"I'll kill him graveyard dead"

[Harry Dresden]

Woman Shoots Intruder During 911 Call - The Early Show - CBS News

Oklahoma resident Donna Jackson faced a life or death situation when an intruder tried to break into her rural-area home last Friday.

Home alone, but armed with a shotgun, 57-year-old Jackson called 911 and begged for help, but police couldnt get there before the man was able to break through a glass door with a chair and patio table.

Jackson, who stayed on the phone with the 911 dispatcher, can be heard in the call saying, "I don't want to have to kill this man, but I'll kill him graveyard dead, ma'am."

When the intruder broke through the door, Jackson dropped the phone. A minute later, Jackson was forced to shoot, and the suspect, Billy Riley, 53, was killed. According to the local district attorney's office, Jackson won't be charged with a crime. During the call, the 911 operator told Jackson it was legal for her to defend her home.

I suppose you anti gun freaks would rather she got raped and killed by this intruder.

Gee, what were the odds that this woman would be threatened in her own home?

One in a billion? Looks like she hit the lottery, good thing she had that shotgun.

I suppose some want to take your gun away, but they're the few not the many; and, there is no serious threat to the second amendment RIGHT, but in the mind of the paranoid and/or the propagandists. This thread maybe an example of someone who is a member of both populations.
The problem with gun nuts - no, not the ones suggested by the OP - those who believe any restriction on firearms is cause for alarm, is they lack common sense. The only difference between a gun and a car - in terms of danger - is that the former is constitutionally protected.
Laws require those who drive a car to be licensed, insured and to operate the vehicle in a safe manner within specific parameters (on roadways designed for car traffic).
All of which make sense in terms of the general welfare. Yet, suggest to the OP or the NRA that a person be required to obtain a license, and that license be renewed annually before they may legally own, possess or have in their custody or control a firearm, and watch how they react. Or that firearms may not be carried - openly and concealed - in any public place; or that a limit on the amount or type of ammunition be imposed if and when a jurisdiction allows for open carry.
The right of our people to defend their homes is not the question, the stability, character and responsibility of the gun owner is the issue.

do a little research before you open your yap WRY....the main reason for being against gun registration is because then they now know who exactly owns them...and if you think no regime in this country would try to confiscate them.....i ask you why would you think that?.....look what happened in Australia....they knew who had them and how many....according to a Aussie former gun owner who posts on another board...they came right to his house and told him,we can do this the easy way or the hard way.....and they knew exactly how many and what type he owned....

 

[Samson]

There was nothing good about what this woman did. She killed a man and will live with this for the rest of her life. She didnt want to kill him and begged God for forgivness. She had to anyway.

Yes it was good that she saved herself but no, killing a man, a human being, isnt good. Some of you have serious partisan issues.

Im a democrat that supports guns, imagine that. Im glad she protected herself but its too bad she had to do what she did.

I agree.

She should have gone for the crotch shot.

 

[rightwinger]

Did they ever report about the guy she shot?

Was he trying to break in or was he some drunk pounding on the wrong door?

 

[hjmick]

Did they ever report about the guy she shot?

Was he trying to break in or was he some drunk pounding on the wrong door?

The most I have heard is that he had wrecked his truck down the road from this woman's house, this is where they found the man's sister, drunk and passed out. I think they may have said she was on drugs as well. If I'm not mistaken, the dead guy was drunk as well. It sounds like he walked to the nearest house and started forcing his way in.

 

[WillowTree]

Did they ever report about the guy she shot?

Was he trying to break in or was he some drunk pounding on the wrong door?

you don't pay attention do ya? He threw a chair and a patio table through the window and entered the house. now he is dead and has no one to blame except himself.

 

[rightwinger]

Did they ever report about the guy she shot?

Was he trying to break in or was he some drunk pounding on the wrong door?

you don't pay attention do ya? He threw a chair and a patio table through the window and entered the house. now he is dead and has no one to blame except himself.

I've seen all the talk on this thread that he was scum, a rapist and everyone seems glad he is dead. I was just wondering about the circumstances. Does he have a criminal record? Is he a sex offender? I have seen cases where people get so drunk they think someone elses home is theirs and they try to break in.

Just trying to get some facts. I don't mean to get in the way of your celebration that this guy got shot

 

[WillowTree]

Did they ever report about the guy she shot?

Was he trying to break in or was he some drunk pounding on the wrong door?

you don't pay attention do ya? He threw a chair and a patio table through the window and entered the house. now he is dead and has no one to blame except himself.

I've seen all the talk on this thread that he was scum, a rapist and everyone seems glad he is dead. I was just wondering about the circumstances. Does he have a criminal record? Is he a sex offender? I have seen cases where people get so drunk they think someone elses home is theirs and they try to break in.

Just trying to get some facts. I don't mean to get in the way of your celebration that this guy got shot

what was she supposed to do? Get an affadavit before she shot him? And you can't show me where I celebrated his death either. I said, "He is dead and he has no one to blame except himself."

 

[rightwinger]

you don't pay attention do ya? He threw a chair and a patio table through the window and entered the house. now he is dead and has no one to blame except himself.

I've seen all the talk on this thread that he was scum, a rapist and everyone seems glad he is dead. I was just wondering about the circumstances. Does he have a criminal record? Is he a sex offender? I have seen cases where people get so drunk they think someone elses home is theirs and they try to break in.

Just trying to get some facts. I don't mean to get in the way of your celebration that this guy got shot

what was she supposed to do? Get an affadavit before she shot him? And you can't show me where I celebrated his death either. I said, "He is dead and he has no one to blame except himself."

I think she was justified to protect herself. I'm just not ready to say I'm glad he is dead until I know more about the circumstances as to why he was pounding on the door.
It just sounded strange that an intruder would be pounding on the door. Sounds like something a drunk would do who didn't know where he was

 

[WillowTree]

I've seen all the talk on this thread that he was scum, a rapist and everyone seems glad he is dead. I was just wondering about the circumstances. Does he have a criminal record? Is he a sex offender? I have seen cases where people get so drunk they think someone elses home is theirs and they try to break in.

Just trying to get some facts. I don't mean to get in the way of your celebration that this guy got shot

what was she supposed to do? Get an affadavit before she shot him? And you can't show me where I celebrated his death either. I said, "He is dead and he has no one to blame except himself."

I think she was justified to protect herself. I'm just not ready to say I'm glad he is dead until I know more about the circumstances as to why he was pounding on the door.
It just sounded strange that an intruder would be pounding on the door. Sounds like something a drunk would do who didn't know where he was

I didn't say I was glad he was dead either, I'm certainly glad she isn't dead.

 

[rightwinger]

what was she supposed to do? Get an affadavit before she shot him? And you can't show me where I celebrated his death either. I said, "He is dead and he has no one to blame except himself."

I think she was justified to protect herself. I'm just not ready to say I'm glad he is dead until I know more about the circumstances as to why he was pounding on the door.
It just sounded strange that an intruder would be pounding on the door. Sounds like something a drunk would do who didn't know where he was

I didn't say I was glad he was dead either, I'm certainly glad she isn't dead.

So am I. I really understood what the poor woman went through and know she didn't fire without a great deal of anguish. It seems like it is easy to shoot an intruder but she was truly regretting that she had to do it.

I was just wondering about the guy she shot. Its easy to just write him off. But sometimes these things are a double tragedy. It seems he was drunk out of his skull. You just don't know if he was trying to harm or just confused

 

[hjmick]

Did they ever report about the guy she shot?

Was he trying to break in or was he some drunk pounding on the wrong door?

you don't pay attention do ya? He threw a chair and a patio table through the window and entered the house. now he is dead and has no one to blame except himself.

I've seen all the talk on this thread that he was scum, a rapist and everyone seems glad he is dead. I was just wondering about the circumstances. Does he have a criminal record? Is he a sex offender? I have seen cases where people get so drunk they think someone elses home is theirs and they try to break in.

Just trying to get some facts. I don't mean to get in the way of your celebration that this guy got shot

According to this story, he had "several convictions of driving under the influence of alcohol as well as a possession of marijuana conviction."

According to the sheriff, "His motivations are unclear from this investigation,” Mangion said. "He went over a fence with a locked gate and he had to fight off a dog once he got in the yard, so I doubt he was looking for help,” Mangion said. "I doubt that (getting help) was his motivation.”

Another story I read says that Riley, the dead guy, was yelling and threatening Jackson, not to mention that whole table through the window thing.

 

[chanel]

If he was just a drunk with no criminal record, it would be justified to do what he did? Don't see where you're going with this. Should people run a criminal background check and offer a breathalyzer before they shoot? Even getting so shitfaced that you break into other peoples homes can sometimes get you dead. Graveyard dead.

Does anyone know of any states where it might be illegal to shoot someone dead in your own home or property?

 

[rightwinger]

If he was just a drunk with no criminal record, it would be justified to do what he did? Don't see where you're going with this. Should people run a criminal background check and offer a breathalyzer before they shoot? Even getting so shitfaced that you break into other peoples homes can sometimes get you dead. Graveyard dead.

Does anyone know of any states where it might be illegal to shoot someone dead in your own home or property?

I'm not questioning the right of the poor woman to shoot the guy. She did not know if he was a serial killer or a lost motorist. Once he broke in, she had no choice. I am merely reacting to the posts on this thread seemingly celebrating the guys death and calling him scum.
I just wanted to know if anyone had any information on the guy that was killed

 

[Dr Grump]

I don't think you'll find many people that oppose a person's right to have a shotgun in their house and use it in an act of self defense.

I do, but then again, I'm from a different country with different culture...

 

[hjmick]

I'm just providing information. I like to be helpful...










Sometimes.

 

[WillowTree]

If he was just a drunk with no criminal record, it would be justified to do what he did? Don't see where you're going with this. Should people run a criminal background check and offer a breathalyzer before they shoot? Even getting so shitfaced that you break into other peoples homes can sometimes get you dead. Graveyard dead.

Does anyone know of any states where it might be illegal to shoot someone dead in your own home or property?

Yes, there are. In states like California you have to prove that you made a reasonable effort to escape. She could be jailed in California.


Castle Doctrine states that I know of are

Texas
Florida and
now Oklahoma.

 

[Dr Grump]

If he was just a drunk with no criminal record, it would be justified to do what he did? Don't see where you're going with this. Should people run a criminal background check and offer a breathalyzer before they shoot? Even getting so shitfaced that you break into other peoples homes can sometimes get you dead. Graveyard dead.

Does anyone know of any states where it might be illegal to shoot someone dead in your own home or property?

I'm not questioning the right of the poor woman to shoot the guy. She did not know if he was a serial killer or a lost motorist. Once he broke in, she had no choice. I am merely reacting to the posts on this thread seemingly celebrating the guys death and calling him scum.
I just wanted to know if anyone had any information on the guy that was killed

You make an interesting point. A guy down here got charged for shooting at a couple of dudes who stole his farm bike. He shot in their general direction and hit one in the arse (didn't kill him)..While they were waiting for the cops, the guy who got shot goes "you didn't have to shoot me bro". So it is interesting about whether you have that right to shoot if somebody is retreating. That said, this type of incident is over in seconds/minutes, yet law enforcement and lawyers will spend days/weeks dissecting every second..

 

[Chris]

Woman Shoots Intruder During 911 Call - The Early Show - CBS News

Oklahoma resident Donna Jackson faced a life or death situation when an intruder tried to break into her rural-area home last Friday.

Home alone, but armed with a shotgun, 57-year-old Jackson called 911 and begged for help, but police couldnt get there before the man was able to break through a glass door with a chair and patio table.

Jackson, who stayed on the phone with the 911 dispatcher, can be heard in the call saying, "I don't want to have to kill this man, but I'll kill him graveyard dead, ma'am."

When the intruder broke through the door, Jackson dropped the phone. A minute later, Jackson was forced to shoot, and the suspect, Billy Riley, 53, was killed. According to the local district attorney's office, Jackson won't be charged with a crime. During the call, the 911 operator told Jackson it was legal for her to defend her home.

I suppose you anti gun freaks would rather she got raped and killed by this intruder.

Gee, what were the odds that this woman would be threatened in her own home?

One in a billion? Looks like she hit the lottery, good thing she had that shotgun.

Only women should be allowed to carry guns.

 

[Samson]

Yes, there are. In states like California you have to prove that you made a reasonable effort to escape. She could be jailed in California.

It would be So Cool if a Lady in California ran over Some Nutcase because she was trying to "make a reasonable effort to escape."

 

[AllieBaba]

Didn't we already have a thread on this?

sorry didn't see it

Yep. My hunch is that the 57 year old woman with the shotgun was Strollingbones.

Not again! What does that make, 3 or 4 she's taken out?

And that's not counting the ones she has buried in the backyard.