IG Report Thread

[Billy_Bob]

"Midyear team members told us that they based this assessment on a lack of evidence showing intent to place classified information on the server, or knowledge that the information was classified."

Intent is not a precursor to violating the espionage act... this thing just gets worse and worse... one fallacy assessment after another.

 

[Billy_Bob]

In undertaking our analysis, our task was made significantly more difficult because of text and instant messages exchanged on FBI devices and systems by five FBI employees involved in the Mid year investigation. These messages reflected political opinions in support of former Secretary Clinton and against her then political opponent, Donald Trump.Some of these text messages and instant messages mixed political commentary with discussions about the Mid year investigation, and raised concerns that political bias may have impacted investigative decisions.In particular, we were concerned about text messages exchanged by FBI Deputy Assistant Director Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, Special Counsel to the Deputy Director, that potentially indicated or created the appearance that investigative decisions were impacted by bias or improper considerations. As we describe in Chapter Twelve of our report, most of the text messages raising such questions pertained to the Russia investigation, which was not a part of this review. Nonetheless, the suggestion in certain Russia-related text messages in August 2016 that Strzok might be willing to take official action to impact presidential candidate Trump’s electoral prospects caused us to question the earlier Midyear investigative decisions in which Strzok was involved, and whether he took specificactions in the Midyear investigation based on his political views. As we describe Chapter Five of our report, we found that Strzok was not the sole decision maker for any of the specific Midyear investigative decisions we examined in that chapter.We further found evidence that in some instances Strzok and Page advocated for more aggressive investigative measures in the Midyear investigation."

Political Bias drove not only the Hillary exoneration but the Trump aggressiveness in investigation.... Damn....

Nice try.

The report states the opposite of the conclusion you've drawn - in plain English.

So when are you going to admit that you're a liar?

Proof of the crime and some how its not.... priceless...

 

[theDoctorisIn]

"Midyear team members told us that they based this assessment on a lack of evidence showing intent to place classified information on the server, or knowledge that the information was classified."

Intent is not a precursor to violating the espionage act... this thing just gets worse and worse... one fallacy assessment after another.

You should read closer.

We further found that the statute that required the most complex analysis by the prosecutors was Section793(f)(1), the “gross negligence” provision that has been the focus of much of the criticism of the declination decision. As we describe in Chapters Two and Seven of our report, the prosecutors analyzed the legislative history of Section 793(f)(1), relevant caselaw, and the Department’s prior interpretation of the statute. They concluded that Section 793(f)(1) likely required a state of mind that was “so gross as to almost suggest deliberate intention,” criminally reckless, or “something that falls just short of being willful,” as well as evidence that the individuals who sent emails containing classified information “knowingly” included or transferred such information onto unclassified systems.The Midyear team concluded that such proof was lacking. We found that this interpretation of Section793(f)(1) was consistent with the Department’s historical approach in prior cases under different leadership, including in the 2008 decision not to prosecute former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales for mishandling classified documents

 

[theDoctorisIn]

In undertaking our analysis, our task was made significantly more difficult because of text and instant messages exchanged on FBI devices and systems by five FBI employees involved in the Mid year investigation. These messages reflected political opinions in support of former Secretary Clinton and against her then political opponent, Donald Trump.Some of these text messages and instant messages mixed political commentary with discussions about the Mid year investigation, and raised concerns that political bias may have impacted investigative decisions.In particular, we were concerned about text messages exchanged by FBI Deputy Assistant Director Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, Special Counsel to the Deputy Director, that potentially indicated or created the appearance that investigative decisions were impacted by bias or improper considerations. As we describe in Chapter Twelve of our report, most of the text messages raising such questions pertained to the Russia investigation, which was not a part of this review. Nonetheless, the suggestion in certain Russia-related text messages in August 2016 that Strzok might be willing to take official action to impact presidential candidate Trump’s electoral prospects caused us to question the earlier Midyear investigative decisions in which Strzok was involved, and whether he took specificactions in the Midyear investigation based on his political views. As we describe Chapter Five of our report, we found that Strzok was not the sole decision maker for any of the specific Midyear investigative decisions we examined in that chapter.We further found evidence that in some instances Strzok and Page advocated for more aggressive investigative measures in the Midyear investigation."

Political Bias drove not only the Hillary exoneration but the Trump aggressiveness in investigation.... Damn....

Nice try.

The report states the opposite of the conclusion you've drawn - in plain English.

So when are you going to admit that you're a liar?

Proof of the crime and some how its not.... priceless...

"Proof" of what crime, exactly?

 

[Mac1958]

I'm giving serious consideration to listening to Hannity today.

No doubt this is the biggest thing to ever happen in the history of historical histories.

 

[Billy_Bob]

"A paragraph summarizing the factors that led,the FBI to assess that it was possible that hostile actors accessed Clinton’s server was added, and at one point referenced Clinton’s use of her private email for an exchange with then President Obama while in the territory of a foreign adversary. This reference later was changed to “another senior government official,” and ultimately was omitted"

Even Obama was caught using the servers....

 

[Rambunctious]

I'm surprised at the responses so far. You guys have been crowing about the IG report for almost a year now, and now you're all so quiet.

We are getting the info dummy!

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I'm surprised at the responses so far. You guys have been crowing about the IG report for almost a year now, and now you're all so quiet.

We are getting the info dummy!

The report has been out for an hour now.

Any thoughts?

 

[Rambunctious]

Shep is trying to poke holes in the IG report but Catherine Herridge is setting his snowflake ass straight....she is awesome.....

 

[buckeye45_73]

They will divert to something else...............maybe find another porn star or hooker.............who knows.......

nope a lawsuit....right on schedule

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Shep is trying to poke holes in the IG report but Catherine Herridge is setting his snowflake ass straight....she is awesome.....

What are you talking about?

Did you read the report? There's an executive summary, it's only about 15 pages long.

 

[dudmuck]

In undertaking our analysis, our task was made significantly more difficult because of text and instant messages exchanged on FBI devices and systems by five FBI employees involved in the Mid year investigation. These messages reflected political opinions in support of former Secretary Clinton and against her then political opponent, Donald Trump.Some of these text messages and instant messages mixed political commentary with discussions about the Mid year investigation, and raised concerns that political bias may have impacted investigative decisions.In particular, we were concerned about text messages exchanged by FBI Deputy Assistant Director Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, Special Counsel to the Deputy Director, that potentially indicated or created the appearance that investigative decisions were impacted by bias or improper considerations. As we describe in Chapter Twelve of our report, most of the text messages raising such questions pertained to the Russia investigation, which was not a part of this review. Nonetheless, the suggestion in certain Russia-related text messages in August 2016 that Strzok might be willing to take official action to impact presidential candidate Trump’s electoral prospects caused us to question the earlier Midyear investigative decisions in which Strzok was involved, and whether he took specificactions in the Midyear investigation based on his political views. As we describe Chapter Five of our report, we found that Strzok was not the sole decision maker for any of the specific Midyear investigative decisions we examined in that chapter.We further found evidence that in some instances Strzok and Page advocated for more aggressive investigative measures in the Midyear investigation."

Political Bias drove not only the Hillary exoneration but the Trump aggressiveness in investigation.... Damn....

Even fox news says the horowitz report says no bias.
no proof FBI’s Clinton probe tainted by bias

finally you got that nothing burger.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Shep is trying to poke holes in the IG report but Catherine Herridge is setting his snowflake ass straight....she is awesome.....

What are you talking about?

Did you read the report? There's an executive summary, it's only about 15 pages long.

That's like reading headlines......

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Shep is trying to poke holes in the IG report but Catherine Herridge is setting his snowflake ass straight....she is awesome.....

What are you talking about?

Did you read the report? There's an executive summary, it's only about 15 pages long.

That's like reading headlines......

You're welcome to read all 568 pages, if you'd prefer.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The far right acts insane yet again.

 

[Rambunctious]

In undertaking our analysis, our task was made significantly more difficult because of text and instant messages exchanged on FBI devices and systems by five FBI employees involved in the Mid year investigation. These messages reflected political opinions in support of former Secretary Clinton and against her then political opponent, Donald Trump.Some of these text messages and instant messages mixed political commentary with discussions about the Mid year investigation, and raised concerns that political bias may have impacted investigative decisions.In particular, we were concerned about text messages exchanged by FBI Deputy Assistant Director Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, Special Counsel to the Deputy Director, that potentially indicated or created the appearance that investigative decisions were impacted by bias or improper considerations. As we describe in Chapter Twelve of our report, most of the text messages raising such questions pertained to the Russia investigation, which was not a part of this review. Nonetheless, the suggestion in certain Russia-related text messages in August 2016 that Strzok might be willing to take official action to impact presidential candidate Trump’s electoral prospects caused us to question the earlier Midyear investigative decisions in which Strzok was involved, and whether he took specificactions in the Midyear investigation based on his political views. As we describe Chapter Five of our report, we found that Strzok was not the sole decision maker for any of the specific Midyear investigative decisions we examined in that chapter.We further found evidence that in some instances Strzok and Page advocated for more aggressive investigative measures in the Midyear investigation."

Political Bias drove not only the Hillary exoneration but the Trump aggressiveness in investigation.... Damn....

Even fox news says the horowitz report says no bias.
no proof FBI’s Clinton probe tainted by bias

finally you got that nothing burger.

Its not a nothing burger...wait for Wray to speak and you will see its not a nothing burger...people will be fired and possibly prosecuted... Definitely we will see bad people like Comey exposed...

 

[Marion Morrison]

Well, the report's out:

2016 Election Final Report 06-14-18 0 | Federal Bureau Of Investigation | United States Government

Should I give you guys some time to hear from Hannity and Rush, and learn what your talking points are going to be?

That's largely behind a paywall, any other links?

 

[Siete]

Shep is trying to poke holes in the IG report but Catherine Herridge is setting his snowflake ass straight....she is awesome.....

What are you talking about?

Did you read the report? There's an executive summary, it's only about 15 pages long.

That's like reading headlines......

You're welcome to read all 568 pages, if you'd prefer.

these idiots havent read a total of 568 pages in their entire life - then theres the problem of retaining what they read

.0001%

 

[Rambunctious]

You're welcome to read all 568 pages, if you'd prefer

I will wait for the unredacted version that congress has asked for today....

 

[OldLady]

Did I miss something by reading the Conclusion/Recommendations? It seems to be all recommendations for the FBI to tighten up its texting protocols and not allowing for another Comey Moment of going around the AG to announce findings and decisions on prosecution.

I didn't see any suggestions for anything other than FBI policies.

Did I miss something?