rate is highest in Los Angeles County,' Caroline Danielson, policy director at the Public Policy Institute of California, told The Sacramento Bee. 'When you factor that in we struggle.'"

Immigrants make up a majority of the neighborhood I've lived in since 1995. At that time the market rent for a single (0 bedroom) apartment was $375/month.

Today the same unit rents for $1350/month AFTER the biggest economic downturn since the Great Depression. Do immigrants get the blame for that as well?

^^^^^^^
Dumass

 

[harmonica]

What happens when you have 1.3 million more job openings than unemployed workers seeking jobs?

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed. That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers...."

Ten thousand baby boomers retire every day, and US birth rates are at a three decade low:

"Using census data, the investment company the Blackstone Group estimates that without immigration, the working-age population between 25 and 64 years old would drop by 17 million by 2035.

"'We really need immigrants,' Byron R. Wien, vice chairman of Blackstone’s Private Wealth Solutions group, said during the company’s quarterly webcast last month. 'If we have a shrinking population, it’s going to be tough to have rising G.D.P.,' or gross domestic product."

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November. In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

very simple - more workers = lower pay and higher prices
....look at the immigrant capital of the US = California--almost bottom 4th in poverty and most expensive place to live .
New York also

ery simple - more workers = lower pay and higher prices
....look at the immigrant capital of the US = California--almost bottom 4th in poverty and most expensive place to live .
New York also

California poverty levels have one prime driver and it's not the number of migrants in the community:

California ranks No. 1 in poverty once again. Take one guess why.

"Why is California No. 1?

"The main culprit? Experts say it’s the high cost of housing.

"'We do have a housing crisis in many parts of the state and our poverty rate is highest in Los Angeles County,' Caroline Danielson, policy director at the Public Policy Institute of California, told The Sacramento Bee. 'When you factor that in we struggle.'"

Immigrants make up a majority of the neighborhood I've lived in since 1995. At that time the market rent for a single (0 bedroom) apartment was $375/month.

Today the same unit rents for $1350/month AFTER the biggest economic downturn since the Great Depression. Do immigrants get the blame for that as well?

^^^^^^^
Dumass

..and we have to try to logically and civilly discuss with these people!
..I had two idiots like this the other day on USMB

 

[georgephillip]

how does the US turn "illegal aliens" into legal immigrants

Why Should We
Illegals Busting Down The Doors
Knocks All Others To The Back Of The Bus

Why Do You Quote-Mark "Illegal Aliens"
When That Is Exactly What They Are
Compared To Actual "Immigrants"

Why Should We
Illegals Busting Down The Doors
Knocks All Others To The Back Of The Bus

Currently, the US has 7.3 million job openings and 6 million unemployed workers. Birthrates for native born Americans have fallen to their lowest level in three decades. 10,000 baby boomers retire every day. Immigrants solve those problems.

Is Immigration at Its Limit? Not for Employers

"Using census data, the investment company the Blackstone Group estimates that without immigration, the working-age population between 25 and 64 years old would drop by 17 million by 2035.

"'We really need immigrants,' Byron R. Wien, vice chairman of Blackstone’s Private Wealth Solutions group, said during the company’s quarterly webcast last month. 'If we have a shrinking population, it’s going to be tough to have rising G.D.P.,' or gross domestic product."

 

[SmokeALib]

What happens when you have 1.3 million more job openings than unemployed workers seeking jobs?

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed. That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers...."

Ten thousand baby boomers retire every day, and US birth rates are at a three decade low:

"Using census data, the investment company the Blackstone Group estimates that without immigration, the working-age population between 25 and 64 years old would drop by 17 million by 2035.

"'We really need immigrants,' Byron R. Wien, vice chairman of Blackstone’s Private Wealth Solutions group, said during the company’s quarterly webcast last month. 'If we have a shrinking population, it’s going to be tough to have rising G.D.P.,' or gross domestic product."

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November. In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

very simple - more workers = lower pay and higher prices
....look at the immigrant capital of the US = California--almost bottom 4th in poverty and most expensive place to live .
New York also

ery simple - more workers = lower pay and higher prices
....look at the immigrant capital of the US = California--almost bottom 4th in poverty and most expensive place to live .
New York also

California poverty levels have one prime driver and it's not the number of migrants in the community:

California ranks No. 1 in poverty once again. Take one guess why.

"Why is California No. 1?

"The main culprit? Experts say it’s the high cost of housing.

"'We do have a housing crisis in many parts of the state and our poverty rate is highest in Los Angeles County,' Caroline Danielson, policy director at the Public Policy Institute of California, told The Sacramento Bee. 'When you factor that in we struggle.'"

Immigrants make up a majority of the neighborhood I've lived in since 1995. At that time the market rent for a single (0 bedroom) apartment was $375/month.

Today the same unit rents for $1350/month AFTER the biggest economic downturn since the Great Depression. Do immigrants get the blame for that as well?

^^^^^^^
Dumass

..and we have to try to logically and civilly discuss with these people!
..I had two idiots like this the other day on USMB

It's like arguing with a five year old child. You have to keep it simple with these traitors - thus the term "dumass".

 

[Third Party]

What happens when you have 1.3 million more job openings than unemployed workers seeking jobs?

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed. That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers...."

Ten thousand baby boomers retire every day, and US birth rates are at a three decade low:

"Using census data, the investment company the Blackstone Group estimates that without immigration, the working-age population between 25 and 64 years old would drop by 17 million by 2035.

"'We really need immigrants,' Byron R. Wien, vice chairman of Blackstone’s Private Wealth Solutions group, said during the company’s quarterly webcast last month. 'If we have a shrinking population, it’s going to be tough to have rising G.D.P.,' or gross domestic product."

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November. In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

very simple - more workers = lower pay and higher prices
....look at the immigrant capital of the US = California--almost bottom 4th in poverty and most expensive place to live .
New York also

ery simple - more workers = lower pay and higher prices
....look at the immigrant capital of the US = California--almost bottom 4th in poverty and most expensive place to live .
New York also

California poverty levels have one prime driver and it's not the number of migrants in the community:

California ranks No. 1 in poverty once again. Take one guess why.

"Why is California No. 1?

"The main culprit? Experts say it’s the high cost of housing.

"'We do have a housing crisis in many parts of the state and our poverty rate is highest in Los Angeles County,' Caroline Danielson, policy director at the Public Policy Institute of California, told The Sacramento Bee. 'When you factor that in we struggle.'"

Immigrants make up a majority of the neighborhood I've lived in since 1995. At that time the market rent for a single (0 bedroom) apartment was $375/month.

Today the same unit rents for $1350/month AFTER the biggest economic downturn since the Great Depression. Do immigrants get the blame for that as well?

Immigrants or ILLEGALS? Big difference-or do BOTH get welfare?

 

[Wyatt earp]

What happens when you have 1.3 million more job openings than unemployed workers seeking jobs?

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed. That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers...."

Ten thousand baby boomers retire every day, and US birth rates are at a three decade low:

"Using census data, the investment company the Blackstone Group estimates that without immigration, the working-age population between 25 and 64 years old would drop by 17 million by 2035.

"'We really need immigrants,' Byron R. Wien, vice chairman of Blackstone’s Private Wealth Solutions group, said during the company’s quarterly webcast last month. 'If we have a shrinking population, it’s going to be tough to have rising G.D.P.,' or gross domestic product."

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November. In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

Low wages you fuck tard

 

[harmonica]

What happens when you have 1.3 million more job openings than unemployed workers seeking jobs?

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed. That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers...."

Ten thousand baby boomers retire every day, and US birth rates are at a three decade low:

"Using census data, the investment company the Blackstone Group estimates that without immigration, the working-age population between 25 and 64 years old would drop by 17 million by 2035.

"'We really need immigrants,' Byron R. Wien, vice chairman of Blackstone’s Private Wealth Solutions group, said during the company’s quarterly webcast last month. 'If we have a shrinking population, it’s going to be tough to have rising G.D.P.,' or gross domestic product."

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November. In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

very simple - more workers = lower pay and higher prices
....look at the immigrant capital of the US = California--almost bottom 4th in poverty and most expensive place to live .
New York also

ery simple - more workers = lower pay and higher prices
....look at the immigrant capital of the US = California--almost bottom 4th in poverty and most expensive place to live .
New York also

California poverty levels have one prime driver and it's not the number of migrants in the community:

California ranks No. 1 in poverty once again. Take one guess why.

"Why is California No. 1?

"The main culprit? Experts say it’s the high cost of housing.

"'We do have a housing crisis in many parts of the state and our poverty rate is highest in Los Angeles County,' Caroline Danielson, policy director at the Public Policy Institute of California, told The Sacramento Bee. 'When you factor that in we struggle.'"

Immigrants make up a majority of the neighborhood I've lived in since 1995. At that time the market rent for a single (0 bedroom) apartment was $375/month.

Today the same unit rents for $1350/month AFTER the biggest economic downturn since the Great Depression. Do immigrants get the blame for that as well?

^^^^^^^
Dumass

..and we have to try to logically and civilly discuss with these people!
..I had two idiots like this the other day on USMB

It's like arguing with a five year old child. You have to keep it simple with this traitors - thus the term "dumass".

....does GP even realize the housing is high because of the high population--much of it caused by immigrants AND illegals??!!
GP are you listening ????!!

 

[georgephillip]

What happens when you have 1.3 million more job openings than unemployed workers seeking jobs?

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed. That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers...."

Ten thousand baby boomers retire every day, and US birth rates are at a three decade low:

"Using census data, the investment company the Blackstone Group estimates that without immigration, the working-age population between 25 and 64 years old would drop by 17 million by 2035.

"'We really need immigrants,' Byron R. Wien, vice chairman of Blackstone’s Private Wealth Solutions group, said during the company’s quarterly webcast last month. 'If we have a shrinking population, it’s going to be tough to have rising G.D.P.,' or gross domestic product."

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November. In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

very simple - more workers = lower pay and higher prices
....look at the immigrant capital of the US = California--almost bottom 4th in poverty and most expensive place to live ..also

And they keep raising taxes to pay for the perks and pay raises government agencies and labor unions are demanding. Its a vicious cycle and it is stripping wealth from all average workers.

And they keep raising taxes to pay for the perks and pay raises government agencies and labor unions are demanding. Its a vicious cycle and it is stripping wealth from all average workers.

Maybe they should raise taxes on those who aren't paying their fair share?

Corporate Tax Avoidance Remains Rampant Under New Tax Law

 

[Third Party]

What happens when you have 1.3 million more job openings than unemployed workers seeking jobs?

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed. That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers...."

Ten thousand baby boomers retire every day, and US birth rates are at a three decade low:

"Using census data, the investment company the Blackstone Group estimates that without immigration, the working-age population between 25 and 64 years old would drop by 17 million by 2035.

"'We really need immigrants,' Byron R. Wien, vice chairman of Blackstone’s Private Wealth Solutions group, said during the company’s quarterly webcast last month. 'If we have a shrinking population, it’s going to be tough to have rising G.D.P.,' or gross domestic product."

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November. In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

very simple - more workers = lower pay and higher prices
....look at the immigrant capital of the US = California--almost bottom 4th in poverty and most expensive place to live ..also

And they keep raising taxes to pay for the perks and pay raises government agencies and labor unions are demanding. Its a vicious cycle and it is stripping wealth from all average workers.

And they keep raising taxes to pay for the perks and pay raises government agencies and labor unions are demanding. Its a vicious cycle and it is stripping wealth from all average workers.

Maybe they should raise taxes on those who aren't paying their fair share?

Corporate Tax Avoidance Remains Rampant Under New Tax Law

Or illegals? Or legal immigrants-bet they take in WAY more than they pay-if they pay at all.

 

[harmonica]

What happens when you have 1.3 million more job openings than unemployed workers seeking jobs?

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed. That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers...."

Ten thousand baby boomers retire every day, and US birth rates are at a three decade low:

"Using census data, the investment company the Blackstone Group estimates that without immigration, the working-age population between 25 and 64 years old would drop by 17 million by 2035.

"'We really need immigrants,' Byron R. Wien, vice chairman of Blackstone’s Private Wealth Solutions group, said during the company’s quarterly webcast last month. 'If we have a shrinking population, it’s going to be tough to have rising G.D.P.,' or gross domestic product."

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November. In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

very simple - more workers = lower pay and higher prices
....look at the immigrant capital of the US = California--almost bottom 4th in poverty and most expensive place to live ..also

And they keep raising taxes to pay for the perks and pay raises government agencies and labor unions are demanding. Its a vicious cycle and it is stripping wealth from all average workers.

And they keep raising taxes to pay for the perks and pay raises government agencies and labor unions are demanding. Its a vicious cycle and it is stripping wealth from all average workers.

Maybe they should raise taxes on those who aren't paying their fair share?

Corporate Tax Avoidance Remains Rampant Under New Tax Law

like on the rich?

 

[georgephillip]

very simple - more workers = lower pay and higher prices
....look at the immigrant capital of the US = California--almost bottom 4th in poverty and most expensive place to live .
New York also

ery simple - more workers = lower pay and higher prices
....look at the immigrant capital of the US = California--almost bottom 4th in poverty and most expensive place to live .
New York also

California poverty levels have one prime driver and it's not the number of migrants in the community:

California ranks No. 1 in poverty once again. Take one guess why.

"Why is California No. 1?

"The main culprit? Experts say it’s the high cost of housing.

"'We do have a housing crisis in many parts of the state and our poverty rate is highest in Los Angeles County,' Caroline Danielson, policy director at the Public Policy Institute of California, told The Sacramento Bee. 'When you factor that in we struggle.'"

Immigrants make up a majority of the neighborhood I've lived in since 1995. At that time the market rent for a single (0 bedroom) apartment was $375/month.

Today the same unit rents for $1350/month AFTER the biggest economic downturn since the Great Depression. Do immigrants get the blame for that as well?

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Dumass

..and we have to try to logically and civilly discuss with these people!
..I had two idiots like this the other day on USMB

It's like arguing with a five year old child. You have to keep it simple with this traitors - thus the term "dumass".

....does GP even realize the housing is high because of the high population--much of it caused by immigrants AND illegals??!!
GP are you listening ????!!

does GP even realize the housing is high because of the high population--much of it caused by immigrants AND illegals??!!
GP are you listening ????!!

To repeat: Rents in my immigrant-heavy neighborhood have risen from $375/month 24 years ago to $1350 today without any noticeable increase in population. To make matters worse, current incentives favor building new rental units aimed at high income/net worth individuals and not at a majority of renters in the area. Who's getting rich from that, undocumented migrants?

 

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What happens when you have 1.3 million more job openings than unemployed workers seeking jobs?

Economic Antidote for a Shrinking America: Immigrants

"At the moment, there are 7.3 million job openings nationwide and six million people unemployed. That gap is expected to widen as the number of retirees grows faster than the number of new workers...."

Ten thousand baby boomers retire every day, and US birth rates are at a three decade low:

"Using census data, the investment company the Blackstone Group estimates that without immigration, the working-age population between 25 and 64 years old would drop by 17 million by 2035.

"'We really need immigrants,' Byron R. Wien, vice chairman of Blackstone’s Private Wealth Solutions group, said during the company’s quarterly webcast last month. 'If we have a shrinking population, it’s going to be tough to have rising G.D.P.,' or gross domestic product."

"This past tomato season, DiMare Fresh, a family-owned distributor with farms in Florida and California, had scores of unfilled jobs..."

"Tomato season in Florida doesn’t resume until November. In the meantime, Mr. DiMare shakes his head when asked about detentions at the border and deportation raids.

"'They want to send all these people back,' he said. 'Who the hell is going to do all this work?'"

very simple - more workers = lower pay and higher prices
....look at the immigrant capital of the US = California--almost bottom 4th in poverty and most expensive place to live ..also

And they keep raising taxes to pay for the perks and pay raises government agencies and labor unions are demanding. Its a vicious cycle and it is stripping wealth from all average workers.

And they keep raising taxes to pay for the perks and pay raises government agencies and labor unions are demanding. Its a vicious cycle and it is stripping wealth from all average workers.

Maybe they should raise taxes on those who aren't paying their fair share?

Corporate Tax Avoidance Remains Rampant Under New Tax Law

Or illegals? Or legal immigrants-bet they take in WAY more than they pay-if they pay at all.

all the $$$$ spent on ICE [not standard, but rounding up/etc illegals ] /courts/police/FRAUD/etc is much more than they pay in taxes