If Israel Disappears, "Others Will Too."

[montelatici]

DNA analysis of Egyptians is less controversial than that of Palestinians so online information is pretty reliable. Plus, ancient Egyptian DNA is readily available. This analysis has calculated that modern (today's) Egyptian DNA varies no more than 10% on average than the earliest ancient Egyptian available.

Invaders of Palestine. including the Jewish invasion of Canaan, probably account no more than 10% of the modern Palestinian DNA. They are pretty much, like the Egyptians, the same as their ancient ancestors, the Philistines and Canaanites.

"Egypt has experienced several invasions during its history. However, these do not seem to account for more than about 10% overall of current Egyptians ancestry when the DNA evidence of the ancient mitochondrial DNA and modern Y chromosomes is considered."

DNA history of Egypt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[montelatici]

By the way, this is not unusual. Italian DNA, which has had more invasions since the Roman Empire fell than probably any other place has not changed much either. Ancient Sicilian DNA, for example, has almost not been affected at all by the Arab and Norman invasions, for example. And the Saracens (Arabs) ruled Sicily for several centuries.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

By the way, this is not unusual. Italian DNA, which has had more invasions since the Roman Empire fell than probably any other place has not changed much either. Ancient Sicilian DNA, for example, has almost not been affected at all by the Arab and Norman invasions, for example. And the Saracens (Arabs) ruled Sicily for several centuries.

It was an ingenious move for the Arabs who live in Israel to claim they were descended from the ancient Canaanites, who disappeared from history a long time ago. The Palestinians can't even pronounce their own name in Arabic--that's how ancient the Palestinian people are. A document from the 1920's claim that Palestine was constantly being replenished by nomads from Arabia. And alot of Palestinian surnames come from Egypt, Syria, Yemen, etc. All in all, Arabs come from Arabia, while Jews come from Judea.

 

[montelatici]

Repeating Zionist propaganda designed to minimize crime of ethnic cleansing of the native people of Palestine no longer works. There is too much source documentation that debunks all the Zionist myths. Palestinian surnames come from Palestine. This ridiculous assertion about surnames is the height of absurdity. It's like saying that Spaniards are not indigenous to Spain because Latin Americans have Spanish surnames.

Furthermore, DNA analysis supports the fact that the Palestinians are more or less the same people that have always lived in Canaan/Palestine. Furthermore, Middle Eastern Jews and Palestinians are virtually indistinguishable genetically.

"So, as far as male lineage goes, the genetic story is very clear. Palestinians and Jews are virtually indistinguishable.
Women are a bit more tricky…Where they came from wasn’t clear, but the most likely explanation was that they were from local populations that bred with immigrant Jewish males. Their offspring became absorbed into the Jewish community.

- See more at: The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

As far as the European Jews, they come from Europe, by definition and by DNA analysis.

"Most Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of European women who converted to Judaism, possibly around the time of the early Roman empire, concludes a new genetic study.......
The researchers found that more than 80 percent of the maternal lineages of Ashkenazi Jews could be traced to indigenous Europeans...",

read more: Study traces Ashkenazi roots to European women who probably converted to Judaism - Jewish World News

or

"Surprise: Ashkenazi Jews Are Genetically European
Though the finding may seem intuitive, it contradicts the notion that European Jews mostly descend from people who left Israel and the Middle East around 2,000 years ago. Instead, a a substantial proportion of the population originates from local Europeans who converted to Judaism, said study co-author Martin Richards, an archaeogeneticist at the University of Huddersfield in England."

Surprise: Ashkenazi Jews Are Genetically European

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

They're disappearing now. Iraq is no longer a viable state. The same with Syria, Egypt, Libya. The "Kingdom" is a joke. Yeah, it's all Israel's fault.

Yes, that is the whole plan in a nutshell. Time is on Israel's side. After all the settlements, checkpoints, killings, and other total foreign control, Israel is hoping and surely sure about it, the Palestinians will just disappear off the face of the earth. After all, they are a not a true race, and that is what Israel expects, that the Muslims will finally relent someday, maybe in the next century, that this half-race was not THAT important. I doubt it, but THAT IS Israel's hope.

What are you smoking, Palestinians are not a true race, really jews are not a race either. Palestinians are called Palestinians because that is where they are from Palestine. Israel has been fighting since 1920, and your right they will end up one day eradicating the Palestinians, but be assured the Palestinians have more right to be there than the Russians, Ukrainians, Europeans, Americans, as few of those Israelis were born there, or had parents and grandparents born there.

Not in the common use of the term "race."

The Palestinians have Greek Blood (Herodotus) mixed with Arab blood over the years.
They are a real ancient race that one day they will lead the Arabs in every critical decision they have to take.
Just wait and see.
bye bye

What race are the Palestinian people ?

What does it matter what race Palestinians are?

Try to follow the conversation.

 

[MJB12741]

Repeating Zionist propaganda designed to minimize crime of ethnic cleansing of the native people of Palestine no longer works. There is too much source documentation that debunks all the Zionist myths. Palestinian surnames come from Palestine. This ridiculous assertion about surnames is the height of absurdity. It's like saying that Spaniards are not indigenous to Spain because Latin Americans have Spanish surnames.

Furthermore, DNA analysis supports the fact that the Palestinians are more or less the same people that have always lived in Canaan/Palestine. Furthermore, Middle Eastern Jews and Palestinians are virtually indistinguishable genetically.

"So, as far as male lineage goes, the genetic story is very clear. Palestinians and Jews are virtually indistinguishable.
Women are a bit more tricky…Where they came from wasn’t clear, but the most likely explanation was that they were from local populations that bred with immigrant Jewish males. Their offspring became absorbed into the Jewish community.

- See more at: The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

As far as the European Jews, they come from Europe, by definition and by DNA analysis.

"Most Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of European women who converted to Judaism, possibly around the time of the early Roman empire, concludes a new genetic study.......
The researchers found that more than 80 percent of the maternal lineages of Ashkenazi Jews could be traced to indigenous Europeans...",

read more: Study traces Ashkenazi roots to European women who probably converted to Judaism - Jewish World News

or

"Surprise: Ashkenazi Jews Are Genetically European
Though the finding may seem intuitive, it contradicts the notion that European Jews mostly descend from people who left Israel and the Middle East around 2,000 years ago. Instead, a a substantial proportion of the population originates from local Europeans who converted to Judaism, said study co-author Martin Richards, an archaeogeneticist at the University of Huddersfield in England."

Surprise: Ashkenazi Jews Are Genetically European

Now THAT"S funny. "Ethnic cleasing of the native people of Palestine." For your education, in 1948 there were approximately 1.2 million Palestinians living in Israel. And now there are just over 6 million of them left. Yep, it's a GENOCIDE I tell ya, a GENOCIDE! Pass it on. 'Atta boy.

Population Statistics - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - ProCon.org

 

[MJB12741]

Repeating Zionist propaganda designed to minimize crime of ethnic cleansing of the native people of Palestine no longer works. There is too much source documentation that debunks all the Zionist myths. Palestinian surnames come from Palestine. This ridiculous assertion about surnames is the height of absurdity. It's like saying that Spaniards are not indigenous to Spain because Latin Americans have Spanish surnames.

Furthermore, DNA analysis supports the fact that the Palestinians are more or less the same people that have always lived in Canaan/Palestine. Furthermore, Middle Eastern Jews and Palestinians are virtually indistinguishable genetically.

"So, as far as male lineage goes, the genetic story is very clear. Palestinians and Jews are virtually indistinguishable.
Women are a bit more tricky…Where they came from wasn’t clear, but the most likely explanation was that they were from local populations that bred with immigrant Jewish males. Their offspring became absorbed into the Jewish community.

- See more at: The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians

As far as the European Jews, they come from Europe, by definition and by DNA analysis.

"Most Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of European women who converted to Judaism, possibly around the time of the early Roman empire, concludes a new genetic study.......
The researchers found that more than 80 percent of the maternal lineages of Ashkenazi Jews could be traced to indigenous Europeans...",

read more: Study traces Ashkenazi roots to European women who probably converted to Judaism - Jewish World News

or

"Surprise: Ashkenazi Jews Are Genetically European
Though the finding may seem intuitive, it contradicts the notion that European Jews mostly descend from people who left Israel and the Middle East around 2,000 years ago. Instead, a a substantial proportion of the population originates from local Europeans who converted to Judaism, said study co-author Martin Richards, an archaeogeneticist at the University of Huddersfield in England."

Surprise: Ashkenazi Jews Are Genetically European

Now THAT"S funny. "Ethnic cleasing of the native people of Palestine." For your education, in 1948 there were approximately 1.2 million Palestinians living in Israel. And now there are just over 6 million of them left. Yep, it's a GENOCIDE I tell ya, a GENOCIDE! Pass it on. 'Atta boy.

Population Statistics - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - ProCon.org

Where to they come up with these claims of "ethnic cleansing"? Is it just another example of Palestinian mentality?

 

[montelatici]

You can start with an Israeli, Ilan Pappé:
Author of The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine

 

[MJB12741]

You can start with an Israeli, Ilan Pappé:
Author of The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine

Aw c'mon, he is just "venting" like Mudar Zahran: “If Israel disappears, others will too” | Opinion - Conservative

 

[montelatici]

Pappe' is an historian.

 

[MJB12741]

Pappe' is an historian.

Yes & what a great source to insure a continued increase in support for Israel.

The Liar as Hero

 

[montelatici]

Oh, a spat between historians is fact. LOL

 

[Roudy]

Pappe' is an historian.

All your historians turned out to be frauds.

 

[Roudy]

Oh, a spat between historians is fact. LOL

Oh no, you made another false claim, this time about some historian, and you got egg on your face again.

 

[montelatici]

Wow, the old Ruddy never changes, constantly humiliated and he declares victory. You are a hoot.

 

[Roudy]

Pappe' is an historian.

Historian my ass! He's a fraudster, just like you.

Katz controversy
For more details on The Katz controversy, see Tantura.

Pappé publicly supported an M.A. thesis by Haifa University student Teddy Katz, which was approved with highest honors, that claimed Israel had committed a massacre in the Palestinian village of Tantura during the war in 1948, based upon interviews with Arab residents of the village and with an Israeli veteran of the operation. Neither Israeli nor Palestinian historians had previously recorded any such incident, which Meyrav Wurmser described as a "made-up massacre", but, according to Pappé, "the story of Tantura had already been told before, as early as 1950... It appears in the memoirs of a Haifa notable, Muhammad Nimr al-Khatib, who, a few days after the battle, recorded the testimony of a Palestinian." In December 2000, Katz was sued for libel by veterans of the Alexandroni Brigade and after the testimony was heard, he retracted his allegations about the massacre. Twelve hours later, he retracted his retraction.[citation needed] During the trial, lawyers for the veterans pointed to what they said were discrepancies between the taped interviews Katz conducted and descriptions in Katz's thesis.

Katz revised his thesis, and, following the trial, the university appointed a committee to examine it. The assessment of the revised thesis was highly mixed, but overall it was failed. Pappé continues to defend both Katz and his thesis.Tom Segev and others argued that there is merit or some truth in what Katz described. According to the Israeli New Historian Benny Morris: "There is no unequivocal proof of a large-scale massacre at Tantura.

 

[Roudy]

Wow, the old Ruddy never changes, constantly humiliated and he declares victory. You are a hoot.

Dream on, Nazi boy. You have yet to prove me wrong. That's because you're constantly defending the indefensible.

 

[MJB12741]

Wow, the old Ruddy never changes, constantly humiliated and he declares victory. You are a hoot.

Dream on, Nazi boy. You have yet to prove me wrong. That's because you're constantly defending the indefensible.

Yeah but he sure is good for laughs.

 

[montelatici]

Not quite Laurel and Hardy, but you two are close. Great for the laughs.

 

[Roudy]

Well, insane people usually laugh, because they're detached from reality.