If Israel Disappears, "Others Will Too."

[Phoenall]

Interesting article by a highly intelligent Palestinian of Jordanian ethnicity.

Mudar Zahran: “If Israel disappears, others will too” | Opinion - Conservative

Just reading about the author discredits him.

Mudar Zahran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In what way, and only an islamonazi would come out with such a remark.

He has a bone to pick. Anyone with an agenda is a discredit. Also everyone knows Iraq didn't have nuclear weapons or were even close to getting them when Israel did their night time bomb thing.
I am beginning to believe that its either Iran or Israel, and I must say, Iran has every right that Israel does to defend itself and do a preemptive strike, or is Israel the only one allowed to do that?

The facts prove you wrong on all counts

Why has Iran enriched so much uranium ore when it was being supplied from Russia for the power station they were building. They have since built more centrifuges to enrich even more ore to weapons grade and have hidden them underground.
To make a preemptive strike you first need to show a clear and present danger, Iran can not show this is the case so if they mass their troops in such a way as to threaten Israel then they are showing a clear and present danger.

Try getting a proper education and not one infused with islamonazi propaganda

 

[Phoenall]

The above is not a theory, it sure got the US into war, kind of like another Pearl Harbor. If Israel disappeared , no one else would except if they put into effect the "Sampson Option" of which they
probably would. Most are aware the twin towers and the 7 WTC building came down by controlled demolition.

WRONG AS ANERICA WAS ALREADY IN A WAR WITH IRAQ, Or have you forgotten about the invasion in 1990. Have you also forgotten that bin laden blamed the invasion of Iraq for the mass murder of 3000 innocent unarmed Americans.

Take it from an expert there was no controlled demolition of the twin towers, it was poor design and cost cutting that caused the collapse. To plant enough explosives in such a structure while it is still in use would take 2 years and the people working there would complain about the smell of new paint and fire retardents used. The buildings collapsed as they did because the steel skeleton was weakened by the intense heat of the burning fuel that caused migration of the carbon in the steel away from the source of heat. This weakened the bonds between the crystalline structure and made the steel unable to sustain the weight. A simple test of this is to weld two pieces of steel and see where they fail under stress.

 

[Phoenall]

Awesome article and find MJB. Just awesome. Funny thing though thread this here. the absence of any pro-pal posters. What's wrong Humanity ? montelatici ? etc.? Cannot handle a mouthful of truth being told by a Palestinian, "the son of two Palestinian-Jordanian refugees"?

Crickets. . . . .

Good morning Teddy... Sorry that I haven't replied sooner, I do have a life outside of USMB, unlike many who frequent here! But thanks for the 'Call Out'!

So, onto the article...

I AGREE!

As I have stated MANY times before I do not want to see an end to Israel, not because of all of these 'remarkable discoveries' that Israel keeps making, after all, it's NOT Israel who is making these discoveries, it's people, people like you and me!

I want to see Israel exist as a homeland for Jews... Quite simple really!

The hypothesis made in the article are, well, they are just that... I am sure that there are a great many more different scenarios that could be discussed... This is just one man's opinion.

The author of the article, a Jordanian dissident living in exile with four separate charges against him for incitement against the state of Jordan, who's own father threatened to cut relations with him due to articles written... Unfortunately does not give him much credibility. There are plenty of dissident Jews out there who speak out against Israel. I'm sure that the pro Israel supporters would not pass too much credibility to those!

So, you see, long live Israel and the Jewish people!

Sorry to disappoint! ;-)

Then explain your avatar that is extremist and is what those who want an end to Israel would post. What you post and what you believe are two different things and like all muslims you speak with a forked tongue. If Israel ever does go under then expect there to be a world war involving nuclear weapons, and the whole of the M.E. being turned into glass.

You Phoney, are a fucking idiot!

Why I am even responding to your dumbass post I really don't know... Especially as my response, no matter what I reply, will only be reported to admin, no matter what...

My avatar is extremist? Why? Because YOU don't like it?

"What you post and what you believe are two different things "

Really?

The issue there is you are a simple minded, zionut without any free thought! Put in simple terms, you are a 'simpleton'... I wouldn't want to put in any other way as that could be offensive to any other retards here...

It beggars belief that you supposed pro israel supporters can even think that a nuclear holocaust in the ME, wiping out all that you believe in, could ever be a 'good' result!

So, as much as I support the existence of Israel, a homeland for Jews... Do it, press the button, blow the shit out of the ME, out of Israel... Let's start again! Where are the zionuts going to want to destroy next? Uganda? Kenya? New York?

You just proved me right and you are too dumb to realise you have. Like the others that will disappear if Israel goes so will you when you no longer have an axe to grind against Israel.

 

[Phoenall]

I see. So would you be so kind as to educate those Zionists as to what he said that isn't true? 'Atta girl.

If you look at your own link it will show you will see that it is "Opinion"...

Doesn't make his words true or false... Simply his "opinion"...

We are all entitled to those, even those who break the law, as Zahran has...

Zarhan broke the law by telling it like it is with facts???

In YOUR opinion...

As I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion...

The 'weight' of a person's opinion depends on a lot of different factors...

A person charged with "incitement" and discredited by his own father does not carry a lot of 'weight'... In MY opinion!

Unless that opinion is counter to what yours is, then they should be silenced along with their friends and family. Just like happened in Russia, China, Cambodia and many Islamic states.

Wow, would it help if we were smoking what you are smoking?

Maybe that would enable everyone to actually comprehend what your wacked mind writes... Because I'm sure you have NO idea what you are writing sometimes!

Since when were Russia, China, Cambodia Islamic States?

Your English is lacking still I see, this is what happens when you ignore your free education and instead follow the imam like a puppy. Cant you see that the comparison of communist and Islamic states shows that they all murder the voices of dissent. And where did I claim that China, Russia and Cambodia where Islamic nations ?

 

[MJB12741]

Well what did Zarhan say that you disagree with --- in your opinion?

There is nothing to agree OR disagree with in the article...

It's a Jordanian dissident letting off steam... Pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of things...

So nice to know you would consider Noam Chomsky as a dissident just letting off steam rather than take him seriously.
"Pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of things."

Are you stupid? Hmmm don't answer that, we already know the answer!!!

1) Who mentioned Noam Chomsky?
2) Why would anyone post 'Off Topic' comments on their own OP?
3) Why would anyone want to 'Derail' their own OP?

What an underachieving idiot you are MJB!!!

Aw gee, did I hurt your feelings? Now you are acting like some dissident letting off steam. Heh Heh!

"Pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of things."​

Ooohh..

Did you take on the brain cell of Phoney?

Let's look at the evidence...

You started the OP...

You now try to derail your own OP...

You not getting the answers you wanted?

Brainless Schmuck...

Oh my word! Now look what I have done. Humanity in all his highly educated, well controlled, unbiased demeaner has flipped out over my post. Oh well, at least he's still here to give us laughs.

 

[Humanity]

There is nothing to agree OR disagree with in the article...

It's a Jordanian dissident letting off steam... Pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of things...

So nice to know you would consider Noam Chomsky as a dissident just letting off steam rather than take him seriously.
"Pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of things."

Are you stupid? Hmmm don't answer that, we already know the answer!!!

1) Who mentioned Noam Chomsky?
2) Why would anyone post 'Off Topic' comments on their own OP?
3) Why would anyone want to 'Derail' their own OP?

What an underachieving idiot you are MJB!!!

Aw gee, did I hurt your feelings? Now you are acting like some dissident letting off steam. Heh Heh!

"Pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of things."​

Ooohh..

Did you take on the brain cell of Phoney?

Let's look at the evidence...

You started the OP...

You now try to derail your own OP...

You not getting the answers you wanted?

Brainless Schmuck...

Oh my word! Now look what I have done. Humanity in all his highly educated, well controlled, unbiased demeaner has flipped out over my post. Oh well, at least he's still here to give us laughs.

Flipped out?

Hahaha... NO...

Just pointing out that you are incapable of having a proper conversation due to your lack of intelligence as shown by the way you are derailing your own OP!

If Israel disappears, "others will too"...

Well, let's hope that Israel doesn't disappear....

What would ass licking, zionut schmucks like you have to moan about then!

 

[MJB12741]

So nice to know you would consider Noam Chomsky as a dissident just letting off steam rather than take him seriously.
"Pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of things."

Are you stupid? Hmmm don't answer that, we already know the answer!!!

1) Who mentioned Noam Chomsky?
2) Why would anyone post 'Off Topic' comments on their own OP?
3) Why would anyone want to 'Derail' their own OP?

What an underachieving idiot you are MJB!!!

Aw gee, did I hurt your feelings? Now you are acting like some dissident letting off steam. Heh Heh!

"Pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of things."​

Ooohh..

Did you take on the brain cell of Phoney?

Let's look at the evidence...

You started the OP...

You now try to derail your own OP...

You not getting the answers you wanted?

Brainless Schmuck...

Oh my word! Now look what I have done. Humanity in all his highly educated, well controlled, unbiased demeaner has flipped out over my post. Oh well, at least he's still here to give us laughs.

Flipped out?

Hahaha... NO...

Just pointing out that you are incapable of having a proper conversation due to your lack of intelligence as shown by the way you are derailing your own OP!

If Israel disappears, "others will too"...

Well, let's hope that Israel doesn't disappear....

What would ass licking, zionut schmucks like you have to moan about then!

LOL "Ass licking Zionist schmucks." Oh Lord, what have I done to make this poor soul so miserable? What can I do to redeem myself for what I have done to him? How about I tell Bibi to plant a tree in Humanity's name to thank him for his tax dollars?

 

[MJB12741]

Are you stupid? Hmmm don't answer that, we already know the answer!!!

1) Who mentioned Noam Chomsky?
2) Why would anyone post 'Off Topic' comments on their own OP?
3) Why would anyone want to 'Derail' their own OP?

What an underachieving idiot you are MJB!!!

Aw gee, did I hurt your feelings? Now you are acting like some dissident letting off steam. Heh Heh!

"Pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of things."​

Ooohh..

Did you take on the brain cell of Phoney?

Let's look at the evidence...

You started the OP...

You now try to derail your own OP...

You not getting the answers you wanted?

Brainless Schmuck...

Oh my word! Now look what I have done. Humanity in all his highly educated, well controlled, unbiased demeaner has flipped out over my post. Oh well, at least he's still here to give us laughs.

Flipped out?

Hahaha... NO...

Just pointing out that you are incapable of having a proper conversation due to your lack of intelligence as shown by the way you are derailing your own OP!

If Israel disappears, "others will too"...

Well, let's hope that Israel doesn't disappear....

What would ass licking, zionut schmucks like you have to moan about then!

LOL "Ass licking Zionist schmucks." Oh Lord, what have I done to make this poor soul so miserable? What can I do to redeem myself for what I have done to him? How about I tell Bibi to plant a tree in Humanity's name to thank him for his tax dollars?

When all that is left in a discussion is to call the opposition derogatory names, the loser exposes himself to all as a fool to be laughed at.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Correct, Israel is on the front lines of Islam's war against modern civilization, freedom, equality, democracy, coexistence, and Western values in general. And Israel is fighting this war heroically and brilliantly and teaching the world how to do it. Western countries are now asking Israeli security forces assistance and advice on how to prevent and deal with ISIS type attacks on their own soil.

Israel has always shared intelligence with our allied nations against our enemies who want to kill us & destroy our democracies.

If the world wants to defeat Islamic terrorism they're going to need Israel's knowledge and guidance. They're the only ones who have a decades old track record of success. Whether it be at airports, border security, or preventing terror attacks on civilians or soft targets, Israel has been through it all. There is no difference between actions of a Hamas terrorist or an ISIS terrorist.

I think you got that bassackwards.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Israeli intelligence, but most importantly Israeli know how.

Israeli intelligence pails to American intelligence.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Israeli intelligence, but most importantly Israeli know how.

Yes but when will Israel learn from Jordan's "know how" when it comes to dealing with Palestinians? LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

It is SO very hard to put an entire race in a gulag-like prison which Gaza is, and boy, they don't even need a lick of help to torture their captives. Not even a camel.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Interesting article by a highly intelligent Palestinian of Jordanian ethnicity.

Mudar Zahran: “If Israel disappears, others will too” | Opinion - Conservative

Just reading about the author discredits him.

Mudar Zahran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I see. So would you be so kind as to educate those Zionists as to what he said that isn't true? 'Atta girl.

If you look at your own link it will show you will see that it is "Opinion"...

Doesn't make his words true or false... Simply his "opinion"...

We are all entitled to those, even those who break the law, as Zahran has...

Zarhan broke the law by telling it like it is with facts???

In YOUR opinion...

As I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion...

The 'weight' of a person's opinion depends on a lot of different factors...

A person charged with "incitement" and discredited by his own father does not carry a lot of 'weight'... In MY opinion!

Palestinians do not have the luxury of opinion.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Interesting article by a highly intelligent Palestinian of Jordanian ethnicity.

Mudar Zahran: “If Israel disappears, others will too” | Opinion - Conservative

Just reading about the author discredits him.

Mudar Zahran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I see. So would you be so kind as to educate those Zionists as to what he said that isn't true? 'Atta girl.

Just what educated programming are they getting?

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

They're disappearing now. Iraq is no longer a viable state. The same with Syria, Egypt, Libya. The "Kingdom" is a joke. Yeah, it's all Israel's fault.

Yes, that is the whole plan in a nutshell. Time is on Israel's side. After all the settlements, checkpoints, killings, and other total foreign control, Israel is hoping and surely sure about it, the Palestinians will just disappear off the face of the earth. After all, they are a not a true race, and that is what Israel expects, that the Muslims will finally relent someday, maybe in the next century, that this half-race was not THAT important. I doubt it, but THAT IS Israel's hope.

 

[Penelope]

They're disappearing now. Iraq is no longer a viable state. The same with Syria, Egypt, Libya. The "Kingdom" is a joke. Yeah, it's all Israel's fault.

Yes, that is the whole plan in a nutshell. Time is on Israel's side. After all the settlements, checkpoints, killings, and other total foreign control, Israel is hoping and surely sure about it, the Palestinians will just disappear off the face of the earth. After all, they are a not a true race, and that is what Israel expects, that the Muslims will finally relent someday, maybe in the next century, that this half-race was not THAT important. I doubt it, but THAT IS Israel's hope.

What are you smoking, Palestinians are not a true race, really jews are not a race either. Palestinians are called Palestinians because that is where they are from Palestine. Israel has been fighting since 1920, and your right they will end up one day eradicating the Palestinians, but be assured the Palestinians have more right to be there than the Russians, Ukrainians, Europeans, Americans, as few of those Israelis were born there, or had parents and grandparents born there.

 

[MJB12741]

Palestinians demanded a Jew free Gaza. Israel made the mistake of granting it to them as the Palestinians use it as a base for rocket missiles to thank Israel. Live & learn Israel. Live & learn.

 

[Roudy]

Correct, Israel is on the front lines of Islam's war against modern civilization, freedom, equality, democracy, coexistence, and Western values in general. And Israel is fighting this war heroically and brilliantly and teaching the world how to do it. Western countries are now asking Israeli security forces assistance and advice on how to prevent and deal with ISIS type attacks on their own soil.

Israel has always shared intelligence with our allied nations against our enemies who want to kill us & destroy our democracies.

If the world wants to defeat Islamic terrorism they're going to need Israel's knowledge and guidance. They're the only ones who have a decades old track record of success. Whether it be at airports, border security, or preventing terror attacks on civilians or soft targets, Israel has been through it all. There is no difference between actions of a Hamas terrorist or an ISIS terrorist.

I think you got that bassackwards.

How so?

 

[Elvis Obama]

They're disappearing now. Iraq is no longer a viable state. The same with Syria, Egypt, Libya. The "Kingdom" is a joke. Yeah, it's all Israel's fault.

Yes, that is the whole plan in a nutshell. Time is on Israel's side. After all the settlements, checkpoints, killings, and other total foreign control, Israel is hoping and surely sure about it, the Palestinians will just disappear off the face of the earth. After all, they are a not a true race, and that is what Israel expects, that the Muslims will finally relent someday, maybe in the next century, that this half-race was not THAT important. I doubt it, but THAT IS Israel's hope.

What are you smoking, Palestinians are not a true race, really jews are not a race either. Palestinians are called Palestinians because that is where they are from Palestine. Israel has been fighting since 1920, and your right they will end up one day eradicating the Palestinians, but be assured the Palestinians have more right to be there than the Russians, Ukrainians, Europeans, Americans, as few of those Israelis were born there, or had parents and grandparents born there.

Do the native Americans have more right to be in the US than the European settlers, by your logic? Shall we give them back Ohio? Raze it completely, to restore a "happy hunting ground", and let them live some bizarre tribal fantasy in the midst of the modern world?

We're not very good at modernizing primitive people. The process has always been brutal and thoughtless. You simply can't have savages roaming the streets who are incapable of conforming to our standards of conduct.

 

[Penelope]

They're disappearing now. Iraq is no longer a viable state. The same with Syria, Egypt, Libya. The "Kingdom" is a joke. Yeah, it's all Israel's fault.

Yes, that is the whole plan in a nutshell. Time is on Israel's side. After all the settlements, checkpoints, killings, and other total foreign control, Israel is hoping and surely sure about it, the Palestinians will just disappear off the face of the earth. After all, they are a not a true race, and that is what Israel expects, that the Muslims will finally relent someday, maybe in the next century, that this half-race was not THAT important. I doubt it, but THAT IS Israel's hope.

What are you smoking, Palestinians are not a true race, really jews are not a race either. Palestinians are called Palestinians because that is where they are from Palestine. Israel has been fighting since 1920, and your right they will end up one day eradicating the Palestinians, but be assured the Palestinians have more right to be there than the Russians, Ukrainians, Europeans, Americans, as few of those Israelis were born there, or had parents and grandparents born there.

Do the native Americans have more right to be in the US than the European settlers, by your logic? Shall we give them back Ohio? Raze it completely, to restore a "happy hunting ground", and let them live some bizarre tribal fantasy in the midst of the modern world?

We're not very good at modernizing primitive people. The process has always been brutal and thoughtless. You simply can't have savages roaming the streets who are incapable of conforming to our standards of conduct.

I agree, and I just can't understand why the Zionist would want to go back to the OT days.

 

[Elvis Obama]

Palestinians demanded a Jew free Gaza. Israel made the mistake of granting it to them as the Palestinians use it as a base for rocket missiles to thank Israel. Live & learn Israel. Live & learn.

When the grant was proposed my jaw hit the ground. It seemed so obvious what would happen, and happen it did. Now, I think of it as classic divide and conquer tactics. Create a "moderate" Palestinian group in the West Bank, a Hamas led group in Gaza, and Hezbollah to represent the "disapora" Paestinians. You can never get these groups to coordinate properly. They hate each other.