If gun control isn't the answer, what is?

[SniperFire]

IT'S NOT ABOUT GUNS.

The discussion needs to go to where it belongs. Crazy people. Look at all the mass killings of the last decade or more and mental illness has been at the root of the majority of them. If we keep the discussion on guns, we all lose.

This is truth.

 

[Truthmatters]

IT'S NOT ABOUT GUNS.

The discussion needs to go to where it belongs. Crazy people. Look at all the mass killings of the last decade or more and mental illness has been at the root of the majority of them. If we keep the discussion on guns, we all lose.

and we can ban some guns and require health care for all.

 

[P@triot]

By the way liberals, how is that Chicago gun ban working out for you, where kids are being slaughtered every 3 minutes?

Pretty much shows the ugly racism of the dumbocrats, doesn't it? 20 black kids die every week in Chicago, and they couldn't give a fuck. But 20 white kids die in Connecticut and the left goes into an absolute tizzy...

 

[SniperFire]

By the way liberals, how is that Chicago gun ban working out for you, where kids are being slaughtered every 3 minutes?

Pretty much shows the ugly racism of the dumbocrats, doesn't it? 20 black kids die every week in Chicago, and they couldn't give a fuck. But 20 white kids die in Connecticut and the left goes into an absolute tizzy...

They won't go there.

 

[ba1614]

By the way liberals, how is that Chicago gun ban working out for you, where kids are being slaughtered every 3 minutes?

Pretty much shows the ugly racism of the dumbocrats, doesn't it? 20 black kids die every week in Chicago, and they couldn't give a fuck. But 20 white kids die in Connecticut and the left goes into an absolute tizzy...

Obummer is doing his best to turn America into the same kind of hole that he helped create in Illinois.

 

[P@triot]

IT'S NOT ABOUT GUNS.

The discussion needs to go to where it belongs. Crazy people. Look at all the mass killings of the last decade or more and mental illness has been at the root of the majority of them. If we keep the discussion on guns, we all lose.

and we can ban some guns and require health care for all.

You're desperation is comical. Guns aren't going anywhere. The American people have spoken and they granted the NRA more power than they have Obama (hence the reason even the White House is running from this issue)

 

[LeftofLeft]

Teach our children love and respect,hope for the best.

Dogs do what dogs do.

Teach your children accountability. When parents are repeatedly called to the carpet about their darling's behavior, their first response should not be "Yes, but"

 

[P@triot]

No its not fact.

Prove it if you claim it is

Straight from the F.B.I. you lying little bitch....

FBI — FBI Releases Preliminary Annual Crime Statistics for 2011

FBI — Crimes Rates Are Down

 

[Gadawg73]

What is the answer?

Something, or nothing? If something, what?

Gun control will work in the long term. What will happen is the same thing that happened with cigarettes. The use has declined over the decades since we started placing warnings on them, society has placed burdens on smokers, the health risks have been highlighted and we've taxed the holy you-know-what out of them.

They are still available but much less front-and-center than they used to be.

It takes an incrediby long time to do this but in the end, it is worth every minute spent.

What you do is make the high volumes cartridges harder to get via mail order, place a surtax on them to make them cost prohibitive, and manufacturers sell less of them. So less are made. It is supply and demand.

Lets say that we have a bazillion of these clips out there. Over time, they wear out, get damaged, stolen, destroyed by various means such as fires, floods, etc... So the Bazillion becomes a bathousand over time. Meanwhile, the public becomes safer by increments since you're not able to log on and buy them.

You can replicate the model with things such as the AR15, AK47, etc.. and you're not diminishing the rights under the 2nd amendment at all.

Meanwhile, what you do is place armed guards in schools--men and women trained in aggressive deterence. At no point do you put guns in the hands of teachers or students. Thats batshit crazy.

Human behavior isn't going to change anytime soon but if you took everyone who can't swim and kept them away from water, you'd have fewer drowning deaths. If you stem the tide of guns, eventually, you'll have fewer on the streets.

It's not politics; it's logistics.

Banning guns for law abiding citizens, 99.9% of gun owners, is bat shit crazy.
Then the criminals and government are the only folks that have the guns.

 

[The Rabbi]

What is the answer?

Something, or nothing? If something, what?

Gun control will work in the long term. What will happen is the same thing that happened with cigarettes. The use has declined over the decades since we started placing warnings on them, society has placed burdens on smokers, the health risks have been highlighted and we've taxed the holy you-know-what out of them.

They are still available but much less front-and-center than they used to be.

It takes an incrediby long time to do this but in the end, it is worth every minute spent.

What you do is make the high volumes cartridges harder to get via mail order, place a surtax on them to make them cost prohibitive, and manufacturers sell less of them. So less are made. It is supply and demand.

Lets say that we have a bazillion of these clips out there. Over time, they wear out, get damaged, stolen, destroyed by various means such as fires, floods, etc... So the Bazillion becomes a bathousand over time. Meanwhile, the public becomes safer by increments since you're not able to log on and buy them.

You can replicate the model with things such as the AR15, AK47, etc.. and you're not diminishing the rights under the 2nd amendment at all.

Meanwhile, what you do is place armed guards in schools--men and women trained in aggressive deterence. At no point do you put guns in the hands of teachers or students. Thats batshit crazy.

Human behavior isn't going to change anytime soon but if you took everyone who can't swim and kept them away from water, you'd have fewer drowning deaths. If you stem the tide of guns, eventually, you'll have fewer on the streets.

It's not politics; it's logistics.

I've known people who have been shooting for 50 years and they are healthy as a horse. I dont know too many people who have smoked for 50 years and are in great shape. So your analogy is a fail.

Second magazines and firearms have a service life of 100 years or more if maintained properly. So by the time your analysis "works" our great grandchildren will be long dead. Another fail.
Third, producing firearms and magazines is not rocket science. Anyone with high school experience in a machine shop can do this. So there will always be supplies of new guns and magazines. Another fail.

The only thing batshit crazy is the idea that you can restrict legal items from people who don't obey the laws.

 

[Dick Tuck]

Teach our children love and respect,hope for the best.

Dogs do what dogs do.

So what do you do about gun nut loon parents that teach their kids irrational paranoia?

 

[Jarhead]

Teach our children love and respect,hope for the best.

Dogs do what dogs do.

So what do you do about gun nut loon parents that teach their kids irrational paranoia?

You teach those parents that not all business owners are evil greedy people...and that most are decent human beings..... and entering the worlkplace with an attitude of enthusiasm and dedication will likely result in a long term career filled with promotions and personal success.

And hopefully they will pass it on to their children

Oh..sorry...you were talking about "gun nut loon parents"...I thought you were talking about your typical everyday paranoid parents.

 

[healthmyths]

What is the answer?

Something, or nothing? If something, what?

You could have a cop on every corner, in every class room and there would be SOMEONE somewhere attempting to mimic prior events.

Behavior modification is the ONLY way to REDUCE these events.

All the shooters in prior events had mental problems.
From NOW on if ANY laws are to be changed it should be those restricting these people's behavior!

But BANNING GUNS is a finger in the dike solution! It will happen again because CT had one of the strictest gun laws in the nation!

 

[Truthmatters]

then we need to make them stricter than that states laws in a blanket law over teh entire country

 

[ba1614]

IT'S NOT ABOUT GUNS.

The discussion needs to go to where it belongs. Crazy people. Look at all the mass killings of the last decade or more and mental illness has been at the root of the majority of them. If we keep the discussion on guns, we all lose.

and we can ban some guns and require health care for all.

You're desperation is comical. Guns aren't going anywhere. The American people have spoken and they granted the NRA more power than they have Obama (hence the reason even the White House is running from this issue)

It's indicative of how these progressives think though. In their irrational thinking it's perfectly ok for us to be forced to purchase a product from a private company, and to give up our 2nd amendment too.

The constitution means nothing to these treasonous bastards.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I proposed the solution, none of the people who are anti-gun control would sign on.

Pass a federal law requiring all public accommodations private and government, to have at least one armed guard, more depending on the size of the place,

businesses would be required to fund this themselves, government buildings would be funded by a federal tax.

You want more security without more gun control? That is how you get it. You pay for it.

 

[SniperFire]

The question actually is 'How does the state stop the evil that men do?'


Good luck with that one.

 

[Katzndogz]

We can pass a law that mandates sanity. Or legislates away evil.

Good luck with that one.

 

[Truthmatters]

I proposed the solution, none of the people who are anti-gun control would sign on.

Pass a federal law requiring all public accommodations private and government, to have at least one armed guard, more depending on the size of the place,

businesses would be required to fund this themselves, government buildings would be funded by a federal tax.

You want more security without more gun control? That is how you get it. You pay for it.

they dont want answers.

they want us to just get used to the "collateral" damage their worship brings this country

 

[SniperFire]

I proposed the solution, none of the people who are anti-gun control would sign on.

Pass a federal law requiring all public accommodations private and government, to have at least one armed guard, more depending on the size of the place,

businesses would be required to fund this themselves, government buildings would be funded by a federal tax.

You want more security without more gun control? That is how you get it. You pay for it.

they dont want answers.

they want us to just get used to the "collateral" damage their worship brings this country

Libtards proposing 'answers' to problems.

Good one!

LOL