If republicans claim to be so opposed to socialism, why is it that they are so content with...

You guys do of course realize that any spending on defense or anything else could not be done with the approval of the until January 2015 Democrat controlled Senate and the signature of the Democrat President. I guess because some of you think the President can make laws on his own you also think the House can authorize spending without the Senate or President.
 
Obama is a politicians. He does things you'd expect of a politician. He gets taken in by the right's propaganda massively.

Sweet holy Moses! Do you really expect me to believe that? Is that the best you could come up with?

Him saying he supports the troops is because the right will criticize anyone who doesn't "support the troops", he opposes the war but supports the troops still means the Republicans won.

You must be joking. You simply can't accept the fact Obama sided with the Bush administration.

Same with Libya, he bombed Libya because McCain put pressure on him and he was worried he'd lose support if he didn't act.

...

(facepalms)

I prefer Obama's bull to Bush's clear disregard for everything in invading Iraq, doesn't mean I support his bull.

And that in turn is bull. Do you expect me to believe this too?
 
...spending trillions on defense each year?

Oh it's because they are hypocritical scumbags.

Trillions?
Try 756.4 billion

Defense is in the Constitution.
Social programs are not.

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you mean link?
US Military Budget Components Challenges Growth

The U.S. military budget is $756.4 billion for FY 2015. This includes:
  • $495.6 billion for the base budget of the Department of Defense (DoD).
  • $85.4 billion for Overseas Contingency Funds for the wind-down of the War in Afghanistan.
  • $175.4 billion for defense-related agencies and functions. This includes the Veterans Administration ($65.3 billion), the State Department ($42.6 billion), Homeland Security ($38.2 billion), FBI and Cybersecurity in the Department of Justice ($17.6 billion), and the National Nuclear Security Administration in the Department of Energy ($11.7 billion).
 
No.

He was hammered by the right because his pull out failed to maintain 'gains' in Iraq and led to essentially another civil war.

The details of that can fill a book and there have been many threads devoted to should have/shouldn't have/never should have etc so that discussion really does not belong here but boiling it down to what you just did is rather dishonest.

But then the same people who will criticise Obama, probably won't criticise Bush for causing the major problems in the first place. A decent policy would have meant that the post war period would have been less harsh and less long for it to lead to something resembling normality.

Obama didn't have much choice in pulling out.
 
Obama is a politicians. He does things you'd expect of a politician. He gets taken in by the right's propaganda massively.

Sweet holy Moses! Do you really expect me to believe that? Is that the best you could come up with?

Him saying he supports the troops is because the right will criticize anyone who doesn't "support the troops", he opposes the war but supports the troops still means the Republicans won.

You must be joking. You simply can't accept the fact Obama sided with the Bush administration.

Same with Libya, he bombed Libya because McCain put pressure on him and he was worried he'd lose support if he didn't act.

...

(facepalms)

I prefer Obama's bull to Bush's clear disregard for everything in invading Iraq, doesn't mean I support his bull.

And that in turn is bull. Do you expect me to believe this too?


You don't think Obama is a politician? You don't think he plays the game? I've been around youth politicians and I've seen their ways of thinking, and it's not actually that much different to Obama's way of thinking. How can he gain politically from such an event? It's always about the politics, and less about real life, because, quite frankly, a lot of politicians have a very poor view of the real world.

As for your view that I can't accept Obama sided with Bush. Er... why? Oh, wait, you think everyone plays the silly little partisan BS game. So I guess if I were looking at the world from your point of view, I might think that too.

But look at your post. You haven't said anything, just "you're wrong" "Why should I believe you?" etc. Do you not have your own opinion?
 
No.

He was hammered by the right because his pull out failed to maintain 'gains' in Iraq and led to essentially another civil war.

The details of that can fill a book and there have been many threads devoted to should have/shouldn't have/never should have etc so that discussion really does not belong here but boiling it down to what you just did is rather dishonest.

But then the same people who will criticise Obama, probably won't criticise Bush for causing the major problems in the first place. A decent policy would have meant that the post war period would have been less harsh and less long for it to lead to something resembling normality.

Obama didn't have much choice in pulling out.
Of course he had a choice. I will put the responsibility for Obama's decisions and actions with Obama and the responsibility for Bush's decisions and actions with Bush. Stating that others might not do so is no excuse to do the same.

The fact is that Obama screwed up in Iraq. There is no way around that. Bush screwed up majorly by going there in the first place and that has earned him enough ire as to be called one of the worst presidents ever by a LOT of people. I think that may very well flush out as well - all this war America is embroiled in is largely a result of Bush policies. Obama, however, took on that responsibility when he took office and I don't see where he has made any real improvements.
 
...spending trillions on defense each year?

Oh it's because they are hypocritical scumbags.

If you were to actually speak or actually listen to a conservative, they would tell you that, first and foremost, the duty of the government is to protect its citizens.

So they will always push for as much military spending as possible. Try to get them to take a dollar out of the military budget and you'll have a big ol' fight, unfortunately.

I'm pretty sure that anyone who isn't crazed by their partisan ideology knows this.

I wonder why it's so important for you to be a troll. You try so dang hard.

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What is a troll to you? Is PoliticalChic a troll?

Sure. People who are more interested in flinging poo than in civil discourse.

I don't know what you think you're accomplishing. Surely you can't be attempting to stimulate civil discourse with your behavior, so it must be the poo thing.

It's probably safe to surmise, then, that you'd prefer to make divisions even worse, and I wonder why.

Your call, I was just curious. I'm fascinated by the behavior of hardcore partisan ideologues.

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I'm asking legitimate questions. I target republicans because, to me, they are the greater of two evils by far.

That's what makes you a Democrat.
 
...spending trillions on defense each year?

Oh it's because they are hypocritical scumbags.
Or it is because it is their constitutional obligation to provide for defense.

That said you could have a done a lot better, but you're a tier 11 intellectual so you're forgiven. Carry on with your 'tardation.
It's in the constitution to spend near 2 trillion a year?

Is it in the constitution to spend trillions on welfare and social programs? Nope!

So, what was your point again, Billy? Did you have one or were you just trying to look like a moron? If the latter, congratulations! You've done it!
Why are even talking about welfare? Lol. The point is repubs bitch about socialism and dems do not.

Of course Democrats don't bitch about socialism. They are socialists.
 
Another BIlly Triple Goose Egg troll thread where he gets his ass handed to him because he is plain stooopid.
 
...spending trillions on defense each year?

Oh it's because they are hypocritical scumbags.
Or it is because it is their constitutional obligation to provide for defense.

That said you could have a done a lot better, but you're a tier 11 intellectual so you're forgiven. Carry on with your 'tardation.
It's in the constitution to spend near 2 trillion a year?

We don't even spend 1/3 of that amount on defence.
 
...spending trillions on defense each year?

Oh it's because they are hypocritical scumbags.


Defense is one of the very few legitimate functions of government.

The hypocritical scumbags are the Democrats that complain about defense spending but yet elected Obama who has spent more money on defense than any President in history.
 
...spending trillions on defense each year?

Oh it's because they are hypocritical scumbags.


Defense is one of the very few legitimate functions of government.

The hypocritical scumbags are the Democrats that complain about defense spending but yet elected Obama who has spent more money on defense than any President in history.

Billy000IQ probably doesn't know that far more is spent on social programs.

Department of Defense, 17.7%
Social programs over three times that.
2013 United States federal budget - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
 
If you were to actually speak or actually listen to a conservative, they would tell you that, first and foremost, the duty of the government is to protect its citizens.

So they will always push for as much military spending as possible. Try to get them to take a dollar out of the military budget and you'll have a big ol' fight, unfortunately.

I'm pretty sure that anyone who isn't crazed by their partisan ideology knows this.

I wonder why it's so important for you to be a troll. You try so dang hard.

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What is a troll to you? Is PoliticalChic a troll?

Sure. People who are more interested in flinging poo than in civil discourse.

I don't know what you think you're accomplishing. Surely you can't be attempting to stimulate civil discourse with your behavior, so it must be the poo thing.

It's probably safe to surmise, then, that you'd prefer to make divisions even worse, and I wonder why.

Your call, I was just curious. I'm fascinated by the behavior of hardcore partisan ideologues.

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I'm asking legitimate questions. I target republicans because, to me, they are the greater of two evils by far.
Wake up! They are both evil.

Your premise that Rs are the greater evil is foolish, when your realize the Ds control much of the media and all of Hollywood and academia.
Dems are evil but they at least push policies that make sense. Sure they are corrupt and hypocritical, but I can at least agree with them.
So you want to gut the military, and pay people not to work?
 
...spending trillions on defense each year?

Oh it's because they are hypocritical scumbags.

There is little difference between Rs and Ds. When your understand that, you will have attained a level of understanding most 12 years easily attain.

Stop being a partisan little bitch and accept the reality that both parties are near mirror images of each other.

The hypocrite here is you.
What sets dems apart is that they don't bitch about socialism or big spending. That's the point
Then your point lacks intelligence. It does not matter what any politician says. Most of them are prolific liars and thieving criminals. What matters is what they do. How could you not know this?
I don't claim to like dems. You're just making your own assumptions.
you dont have to claim it Billy.....your posts speak for themselves....
 
Wake up! They are both evil.

Your premise that Rs are the greater evil is foolish, when your realize the Ds control much of the media and all of Hollywood and academia.
Dems are evil but they at least push policies that make sense. Sure they are corrupt and hypocritical, but I can at least agree with them.

So you are good with being a hypocrite too! Nice, man! You're really batting a 1,000 in here.
How am I bird a hypocrite?

Well, this thread is seething with hypocrisy to start. You take republicans to task over spending while letting the democrats who off the hook as though they were held hostage by republicans when they voted for the spending.

Then you do not want to talk about the spending levels of democrat pet programs. I'd say that makes you a shoe-in as a full blown hypocrite, Billy.

It's ok though. We know you're not very smart and a complete partisan hack.
This isn't hard to figure out. Repubs bitch about over spending and socialism. Dems do not.

Can you comprehend that?
Cause liberals are socialist?
 
...spending trillions on defense each year?

Oh it's because they are hypocritical scumbags.


Defense is one of the very few legitimate functions of government.

The hypocritical scumbags are the Democrats that complain about defense spending but yet elected Obama who has spent more money on defense than any President in history.

Billy000IQ probably doesn't know that far more is spent on social programs.

Department of Defense, 17.7%
Social programs over three times that.
2013 United States federal budget - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
That covers a huge range of programs. Food stamps is only 68 billion.
 
...spending trillions on defense each year?

Oh it's because they are hypocritical scumbags.

If you were to actually speak or actually listen to a conservative, they would tell you that, first and foremost, the duty of the government is to protect its citizens.

So they will always push for as much military spending as possible. Try to get them to take a dollar out of the military budget and you'll have a big ol' fight, unfortunately.

I'm pretty sure that anyone who isn't crazed by their partisan ideology knows this.

I wonder why it's so important for you to be a troll. You try so dang hard.

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What is a troll to you? Is PoliticalChic a troll?

Sure. People who are more interested in flinging poo than in civil discourse.

I don't know what you think you're accomplishing. Surely you can't be attempting to stimulate civil discourse with your behavior, so it must be the poo thing.

It's probably safe to surmise, then, that you'd prefer to make divisions even worse, and I wonder why.

Your call, I was just curious. I'm fascinated by the behavior of hardcore partisan ideologues.

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I'm asking legitimate questions. I target republicans because, to me, they are the greater of two evils by far.
i asked you a legitimate question too Billy in your other thread.....look at the answer i got from you.....remember when you called Democrats "corrupt but hypercritical assholes"?......and all i did was ask how you could back people like that when you admit they are assholes just like the other guys....MOST people,except,the farther right and left.....would have a problem with backing someone like that.....you kinda got pissed at me billy....and ignored me the rest of the thread.......must have hit one of them "far" left nerves.....the audacity of me......
 

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