Xenophon
Gone and forgotten
I celibrated him being planted and still do.
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National news said that he was well known by local law enforcement and had been in trouble before.Did they ever report about the guy she shot?
Was he trying to break in or was he some drunk pounding on the wrong door?
you don't pay attention do ya? He threw a chair and a patio table through the window and entered the house. now he is dead and has no one to blame except himself.
I've seen all the talk on this thread that he was scum, a rapist and everyone seems glad he is dead. I was just wondering about the circumstances. Does he have a criminal record? Is he a sex offender? I have seen cases where people get so drunk they think someone elses home is theirs and they try to break in.
Just trying to get some facts. I don't mean to get in the way of your celebration that this guy got shot
For the sake of clarity, I don't know that a good aim should be praised. It was a shotgun after all.He was an amazing call. Her calmness, her level-headedness, her high level of remorse and her great aim!
that's the beauty of a shotgun,, you just have to point it in the general direction of the pig you are going to kill!
Do you understand the difference between a 'Right' and a 'Privilege'?Woman Shoots Intruder During 911 Call - The Early Show - CBS News
I suppose you anti gun freaks would rather she got raped and killed by this intruder.Oklahoma resident Donna Jackson faced a life or death situation when an intruder tried to break into her rural-area home last Friday.
Home alone, but armed with a shotgun, 57-year-old Jackson called 911 and begged for help, but police couldnt get there before the man was able to break through a glass door with a chair and patio table.
Jackson, who stayed on the phone with the 911 dispatcher, can be heard in the call saying, "I don't want to have to kill this man, but I'll kill him graveyard dead, ma'am."
When the intruder broke through the door, Jackson dropped the phone. A minute later, Jackson was forced to shoot, and the suspect, Billy Riley, 53, was killed. According to the local district attorney's office, Jackson won't be charged with a crime. During the call, the 911 operator told Jackson it was legal for her to defend her home.
Gee, what were the odds that this woman would be threatened in her own home?
One in a billion? Looks like she hit the lottery, good thing she had that shotgun.
I suppose some want to take your gun away, but they're the few not the many; and, there is no serious threat to the second amendment RIGHT, but in the mind of the paranoid and/or the propagandists. This thread maybe an example of someone who is a member of both populations.
The problem with gun nuts - no, not the ones suggested by the OP - those who believe any restriction on firearms is cause for alarm, is they lack common sense. The only difference between a gun and a car - in terms of danger - is that the former is constitutionally protected.
Laws require those who drive a car to be licensed, insured and to operate the vehicle in a safe manner within specific parameters (on roadways designed for car traffic).
All of which make sense in terms of the general welfare. Yet, suggest to the OP or the NRA that a person be required to obtain a license, and that license be renewed annually before they may legally own, possess or have in their custody or control a firearm, and watch how they react. Or that firearms may not be carried - openly and concealed - in any public place; or that a limit on the amount or type of ammunition be imposed if and when a jurisdiction allows for open carry.
The right of our people to defend their homes is not the question, the stability, character and responsibility of the gun owner is the issue.
I'll second that nomination!I also nominate this perp (the dead guy) for the Darwin Award....I'm sure she warned him. I'm sure he heard her cock the shotgun (a very distinctive sound, btw). Glad he's out of the Gene Pool.
True but those who grow orgasmic over someone dying bothers me a bit.
There was nothing good about what this woman did. She killed a man and will live with this for the rest of her life. She didnt want to kill him and begged God for forgivness. She had to anyway.
Yes it was good that she saved herself but no, killing a man, a human being, isnt good. Some of you have serious partisan issues.
Im a democrat that supports guns, imagine that. Im glad she protected herself but its too bad she had to do what she did.
Woman Shoots Intruder During 911 Call - The Early Show - CBS News
I suppose you anti gun freaks would rather she got raped and killed by this intruder.
Gee, what were the odds that this woman would be threatened in her own home?
One in a billion? Looks like she hit the lottery, good thing she had that shotgun.
I suppose some want to take your gun away, but they're the few not the many; and, there is no serious threat to the second amendment RIGHT, but in the mind of the paranoid and/or the propagandists. This thread maybe an example of someone who is a member of both populations.
The problem with gun nuts - no, not the ones suggested by the OP - those who believe any restriction on firearms is cause for alarm, is they lack common sense. The only difference between a gun and a car - in terms of danger - is that the former is constitutionally protected.
Laws require those who drive a car to be licensed, insured and to operate the vehicle in a safe manner within specific parameters (on roadways designed for car traffic).
All of which make sense in terms of the general welfare. Yet, suggest to the OP or the NRA that a person be required to obtain a license, and that license be renewed annually before they may legally own, possess or have in their custody or control a firearm, and watch how they react. Or that firearms may not be carried - openly and concealed - in any public place; or that a limit on the amount or type of ammunition be imposed if and when a jurisdiction allows for open carry.
The right of our people to defend their homes is not the question, the stability, character and responsibility of the gun owner is the issue.
do a little research before you open your yap WRY....the main reason for being against gun registration is because then they now know who exactly owns them...and if you think no regime in this country would try to confiscate them.....i ask you why would you think that?.....look what happened in Australia....they knew who had them and how many....according to a Aussie former gun owner who posts on another board...they came right to his house and told him,we can do this the easy way or the hard way.....and they knew exactly how many and what type he owned....
If he was just a drunk with no criminal record, it would be justified to do what he did? Don't see where you're going with this. Should people run a criminal background check and offer a breathalyzer before they shoot? Even getting so shitfaced that you break into other peoples homes can sometimes get you dead. Graveyard dead.
Does anyone know of any states where it might be illegal to shoot someone dead in your own home or property?
I'm not questioning the right of the poor woman to shoot the guy. She did not know if he was a serial killer or a lost motorist. Once he broke in, she had no choice. I am merely reacting to the posts on this thread seemingly celebrating the guys death and calling him scum.
I just wanted to know if anyone had any information on the guy that was killed
You make an interesting point. A guy down here got charged for shooting at a couple of dudes who stole his farm bike. He shot in their general direction and hit one in the arse (didn't kill him)..While they were waiting for the cops, the guy who got shot goes "you didn't have to shoot me bro". So it is interesting about whether you have that right to shoot if somebody is retreating. That said, this type of incident is over in seconds/minutes, yet law enforcement and lawyers will spend days/weeks dissecting every second..
how many times do you have to be told to shut the fuck up?
In general, one (sometimes more) of a variety of conditions must be met before a person can legally use the Castle Doctrine:
* An intruder must be making (or have made) an attempt to unlawfully and/or forcibly enter an occupied home, business or car.
* The intruder must be acting illegallye.g. the Castle Doctrine does not give the right to attack officers of the law acting in the course of their legal duties
* The occupant(s) of the home must reasonably believe that the intruder intends to inflict serious bodily harm or death upon an occupant of the home
* The occupant(s) of the home must reasonably believe that the intruder intends to commit some other felony, such as arson or burglary
* The occupant(s) of the home must not have provoked or instigated an intrusion, or provoked or instigated an intruder to threaten or use deadly force
* The occupant(s) of the home may be required to attempt to exit the house or otherwise retreat (this is called the "Duty to retreat" and most self-defense statutes referred to as examples of "Castle Doctrine" expressly state that the homeowner has no such duty)
In all cases, the occupant(s) of the home must be there legally, must not be fugitives from the law, must not be using the Castle Doctrine to aid or abet another person in being a fugitive from the law, and must not use deadly force upon an officer of the law or an officer of the peace while they are performing or attempting to perform their legal duties.
Note: the term "home" is used because most states only apply their Castle Doctrine to a place of residence; however, some states extend the protection to other legally-occupied places such as automobiles and places of business.
Sec. 53a-20. Use of physical force in defense of premises. A person in possession or control of premises, or a person who is licensed or privileged to be in or upon such premises, is justified in using reasonable physical force upon another person when and to the extent that he reasonably believes such to be necessary to prevent or terminate the commission or attempted commission of a criminal trespass by such other person in or upon such premises; but he may use deadly physical force under such circumstances only (1) in defense of a person as prescribed in section 53a-19, or (2) when he reasonably believes such to be necessary to prevent an attempt by the trespasser to commit arson or any crime of violence, or (3) to the extent that he reasonably believes such to be necessary to prevent or terminate an unlawful entry by force into his dwelling as defined in section 53a-100, or place of work, and for the sole purpose of such prevention or termination.
National news said that he was well known by local law enforcement and had been in trouble before.you don't pay attention do ya? He threw a chair and a patio table through the window and entered the house. now he is dead and has no one to blame except himself.
I've seen all the talk on this thread that he was scum, a rapist and everyone seems glad he is dead. I was just wondering about the circumstances. Does he have a criminal record? Is he a sex offender? I have seen cases where people get so drunk they think someone elses home is theirs and they try to break in.
Just trying to get some facts. I don't mean to get in the way of your celebration that this guy got shot
That he eventually threw a lawn chair thru the doors window so he could gain access to the house.
I am also glad that he is dead. I hope it hurt.
If he was just a drunk with no criminal record, it would be justified to do what he did? Don't see where you're going with this. Should people run a criminal background check and offer a breathalyzer before they shoot? Even getting so shitfaced that you break into other peoples homes can sometimes get you dead. Graveyard dead.
Does anyone know of any states where it might be illegal to shoot someone dead in your own home or property?
Yes, there are. In states like California you have to prove that you made a reasonable effort to escape. She could be jailed in California.
Castle Doctrine states that I know of are
Texas
Florida and
now Oklahoma.
If he was just a drunk with no criminal record, it would be justified to do what he did? Don't see where you're going with this. Should people run a criminal background check and offer a breathalyzer before they shoot? Even getting so shitfaced that you break into other peoples homes can sometimes get you dead. Graveyard dead.
Does anyone know of any states where it might be illegal to shoot someone dead in your own home or property?
Yes, there are. In states like California you have to prove that you made a reasonable effort to escape. She could be jailed in California.
Castle Doctrine states that I know of are
Texas
Florida and
now Oklahoma.
Missouri too.