I'll tell you what personal freedom and liberty is

[ScienceRocks]

I'll tell you what personal freedom and liberty is: It is the ability to have fun and do as you wish.
-Want to go to a casino? Well, you should be able to!
-Want to smoke pot and snort meth? Well, you should be able to!
-Want to watch naked girls and fucking anytime you wish? Well, you should be able to!!!
-Want to drink as much as you want? You're adult, right?
-Want to dress as the opposite sex? Why not? You're not hurting anyone!
-Want to fuck 3 women and a guy in the comfort of your own home? You do believe in private property? Right???
-Want to build a flying car or jet pack and do something crazy? Why not???
-Want to be able to take your idea from paper to the market place without being told no? Why not?

This is liberty

 

[ScienceRocks]

Liberty in reality is being able to have fun and no one stops you.

 

[there4eyeM]

One is 'free' to do whatever does not provoke a reaction in others to impede one.

 

[there4eyeM]

Of course, this is talking about the 'physical' world. In consciousness, in the mind, a human is free in the absolute. This is dizzying knowledge, however, and very dangerous in the context of personal and collective history. Few people have successfully dealt with this freedom, and many have fallen into the pitfalls it presents our egos.

 

[ScienceRocks]

I am going to resist the fascist religious cult by talking about real liberty like the right to fuck, do drugs, gamble, and maybe at the end of the day think critically about things that piss these fascist off.

If they don't like it and wish to silence me with government then they're fascist and anti-freedom

 

[there4eyeM]

You are free to desist from the general tendency in threads here to use words in ways that destroy their usefulness. 'Fascist' should be reserved for fascism, and religion for religion are examples. Your frustration is understood and noted, however.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Hey Matt. Don't forget your right to kill any child you created whose life you feel is "punishment" for you.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Liberty in reality is being able to have fun and no one stops you.

Said Ted Bundy

 

[there4eyeM]

Giving birth is giving death. A woman decides to put a person into the world, and she decides that person will die.

 

[pismoe]

these lib dems are pretty messed up .

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Giving birth is giving death. A woman decides to put a person into the world, and she decides that person will die.

So women have special rights in deciding if another innocent person should die. You are evil

 

[there4eyeM]

A statement of fact is mistaken for an opinion. Poor reading skills?

 

[there4eyeM]

these lib dems are pretty messed up .

Knowing nothing of "dems", it can only be wondered at whom you direct this. In any case, your argument is with nature. Everything born, dies.