If gun control isn't the answer, what is?

[The Rabbi]

Gun control will work in the long term. What will happen is the same thing that happened with cigarettes. The use has declined over the decades since we started placing warnings on them, society has placed burdens on smokers, the health risks have been highlighted and we've taxed the holy you-know-what out of them.

They are still available but much less front-and-center than they used to be.

It takes an incrediby long time to do this but in the end, it is worth every minute spent.

What you do is make the high volumes cartridges harder to get via mail order, place a surtax on them to make them cost prohibitive, and manufacturers sell less of them. So less are made. It is supply and demand.

Lets say that we have a bazillion of these clips out there. Over time, they wear out, get damaged, stolen, destroyed by various means such as fires, floods, etc... So the Bazillion becomes a bathousand over time. Meanwhile, the public becomes safer by increments since you're not able to log on and buy them.

You can replicate the model with things such as the AR15, AK47, etc.. and you're not diminishing the rights under the 2nd amendment at all.

Meanwhile, what you do is place armed guards in schools--men and women trained in aggressive deterence. At no point do you put guns in the hands of teachers or students. Thats batshit crazy.

Human behavior isn't going to change anytime soon but if you took everyone who can't swim and kept them away from water, you'd have fewer drowning deaths. If you stem the tide of guns, eventually, you'll have fewer on the streets.

It's not politics; it's logistics.

Banning guns for law abiding citizens, 99.9% of gun owners, is bat shit crazy.
Then the criminals and government are the only folks that have the guns.

Of course at no point did I say "ban guns from law abiding citizens". You make it very hard to get them as we have done with cigarettes. If you want to pay a $750 tax on a Bushmaster AR15...go right ahead. Nobody is stopping you. It will help pay for all the carnage such weapons deliver.

Ar 15s were used in about 12% of total crimes committed with guns while the vast majority were done with cheap handguns.
You betray your ignorance and stupidity again.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The only question is how do we keep guns out of the hands of people who want to use them to kill innocent people.

I know we have many gun laws in place so where did we fail this time? Or did we fail? Do very bad things just sometimes happen in a free society?

Very bad things just sometimes happen in EVERY society. Human beings sometimes suck beyond the telling of it, and that ain't changing.

 

[MikeK]

The only question is how do we keep guns out of the hands of people who want to use them to kill innocent people.

The simple answer is, we can't. Where guns are concerned the toothpaste is out of the tube.

There are between 200 million and 300 million guns in the hands of Americans. No one knows for sure how many. Imposing bans on guns or accessories does nothing but disarm the law-abiding and elevate the price of black market guns. The War on Drugs is a perfect example of the effectiveness of banning things which some people are willing to pay a high price for. So we ban so-called "assault weapons" and any psycho who wants one and is willing to pay the price will get one.

I know we have many gun laws in place so where did we fail this time? Or did we fail? Do very bad things just sometimes happen in a free society?

We also have laws in place to prohibit drunk driving, speeding, and reckless driving. But if images of all the fatal highway accidents which are caused by drunk or reckless drivers in a given year could be compressed into the same time frame as the Sandy Hook massacre the result would be the same kind of public hysteria we're seeing now. But what could be done? Ban all unnecessary use of motor vehicles? Ban sports cars? Require speed governors on all non-emergency vehicles?

To answer your question; bad things will necessarily happen in a free, densely populous, diverse, exceptionally militaristic and affluent society.

 

[HomeInspect]

The only question is how do we keep guns out of the hands of people who want to use them to kill innocent people.

The simple answer is, we can't. Where guns are concerned the toothpaste is out of the tube.

There are between 200 million and 300 million guns in the hands of Americans. No one knows for sure how many. Imposing bans on guns or accessories does nothing but disarm the law-abiding and elevate the price of black market guns. The War on Drugs is a perfect example of the effectiveness of banning things which some people are willing to pay a high price for. So we ban so-called "assault weapons" and any psycho who wants one and is willing to pay the price will get one.

I know we have many gun laws in place so where did we fail this time? Or did we fail? Do very bad things just sometimes happen in a free society?

We also have laws in place to prohibit drunk driving, speeding, and reckless driving. But if images of all the fatal highway accidents which are caused by drunk or reckless drivers in a given year could be compressed into the same time frame as the Sandy Hook massacre the result would be the same kind of public hysteria we're seeing now. But what could be done? Ban all unnecessary use of motor vehicles? Ban sports cars? Require speed governors on all non-emergency vehicles?

To answer your question; bad things will necessarily happen in a free, densely populous, diverse, exceptionally militaristic and affluent society.

You were right on the money MikeK.. great responses

 

[P@triot]

As usual, the facts show that the idiot liberal dumbocrat is having an irrational, knee-jerk reaction to an issue they don't understand: