If gun control isn't the answer, what is?

[Oldguy]

What is the answer?

Something, or nothing? If something, what?

 

[SniperFire]

Human nature isn't going to change anytime soon.

 

[Freewill]

Actually reports are that what happened are actually on the decline not increasing. One thing we know, if you think there is a problem, what we are doing is not the right thing. So to answer your question, for yourself, think about the way society has been moving and what we need do to reverse that trend.

 

[chikenwing]

Teach our children love and respect,hope for the best.

Dogs do what dogs do.

 

[Mac1958]

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Nothing of substance on this issue can be properly addressed until all parties involved can agree on the facts. I see both ends of the argument spouting off very convincing stats, unfortunately those stats completely contradict those from the other side.

The next thing that has to happen is the presentation of a specific list of laws the pro gun control folks want, so at least we all know what the hell we're arguing about.

All I'm seeing and hearing right now is wild-eyed ranting.

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[spectrumc01]

The re-opening of mental assylums. The ones that never should have closed in the first place. Guns, videogames, music, tv, and all the other BS don't kill people...Fucking mental patients kill people. Lock them up. Proof of needed medication is enough.

 

[ba1614]

Get back to having the lord in our lives, and a return to two parent families would be a GREAT place to start.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

You are asking the wrong question.
The right question is what has changed in out society that produces this result?
So what is making this happen?
Have availability of guns changed?...no.
So what has changed?
The answer to that - is the solution.

 

[P@triot]

What is the answer?

Something, or nothing? If something, what?

That's easy - more guns.

In every state that has enacted conceal carry laws, crime has gone down. Sorry libs, it's a simple fact.

As far as schools, well trained, well armed security. Problem solved!

 

[Truthmatters]

that is an NRA lie

 

[Truthmatters]

You are asking the wrong question.
The right question is what has changed in out society that produces this result?
So what is making this happen?
Have availability of guns changed?...no.dude yes it has
So what has changed?
The answer to that - is the solution.

New polls suggest elementary school shootings may be changing public opinion – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs


you have lost the people

 

[P@triot]

One thing I don't get - why is it so hard for the left to think logically?

Q: Where do these shooting rampages happen?
A: Where guns are completely banned (schools most often, Colorado theater, etc.)

This is NOT rocket science people. There are almost NEVER shooting rampages where guns are prevalent. And the rare times it does happen, nobody but the gunman dies.

 

[candycorn]

What is the answer?

Something, or nothing? If something, what?

Gun control will work in the long term. What will happen is the same thing that happened with cigarettes. The use has declined over the decades since we started placing warnings on them, society has placed burdens on smokers, the health risks have been highlighted and we've taxed the holy you-know-what out of them.

They are still available but much less front-and-center than they used to be.

It takes an incrediby long time to do this but in the end, it is worth every minute spent.

What you do is make the high volumes cartridges harder to get via mail order, place a surtax on them to make them cost prohibitive, and manufacturers sell less of them. So less are made. It is supply and demand.

Lets say that we have a bazillion of these clips out there. Over time, they wear out, get damaged, stolen, destroyed by various means such as fires, floods, etc... So the Bazillion becomes a bathousand over time. Meanwhile, the public becomes safer by increments since you're not able to log on and buy them.

You can replicate the model with things such as the AR15, AK47, etc.. and you're not diminishing the rights under the 2nd amendment at all.

Meanwhile, what you do is place armed guards in schools--men and women trained in aggressive deterence. At no point do you put guns in the hands of teachers or students. Thats batshit crazy.

Human behavior isn't going to change anytime soon but if you took everyone who can't swim and kept them away from water, you'd have fewer drowning deaths. If you stem the tide of guns, eventually, you'll have fewer on the streets.

It's not politics; it's logistics.

 

[P@triot]

You are asking the wrong question.
The right question is what has changed in out society that produces this result?
So what is making this happen?
Have availability of guns changed?...no.dude yes it has
So what has changed?
The answer to that - is the solution.

New polls suggest elementary school shootings may be changing public opinion – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs


you have lost the people

Really? A left wing site polling left wing idiots thinks that the 2nd Amendment has "lost the people"? Shocking!

You're one of those people who believes if you wish it and you say it, it will happen...

 

[Defiant1]

You are asking the wrong question.
The right question is what has changed in out society that produces this result?
So what is making this happen?
Have availability of guns changed?...no.dude yes it has
So what has changed?
The answer to that - is the solution.

New polls suggest elementary school shootings may be changing public opinion – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs


you have lost the people

Oh please. A bunch of load-mouthed Northeast liberals ranting and pissing in their panties isn't public opinion.

 

[P@triot]

that is an NRA lie

It's a FACT and you know it (which is why you have nothing to support your lie with - hence the short post).

 

[Truthmatters]

No its not fact.

Prove it if you claim it is

 

[SniperFire]

What is the answer?

Something, or nothing? If something, what?

Gun control will work in the long term. What will happen is the same thing that happened with cigarettes. The use has declined over the decades since we started placing warnings on them, society has placed burdens on smokers, the health risks have been highlighted and we've taxed the holy you-know-what out of them.

They are still available but much less front-and-center than they used to be.

It takes an incrediby long time to do this but in the end, it is worth every minute spent.

What you do is make the high volumes cartridges harder to get via mail order, place a surtax on them to make them cost prohibitive, and manufacturers sell less of them. So less are made. It is supply and demand.

Lets say that we have a bazillion of these clips out there. Over time, they wear out, get damaged, stolen, destroyed by various means such as fires, floods, etc... So the Bazillion becomes a bathousand over time. Meanwhile, the public becomes safer by increments since you're not able to log on and buy them.

You can replicate the model with things such as the AR15, AK47, etc.. and you're not diminishing the rights under the 2nd amendment at all.

Meanwhile, what you do is place armed guards in schools--men and women trained in aggressive deterence. At no point do you put guns in the hands of teachers or students. Thats batshit crazy.

Human behavior isn't going to change anytime soon but if you took everyone who can't swim and kept them away from water, you'd have fewer drowning deaths. If you stem the tide of guns, eventually, you'll have fewer on the streets.

It's not politics; it's logistics.

ahh. The Stalinist logic.

 

[spectrumc01]

IT'S NOT ABOUT GUNS.

The discussion needs to go to where it belongs. Crazy people. Look at all the mass killings of the last decade or more and mental illness has been at the root of the majority of them. If we keep the discussion on guns, we all lose.

 

[Truthmatters]

You are asking the wrong question.
The right question is what has changed in out society that produces this result?
So what is making this happen?
Have availability of guns changed?...no.dude yes it has
So what has changed?
The answer to that - is the solution.

New polls suggest elementary school shootings may be changing public opinion – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs


you have lost the people

Oh please. A bunch of load-mouthed Northeast liberals ranting and pissing in their panties isn't public opinion.

you have lost the debate.

see ya