If the Dem, whoever it is, wins in Nov. he will be faced with a monumental task

[bigrebnc1775]

Because everything Capt. Chaos has done needs to be undone.

First, the US needs to re-engage with the rest of the world in fighting climate change. Every other issue pales in comparison to this one in importance since the survival of the planet hinges on how aggressively we take on the problem.

It's going to be very difficult to put the tax cut genie back in the bottle but taxes will have to be raised. The increase in the deficit (which is the one thing supporting this economy) is unsustainable. It may take some time as a recession is inevitable. Typically that's when tax cuts are enacted and stimulative interest rate cuts are made. These measures have already taken place to keep Baby Donald's fragile economy afloat. So the government will be severely hamstrung when the recession comes.

Civility and integrity must be restored to the office of the POTUS. Pathological lying must end, indifference to policy details must end, the end of pep rallies, the end of boorish tweets, the end of thin skinned attacks on any critic, the end of the degradation of foundational institutions, the end of nepotism, the end of profiteering from holding the office, the end of purging civil servants based on loyalty tests...........it all has to stop.

The endless sabotage of the ACA must cease. The original goal of democratizing the cost of health insurance by expanding the pool of those insured is fundamentally sound. Beyond that, medical cost inflation must be brought under control. The free market has failed miserably in that endeavor and so by necessity government controls need to be instituted as they are, successfully, in the rest of the industrialized world.

We must repair international relations. Enemies like China and Russia are most effectively taken on by building coalitions with like minded countries. Not by putting "America first." Idiotic, jingoistic slogans like "globalists" need to give way to realization alliances make us stronger, not weaker.

Gun violence is arguably the top public safety issue after climate change. There are no perfect solutions to eliminating gun violence but measures must be taken to do what we can to reduce it based on empirical data. To that end, a national commission should be organized to study the problem and make recommendations to be considered.

Immigration reform along the lines of the bipartisan bill passed by the Senate in 2013 (and killed by the coward known as John Boehner in the House) needs to be enacted. A Guide to S.744: Understanding the 2013 Senate Immigration Bill

Obviously, this is just a partial list. The damage to the country brought on by the reign of corruption and incompetence by the ignorant fool known as President Shithole and his enablers is extensive and can not be reversed over night. Naturally, efforts at repair will be fought be the remnants of the cult of Trumpery. The Following's blind devotion to the fact free construct Don and right wing media has created will not be easy to extinguish since the media cohort spewing lies and distortions of the truth will remain even after the Orange Fraud is gone off the stage. But they must be marginalized. Reduced to the whining bar stool cranks and bigots that they are. Hopefully, the GOP will make a comeback as the principled conservatives they once were. Before the rise of extremism, fueled by Faux and right wing talk radio, radicalized the party in to an angry mob intolerant of anyone not like them.

Another total bullshit thread that should be moved to the conspiracy theory board.

 

[Crepitus]

Well you asked how it would affect people.

By making a baker bake?

Oh the humanity!!!

I guess you have a problem with the 13th Amendment which prohibits Slavery. Normatives are not the slaves of the Homos.

How does opening a business to the public constitute slavery? Why do you want to make those non-Normatives (lol) second class citizens?

I think it's funny that the same people who scream baking a cake is slavery, scream about other private businesses doing the same thing with conservative lies and conspiracies on social media.

Apparently it's ok to discriminate some people but it's never ok to do the same to conservatives.

Their beliefs bend with the wind to the extreme right.

examples?

most of the cases involving conservatives are actual PUBLIC ACCOMODATIONS, like restaurants and such, and involve non political activity like just sitting down to dinner.

Just because you don't eat yer ham in the sho doesn't mean your butcher isn't a public accommodation.

 

[martybegan]

I guess you have a problem with the 13th Amendment which prohibits Slavery. Normatives are not the slaves of the Homos.

Wow, dude. How do you stretch the Constitution like that without breaking it it?

Kind of like how your side ignores the 1st and 2nd when it suits them.

Yeah? When is that?

Saying selling something means you lose your right to free exercise.
Basically every gun control proposal coming from progressive losers like yourself.

Free practice doesn't mean what you thinking means.

Nobody is preventing you from practicing whatever you want, younjus can't use it as an excuse to discriminate.

Free exercise, not free practice.

Where in the constitution does it say discrimination automatically doesn't count as free exercise?

Catholic Churches deny communion to anyone not Catholic or Orthodox. Isn't that discrimination?

 

[martybegan]

By making a baker bake?

Oh the humanity!!!

I guess you have a problem with the 13th Amendment which prohibits Slavery. Normatives are not the slaves of the Homos.

How does opening a business to the public constitute slavery? Why do you want to make those non-Normatives (lol) second class citizens?

I think it's funny that the same people who scream baking a cake is slavery, scream about other private businesses doing the same thing with conservative lies and conspiracies on social media.

Apparently it's ok to discriminate some people but it's never ok to do the same to conservatives.

Their beliefs bend with the wind to the extreme right.

examples?

most of the cases involving conservatives are actual PUBLIC ACCOMODATIONS, like restaurants and such, and involve non political activity like just sitting down to dinner.

Just because you don't eat yer ham in the sho doesn't mean your butcher isn't a public accommodation.

For point of sale services where you walk into the establishment, it is a PA. However you can't go to a jewish butcher and demand they provide you with a country ham just because they also sell other meat.

You see SSM and traditional marriage as the same, Many Christians do not. Just like to some people "edible meat is edible meat" yet to Jews and Muslims pork isn't edible meat at all, as beef isn't to Hindus.

 

[Polishprince]

Wow, dude. How do you stretch the Constitution like that without breaking it it?

Kind of like how your side ignores the 1st and 2nd when it suits them.

Yeah? When is that?

Saying selling something means you lose your right to free exercise.
Basically every gun control proposal coming from progressive losers like yourself.

Free practice doesn't mean what you thinking means.

Nobody is preventing you from practicing whatever you want, younjus can't use it as an excuse to discriminate.

Free exercise, not free practice.

Where in the constitution does it say discrimination automatically doesn't count as free exercise?

Catholic Churches deny communion to anyone not Catholic or Orthodox. Isn't that discrimination?

The other thing that libs fail to realize its free exercise of RELIGION, not "worship". Libs often use the mantra of "Free Worship" to make it seem as if the Constitution's 1st Amendment right stops at the church door.

Not true at all, people have a right to practice their faith, including the prohibition against Homosexual Marriage.

I can appreciate the idea that libs think that Almighty God put Adam and Steve into the garden, not Eve. But others have a different view and they just need to respect it. BTW, on the same point, if a Normative couple asked a Homo Baker to make a pro-Family cake celebrating Normal Marriage, they could refuse as well.

 

[007]

Just to take a reality break...
1. The senate will likely stay GOP based on the fact that Doug Jones is toast in AL, and the 4 toss-ups all won't go democrat.
2. The House will likely swing back to the GOP because the 31 seats the dems won in 2018 in Trump districts will most likely swing back to the GOP since Trump has a 95% approval rating among Republicans
3. So even if Joe ekes out a presidential win he won't be able to do much damage.
More likely Trump will win re-election, just based on Joe being so old and obviously has dementia.

Couldn't have stated it any better myself, you're spot on.

 

[Polishprince]

Just to take a reality break...
1. The senate will likely stay GOP based on the fact that Doug Jones is toast in AL, and the 4 toss-ups all won't go democrat.
2. The House will likely swing back to the GOP because the 31 seats the dems won in 2018 in Trump districts will most likely swing back to the GOP since Trump has a 95% approval rating among Republicans
3. So even if Joe ekes out a presidential win he won't be able to do much damage.
More likely Trump will win re-election, just based on Joe being so old and obviously has dementia.

Couldn't have stated it any better myself, you're spot on.

If Biden were to be elected, the first business at hand will be the 25th Amendment. If a president is mentally deficient, the 25th is the means we use to dispose of him.

 

[candycorn]

Because everything Capt. Chaos has done needs to be undone.

First, the US needs to re-engage with the rest of the world in fighting climate change. Every other issue pales in comparison to this one in importance since the survival of the planet hinges on how aggressively we take on the problem.

It's going to be very difficult to put the tax cut genie back in the bottle but taxes will have to be raised. The increase in the deficit (which is the one thing supporting this economy) is unsustainable. It may take some time as a recession is inevitable. Typically that's when tax cuts are enacted and stimulative interest rate cuts are made. These measures have already taken place to keep Baby Donald's fragile economy afloat. So the government will be severely hamstrung when the recession comes.

Civility and integrity must be restored to the office of the POTUS. Pathological lying must end, indifference to policy details must end, the end of pep rallies, the end of boorish tweets, the end of thin skinned attacks on any critic, the end of the degradation of foundational institutions, the end of nepotism, the end of profiteering from holding the office, the end of purging civil servants based on loyalty tests...........it all has to stop.

The endless sabotage of the ACA must cease. The original goal of democratizing the cost of health insurance by expanding the pool of those insured is fundamentally sound. Beyond that, medical cost inflation must be brought under control. The free market has failed miserably in that endeavor and so by necessity government controls need to be instituted as they are, successfully, in the rest of the industrialized world.

We must repair international relations. Enemies like China and Russia are most effectively taken on by building coalitions with like minded countries. Not by putting "America first." Idiotic, jingoistic slogans like "globalists" need to give way to realization alliances make us stronger, not weaker.

Gun violence is arguably the top public safety issue after climate change. There are no perfect solutions to eliminating gun violence but measures must be taken to do what we can to reduce it based on empirical data. To that end, a national commission should be organized to study the problem and make recommendations to be considered.

Immigration reform along the lines of the bipartisan bill passed by the Senate in 2013 (and killed by the coward known as John Boehner in the House) needs to be enacted. A Guide to S.744: Understanding the 2013 Senate Immigration Bill

Obviously, this is just a partial list. The damage to the country brought on by the reign of corruption and incompetence by the ignorant fool known as President Shithole and his enablers is extensive and can not be reversed over night. Naturally, efforts at repair will be fought be the remnants of the cult of Trumpery. The Following's blind devotion to the fact free construct Don and right wing media has created will not be easy to extinguish since the media cohort spewing lies and distortions of the truth will remain even after the Orange Fraud is gone off the stage. But they must be marginalized. Reduced to the whining bar stool cranks and bigots that they are. Hopefully, the GOP will make a comeback as the principled conservatives they once were. Before the rise of extremism, fueled by Faux and right wing talk radio, radicalized the party in to an angry mob intolerant of anyone not like them.

The next president, regardless of party, will have a major job rebuilding the state dept.

 

[007]

Just to take a reality break...
1. The senate will likely stay GOP based on the fact that Doug Jones is toast in AL, and the 4 toss-ups all won't go democrat.
2. The House will likely swing back to the GOP because the 31 seats the dems won in 2018 in Trump districts will most likely swing back to the GOP since Trump has a 95% approval rating among Republicans
3. So even if Joe ekes out a presidential win he won't be able to do much damage.
More likely Trump will win re-election, just based on Joe being so old and obviously has dementia.

Couldn't have stated it any better myself, you're spot on.

If Biden were to be elected, the first business at hand will be the 25th Amendment. If a president is mentally deficient, the 25th is the means we use to dispose of him.

If people think creepy uncle Joe's gaffes are bad now, wait until the spot light is on him alone following him around 24/7. The man can't finish one coherent sentence. I don't think there's any chance in hell he'll get elected.

One, he's a senile 78 year old gaffe machine
Two, the extreme Bernie Chavez supporters won't vote for him
Three, there's still the Barr/Durham criminal investigation to break, and it will include Burisma findings.

 

[Polishprince]

Three, there's still the Barr/Durham criminal investigation to break, and it will include Burisma findings.

That's the one factor that is puzzling to me. Why Bite Me in 2020? Of course, he's senile but a lot of libs are part of that demographic so that isn't a negative.

But the fact that his entire family is the most crooked in all of politics, and the veil is being ripped down, I don't understand why Sleepy Joe ran in the first place,much less decide to steal the nomination from Crazy Bernie

 

[007]

Three, there's still the Barr/Durham criminal investigation to break, and it will include Burisma findings.

That's the one factor that is puzzling to me. Why Bite Me in 2020? Of course, he's senile but a lot of libs are part of that demographic so that isn't a negative.

But the fact that his entire family is the most crooked in all of politics, and the veil is being ripped down, I don't understand why Sleepy Joe ran in the first place,much less decide to steal the nomination from Crazy Bernie

I would imagine he ran because of the urging of other democrats because they don't want commie Bernie, and they know damn well there wasn't a single one of the other clowns that had any chance of beating Trump, so, on to Biden to see if there's any magic left from the muslim negro.

But... too bad for creepy hair sniffer uncle Joe, his former kenyan boss is endorsing Bernie Chavez.

 

[kyzr]

Because everything Capt. Chaos has done needs to be undone.

First, the US needs to re-engage with the rest of the world in fighting climate change. Every other issue pales in comparison to this one in importance since the survival of the planet hinges on how aggressively we take on the problem.

It's going to be very difficult to put the tax cut genie back in the bottle but taxes will have to be raised. The increase in the deficit (which is the one thing supporting this economy) is unsustainable. It may take some time as a recession is inevitable. Typically that's when tax cuts are enacted and stimulative interest rate cuts are made. These measures have already taken place to keep Baby Donald's fragile economy afloat. So the government will be severely hamstrung when the recession comes.

Civility and integrity must be restored to the office of the POTUS. Pathological lying must end, indifference to policy details must end, the end of pep rallies, the end of boorish tweets, the end of thin skinned attacks on any critic, the end of the degradation of foundational institutions, the end of nepotism, the end of profiteering from holding the office, the end of purging civil servants based on loyalty tests...........it all has to stop.

The endless sabotage of the ACA must cease. The original goal of democratizing the cost of health insurance by expanding the pool of those insured is fundamentally sound. Beyond that, medical cost inflation must be brought under control. The free market has failed miserably in that endeavor and so by necessity government controls need to be instituted as they are, successfully, in the rest of the industrialized world.

We must repair international relations. Enemies like China and Russia are most effectively taken on by building coalitions with like minded countries. Not by putting "America first." Idiotic, jingoistic slogans like "globalists" need to give way to realization alliances make us stronger, not weaker.

Gun violence is arguably the top public safety issue after climate change. There are no perfect solutions to eliminating gun violence but measures must be taken to do what we can to reduce it based on empirical data. To that end, a national commission should be organized to study the problem and make recommendations to be considered.

Immigration reform along the lines of the bipartisan bill passed by the Senate in 2013 (and killed by the coward known as John Boehner in the House) needs to be enacted. A Guide to S.744: Understanding the 2013 Senate Immigration Bill

Obviously, this is just a partial list. The damage to the country brought on by the reign of corruption and incompetence by the ignorant fool known as President Shithole and his enablers is extensive and can not be reversed over night. Naturally, efforts at repair will be fought be the remnants of the cult of Trumpery. The Following's blind devotion to the fact free construct Don and right wing media has created will not be easy to extinguish since the media cohort spewing lies and distortions of the truth will remain even after the Orange Fraud is gone off the stage. But they must be marginalized. Reduced to the whining bar stool cranks and bigots that they are. Hopefully, the GOP will make a comeback as the principled conservatives they once were. Before the rise of extremism, fueled by Faux and right wing talk radio, radicalized the party in to an angry mob intolerant of anyone not like them.

The next president, regardless of party, will have a major job rebuilding the state dept.

Why? What's wrong with State? Pompeo is as capable as anyone in government.

 

[mudwhistle]

Because everything Capt. Chaos has done needs to be undone.

First, the US needs to re-engage with the rest of the world in fighting climate change. Every other issue pales in comparison to this one in importance since the survival of the planet hinges on how aggressively we take on the problem.

It's going to be very difficult to put the tax cut genie back in the bottle but taxes will have to be raised. The increase in the deficit (which is the one thing supporting this economy) is unsustainable. It may take some time as a recession is inevitable. Typically that's when tax cuts are enacted and stimulative interest rate cuts are made. These measures have already taken place to keep Baby Donald's fragile economy afloat. So the government will be severely hamstrung when the recession comes.

Civility and integrity must be restored to the office of the POTUS. Pathological lying must end, indifference to policy details must end, the end of pep rallies, the end of boorish tweets, the end of thin skinned attacks on any critic, the end of the degradation of foundational institutions, the end of nepotism, the end of profiteering from holding the office, the end of purging civil servants based on loyalty tests...........it all has to stop.

The endless sabotage of the ACA must cease. The original goal of democratizing the cost of health insurance by expanding the pool of those insured is fundamentally sound. Beyond that, medical cost inflation must be brought under control. The free market has failed miserably in that endeavor and so by necessity government controls need to be instituted as they are, successfully, in the rest of the industrialized world.

We must repair international relations. Enemies like China and Russia are most effectively taken on by building coalitions with like minded countries. Not by putting "America first." Idiotic, jingoistic slogans like "globalists" need to give way to realization alliances make us stronger, not weaker.

Gun violence is arguably the top public safety issue after climate change. There are no perfect solutions to eliminating gun violence but measures must be taken to do what we can to reduce it based on empirical data. To that end, a national commission should be organized to study the problem and make recommendations to be considered.

Immigration reform along the lines of the bipartisan bill passed by the Senate in 2013 (and killed by the coward known as John Boehner in the House) needs to be enacted. A Guide to S.744: Understanding the 2013 Senate Immigration Bill

Obviously, this is just a partial list. The damage to the country brought on by the reign of corruption and incompetence by the ignorant fool known as President Shithole and his enablers is extensive and can not be reversed over night. Naturally, efforts at repair will be fought be the remnants of the cult of Trumpery. The Following's blind devotion to the fact free construct Don and right wing media has created will not be easy to extinguish since the media cohort spewing lies and distortions of the truth will remain even after the Orange Fraud is gone off the stage. But they must be marginalized. Reduced to the whining bar stool cranks and bigots that they are. Hopefully, the GOP will make a comeback as the principled conservatives they once were. Before the rise of extremism, fueled by Faux and right wing talk radio, radicalized the party in to an angry mob intolerant of anyone not like them.

 

[j-mac]

BAKE THAT FUCKING CAKE PEASANT.

Why? Need it for your gay marriage?

Well you asked how it would affect people.

By making a baker bake?

Oh the humanity!!!

The State doesn't own my labor commie.

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

How nice for you.

Not seeing the relevance here though.

Easy, you think that the State should own the labor of individuals, I don't....

 

[j-mac]

I guess you have a problem with the 13th Amendment which prohibits Slavery. Normatives are not the slaves of the Homos.

Wow, dude. How do you stretch the Constitution like that without breaking it it?

Kind of like how your side ignores the 1st and 2nd when it suits them.

Yeah? When is that?

Saying selling something means you lose your right to free exercise.
Basically every gun control proposal coming from progressive losers like yourself.

Free practice doesn't mean what you thinking means.

Nobody is preventing you from practicing whatever you want, younjus can't use it as an excuse to discriminate.

No discrimination occured...The court decided that.

 

[Crepitus]

Why? Need it for your gay marriage?

Well you asked how it would affect people.

By making a baker bake?

Oh the humanity!!!

The State doesn't own my labor commie.

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

How nice for you.

Not seeing the relevance here though.

Easy, you think that the State should own the labor of individuals, I don't....

No, I don't. It's a nice straw man though, I can tell you worked hard on it.

 

[dannyboys]

Just to take a reality break...
1. The senate will likely stay GOP based on the fact that Doug Jones is toast in AL, and the 4 toss-ups all won't go democrat.
2. The House will likely swing back to the GOP because the 31 seats the dems won in 2018 in Trump districts will most likely swing back to the GOP since Trump has a 95% approval rating among Republicans
3. So even if Joe ekes out a presidential win he won't be able to do much damage.
More likely Trump will win re-election, just based on Joe being so old and obviously has dementia.

With the exception of the POT taking back the House what you said is possible. The OP was really just a list of things that need to be put back on track if the country is to thrive going forward. Cuz........you know.........4 more years of this debacle will just make it more difficult to come back from.

After the DNC makes sure Joe wins the nomination the Bernie Brown Shirts will stay home or vote for Trump on election day.
Trump's base will turn out of historic number to defeat Biden. The DEMs will lose Congress and of course the Senate
These are undeniable facts.
The DEM party will disintegrate and the result will be two or three political parties populated with former DEMs all fighting for a piece of the pie. Think Israel.
These parties will insure the REPs hold the Presidency and Congress and the Senate for at least three election cycles before they coilese into one party.
By that time Don Jr. will be ending his second Presidential term.

 

[berg80]

Another total bullshit thread that should be moved to the conspiracy theory board.

I do so enjoy seeing you Trumpleton's get triggered by the truth.

 

[j-mac]

Well you asked how it would affect people.

By making a baker bake?

Oh the humanity!!!

The State doesn't own my labor commie.

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

How nice for you.

Not seeing the relevance here though.

Easy, you think that the State should own the labor of individuals, I don't....

No, I don't. It's a nice straw man though, I can tell you worked hard on it.

Sure you do....You believe that the Government should be able to tell business owners who they do business with, you believe that the Government should be able to tell doctors who they should treat, and how much they should be paid for their services, you believe that Government should tell business owners how much they should pay their employees, and on and on and on....These are not strawmen, since I never said that you actually said these things, but rather through observation of your posts through the time I've been in here, and my opinion of what you believe....So, first I would advise you learn what a strawman argument is, second be a little more honest in your conversations with those that disagree with you about politics....

 

[j-mac]

Another total bullshit thread that should be moved to the conspiracy theory board.

I do so enjoy seeing you Trumpleton's get triggered by the truth.

When you start telling the truth let us know.