"I Have Black/White/Hispanic/Asian Friends"

[Correll]

Nice post SweetSue. I believe that you are not a racist - IF this is true:

If you TRULY have friendships with people of different races and beliefs, than what better evidence is there for you being what Leftists used to value: tolerant, diverse and loving? If you share their struggles and listen to their stories and invite them into your homes and share their lives and seek to understand them, as friends do, and you love and value them as complete individuals, including their race, how can you possibly be racist?​

The problem is, that many people will say these things - but the reality is that they don't know ANY black or brown people very well, yet alone hang out with them and share what one might call an actual friendship as you describe. "I'm not a racist - some of my best friends are (fill in the blank)" is often an indication that someone just MIGHT be making it up.

That sounds like bullshit. You have anything to back that up?

Oh, a Godwin, Well that certainly makes you look like a reasonable person.


lol!!!!


Tell you what. YOu show me a picture of someone wearing a NAZI ARMBAND, (not on Halloween) and I'll believe you if you call them a nazi.


Otherwise, attack their argument, and not them, you intellectual coward.

 

[OldLady]

It is said this is not a defense against racism.

I reject that. In most cases, if you have true friends of other races, you're not racist. And don't let anyone tell you differently.

For a certain set, there IS no defense against racism. You are racist. You are racist even if you don't THINK you're racist. You are racist even if you are white and married a black man and freely chose to make your children with this man. For that set, you are white and racist and there is no escaping it.

Reject this garbage.

If you TRULY have friendships with people of different races and beliefs, than what better evidence is there for you being what Leftists used to value: tolerant, diverse and loving? If you share their struggles and listen to their stories and invite them into your homes and share their lives and seek to understand them, as friends do, and you love and value them as complete individuals, including their race, how can you possibly be racist?

But of course that's not good enough now. If you have friendships with people of different values and beliefs, you must also be Down For Their Struggle. And maybe not just THEIR struggle, meaning them as individuals, but every race struggle the Powers That Be want to impose on them. IOW, you are not just you and your friend is not just your friend. But you are White and your friend is Black and that must be overlaid with all the meaning THEY want to lay on it.

Check your heart. And if it doesn't describe you, reject it. Then maybe we can finally move forward.

"Leftists ." That is all I needed to read.

Coward.

I don't think so, Correll. It was a thoughtful post until that cardboard cut out had to enter. The boogey man does not live under your bed or mine.

No, liberals sully their own bed. Lately, with Identity Politics. They soil their beds so fouly that they then must change names and, when they run out of arguments--which happens a lot--they cry about the new name you're not using. Like "progressive".

Here's a hat tip: stop soiling your own bed. If you cannot, you have the wrong worldview, so get out, like I did. It's not that difficult, really. Twenty years for me and counting.

Most folks just want to get along, Sue, and see each other treated fairly. They listen to each other and are not afraid to hear what's wrong or what others perceive to be wrong. That's the libs I know.

 

[Erinwltr]

Nice post SweetSue. I believe that you are not a racist - IF this is true:

If you TRULY have friendships with people of different races and beliefs, than what better evidence is there for you being what Leftists used to value: tolerant, diverse and loving? If you share their struggles and listen to their stories and invite them into your homes and share their lives and seek to understand them, as friends do, and you love and value them as complete individuals, including their race, how can you possibly be racist?​

The problem is, that many people will say these things - but the reality is that they don't know ANY black or brown people very well, yet alone hang out with them and share what one might call an actual friendship as you describe. "I'm not a racist - some of my best friends are (fill in the blank)" is often an indication that someone just MIGHT be making it up.

" invite them into your homes and share their lives and seek to understand them."

It is said this is not a defense against racism.

I reject that. In most cases, if you have true friends of other races, you're not racist. And don't let anyone tell you differently.

For a certain set, there IS no defense against racism. You are racist. You are racist even if you don't THINK you're racist. You are racist even if you are white and married a black man and freely chose to make your children with this man. For that set, you are white and racist and there is no escaping it.

Reject this garbage.

If you TRULY have friendships with people of different races and beliefs, than what better evidence is there for you being what Leftists used to value: tolerant, diverse and loving? If you share their struggles and listen to their stories and invite them into your homes and share their lives and seek to understand them, as friends do, and you love and value them as complete individuals, including their race, how can you possibly be racist?

But of course that's not good enough now. If you have friendships with people of different values and beliefs, you must also be Down For Their Struggle. And maybe not just THEIR struggle, meaning them as individuals, but every race struggle the Powers That Be want to impose on them. IOW, you are not just you and your friend is not just your friend. But you are White and your friend is Black and that must be overlaid with all the meaning THEY want to lay on it.

Check your heart. And if it doesn't describe you, reject it. Then maybe we can finally move forward.

"Leftists ." That is all I needed to read.

Coward.

I don't think so, Correll. It was a thoughtful post until that cardboard cut out had to enter. The boogey man does not live under your bed or mine.

No, liberals sully their own bed. Lately, with Identity Politics. They soil their beds so fouly that they then must change names and, when they run out of arguments--which happens a lot--they cry about the new name you're not using. Like "progressive".

Here's a hat tip: stop soiling your own bed. If you cannot, you have the wrong worldview, so get out, like I did. It's not that difficult, really. Twenty years for me and counting.

Most folks just want to get along, Sue, and see each other treated fairly. They listen to each other and are not afraid to hear what's wrong or what others perceive to be wrong. That's the libs I know.

Are you a Lib, OL?

 

[DrLove]

The right supports the freedom to be left alone.

Oh REALLY? Then why don't you truly leave people alone:

Allow them to make individual choices with regards to their own bodies
Stop telling states (see California) what their policy will be regarding the environment
Death with Dignity (right to die if criteria met - see Oregon) is an immoral policy
We'll cut off funding unless you eliminate "sanctuary cities" and will send in federal stormtroopers to scoop them up
I don't care you made marijuana legal - good people don't smoke it - I may come in and shut down your shops and burn your plants (Sessions)
Niqabs and burkas are unAmerican and make you look like a terrorist or bank robber - Let's do what France did and ban them

Ad nauseam

The reality is, conservatives only want to leave people alone when they don't offend you..

 

[OldLady]

It is said this is not a defense against racism.

I reject that. In most cases, if you have true friends of other races, you're not racist. And don't let anyone tell you differently.

For a certain set, there IS no defense against racism. You are racist. You are racist even if you don't THINK you're racist. You are racist even if you are white and married a black man and freely chose to make your children with this man. For that set, you are white and racist and there is no escaping it.

Reject this garbage.

If you TRULY have friendships with people of different races and beliefs, than what better evidence is there for you being what Leftists used to value: tolerant, diverse and loving? If you share their struggles and listen to their stories and invite them into your homes and share their lives and seek to understand them, as friends do, and you love and value them as complete individuals, including their race, how can you possibly be racist?

But of course that's not good enough now. If you have friendships with people of different values and beliefs, you must also be Down For Their Struggle. And maybe not just THEIR struggle, meaning them as individuals, but every race struggle the Powers That Be want to impose on them. IOW, you are not just you and your friend is not just your friend. But you are White and your friend is Black and that must be overlaid with all the meaning THEY want to lay on it.

Check your heart. And if it doesn't describe you, reject it. Then maybe we can finally move forward.

"Leftists ." That is all I needed to read.

Coward.

I don't think so, Correll. It was a thoughtful post until that cardboard cut out had to enter. The boogey man does not live under your bed or mine.

No, liberals sully their own bed. Lately, with Identity Politics. They soil their beds so fouly that they then must change names and, when they run out of arguments--which happens a lot--they cry about the new name you're not using. Like "progressive".

Here's a hat tip: stop soiling your own bed. If you cannot, you have the wrong worldview, so get out, like I did. It's not that difficult, really. Twenty years for me and counting.

Where are you from? Your sentence structure is odd.

Minnesota, maybe?

 

[harmonica]

Black Supremacy is what people like you are really after. Blacks murder, rape, commit slavery and sex trafficking all the time and are so antisocial that they harp on "white" people. It may come as a surprise that a few African Americans on this board have good relations with everyone including the "white" people on this board. I have spent some time around some people from Africa and they are of good nature and so not keep dwelling in the negative. The Blacks in the United States have a broken movement because they cannot love in the present and instead love in a past so long ago. Many nations and races have had hardships in the last 100 years that are more recent than slavery. Guess what- I am not your average "white".

All people of all races murder, rape, commit slavery and sex trafficking sadly. I try to take people on an individual level, though I understand that culture and socioeconomic background plays into your personal makeup. Still, we are made in the image of God. We are able to be many things at many times. We are individuals.

...but blacks do it at so much higher numbers that it is clear their culture is ''different''/self destructive/something/etc

 

[Correll]

The right supports the freedom to be left alone.

Oh REALLY? Then why don't you truly leave people alone:

Allow them to make individual choices with regards to their own bodies....

Your choice to phrase the issue as though there is no other way to see it, shows how closed minded you are.


My point stands, loser. The Right supports the Freedom to be left Alone.

 

[DrLove]

Oh, a Godwin, Well that certainly makes you look like a reasonable person.
lol!!!
Tell you what. YOu show me a picture of someone wearing a NAZI ARMBAND, (not on Halloween) and I'll believe you if you call them a nazi.
Otherwise, attack their argument, and not them, you intellectual coward.

1. Normal people do not dress up as Nazis for Halloween
2. You are an intellectual lightweight

 

[Erinwltr]

Oh, a Godwin, Well that certainly makes you look like a reasonable person.
lol!!!
Tell you what. YOu show me a picture of someone wearing a NAZI ARMBAND, (not on Halloween) and I'll believe you if you call them a nazi.
Otherwise, attack their argument, and not them, you intellectual coward.

Normal people do not dress up as Nazis for Halloween
You are an intellectual lightweight

Damn, that is weird.

 

[DrLove]

This is liberals projecting in almost all cases.

I don't think so - If you claim that some of your best friends are black, then I'll believe you when I come to your house for a Christmas party and you've invited more than one black person.

 

[Correll]

Oh, a Godwin, Well that certainly makes you look like a reasonable person.
lol!!!
Tell you what. YOu show me a picture of someone wearing a NAZI ARMBAND, (not on Halloween) and I'll believe you if you call them a nazi.
Otherwise, attack their argument, and not them, you intellectual coward.

Normal people do not dress up as Nazis for Halloween
You are an intellectual lightweight

So, you can't give up marginalizing people, over their Halloween costumes?


Wow. That is hilarious.


Loser.

 

[JakeStarkey]

some of my best friends are sweet sue 92s

I think this was supposed to be offensive but you have no idea how far it misses the mark.

Try, "some of my best friends are white Christian midwest teachers". So? I'm still not offended. Good for you. If I don't know you, I probably don't care. But still, good for you.

You miss the point if you think I was trying to offend you. You made my point. Thank you.

 

[Erinwltr]

Oh, a Godwin, Well that certainly makes you look like a reasonable person.
lol!!!
Tell you what. YOu show me a picture of someone wearing a NAZI ARMBAND, (not on Halloween) and I'll believe you if you call them a nazi.
Otherwise, attack their argument, and not them, you intellectual coward.

Normal people do not dress up as Nazis for Halloween
You are an intellectual lightweight

So, you can't give up marginalizing people, over their Halloween costumes?


Wow. That is hilarious.


Loser.

You actually do well until you start calling folks names. I mean, really, what the fuck is your problem?

 

[Erinwltr]

It is said this is not a defense against racism.

I reject that. In most cases, if you have true friends of other races, you're not racist. And don't let anyone tell you differently.

For a certain set, there IS no defense against racism. You are racist. You are racist even if you don't THINK you're racist. You are racist even if you are white and married a black man and freely chose to make your children with this man. For that set, you are white and racist and there is no escaping it.

Reject this garbage.

If you TRULY have friendships with people of different races and beliefs, than what better evidence is there for you being what Leftists used to value: tolerant, diverse and loving? If you share their struggles and listen to their stories and invite them into your homes and share their lives and seek to understand them, as friends do, and you love and value them as complete individuals, including their race, how can you possibly be racist?

But of course that's not good enough now. If you have friendships with people of different values and beliefs, you must also be Down For Their Struggle. And maybe not just THEIR struggle, meaning them as individuals, but every race struggle the Powers That Be want to impose on them. IOW, you are not just you and your friend is not just your friend. But you are White and your friend is Black and that must be overlaid with all the meaning THEY want to lay on it.

Check your heart. And if it doesn't describe you, reject it. Then maybe we can finally move forward.

"Leftists ." That is all I needed to read.

Coward.

I don't think so, Correll. It was a thoughtful post until that cardboard cut out had to enter. The boogey man does not live under your bed or mine.

Dayum! Do you have a Judge Judy channel that you are going to show case OL? I'm in all the way!

 

[DrLove]

So, you can't give up marginalizing people, over their Halloween costumes?
Wow. That is hilarious.
Loser.

Trick-or-treating in Correll's neighborhood

 

[Erinwltr]

So, you can't give up marginalizing people, over their Halloween costumes?
Wow. That is hilarious.
Loser.

Correll sends his child out trick-or-treating

That's really fucked up. And no doubt, Correll digs it. SMH.

 

[OldLady]

It is said this is not a defense against racism.

I reject that. In most cases, if you have true friends of other races, you're not racist. And don't let anyone tell you differently.

For a certain set, there IS no defense against racism. You are racist. You are racist even if you don't THINK you're racist. You are racist even if you are white and married a black man and freely chose to make your children with this man. For that set, you are white and racist and there is no escaping it.

Reject this garbage.

If you TRULY have friendships with people of different races and beliefs, than what better evidence is there for you being what Leftists used to value: tolerant, diverse and loving? If you share their struggles and listen to their stories and invite them into your homes and share their lives and seek to understand them, as friends do, and you love and value them as complete individuals, including their race, how can you possibly be racist?

But of course that's not good enough now. If you have friendships with people of different values and beliefs, you must also be Down For Their Struggle. And maybe not just THEIR struggle, meaning them as individuals, but every race struggle the Powers That Be want to impose on them. IOW, you are not just you and your friend is not just your friend. But you are White and your friend is Black and that must be overlaid with all the meaning THEY want to lay on it.

Check your heart. And if it doesn't describe you, reject it. Then maybe we can finally move forward.

"Leftists ." That is all I needed to read.

Coward.

I don't think so, Correll. It was a thoughtful post until that cardboard cut out had to enter. The boogey man does not live under your bed or mine.

If you are referring to how the Left demands active support from people or condemns them,

you are correct, That does not live under our beds. It is in our face in society.


That is a part of the difference between right and left.

The right supports the freedom to be left alone.

The left demands you support the proper causes or you are a bad person and need to be marginalized.

I thought the midwest was "Trump country." You seem to be surrounded by extremists. I work with libs here and some would call themselves progressives, but they roll their eyes and allow me to have my more moderate views on Trump and the world. It's called respect for one another.

 

[DrLove]

So, you can't give up marginalizing people, over their Halloween costumes?
Wow. That is hilarious.
Loser.

Correll sends his child out trick-or-treating

That's really fucked up. And no doubt, Correll digs it. SMH.

Now be nice - don't "marginalize" Nazi trick-or-treaters.

 

[Correll]

Oh, a Godwin, Well that certainly makes you look like a reasonable person.
lol!!!
Tell you what. YOu show me a picture of someone wearing a NAZI ARMBAND, (not on Halloween) and I'll believe you if you call them a nazi.
Otherwise, attack their argument, and not them, you intellectual coward.

Normal people do not dress up as Nazis for Halloween
You are an intellectual lightweight

So, you can't give up marginalizing people, over their Halloween costumes?


Wow. That is hilarious.


Loser.

You actually do well until you start calling folks names. I mean, really, what the fuck is your problem?

Oh, it is a rule I have, well more of a guideline to not let a personal insult from a lib, go unanswered.


I believe that a lot of our current situation was caused by overly refined, and civil Establishment republicans, not responding to such slings and arrows.

They thought they were above that.


What it meant was that they allowed their enemies to define them in the Conventional Wisdom.


It is a form of Logical Fallacy used as propaganda.



So, Dr Love called me an intellectual lightweight and I called him a loser.


I try to gauge my insult based on what they do.


My default is civility of course.

 

[OldLady]

Nice post SweetSue. I believe that you are not a racist - IF this is true:

If you TRULY have friendships with people of different races and beliefs, than what better evidence is there for you being what Leftists used to value: tolerant, diverse and loving? If you share their struggles and listen to their stories and invite them into your homes and share their lives and seek to understand them, as friends do, and you love and value them as complete individuals, including their race, how can you possibly be racist?​

The problem is, that many people will say these things - but the reality is that they don't know ANY black or brown people very well, yet alone hang out with them and share what one might call an actual friendship as you describe. "I'm not a racist - some of my best friends are (fill in the blank)" is often an indication that someone just MIGHT be making it up.

" invite them into your homes and share their lives and seek to understand them."

"Leftists ." That is all I needed to read.

Coward.

I don't think so, Correll. It was a thoughtful post until that cardboard cut out had to enter. The boogey man does not live under your bed or mine.

No, liberals sully their own bed. Lately, with Identity Politics. They soil their beds so fouly that they then must change names and, when they run out of arguments--which happens a lot--they cry about the new name you're not using. Like "progressive".

Here's a hat tip: stop soiling your own bed. If you cannot, you have the wrong worldview, so get out, like I did. It's not that difficult, really. Twenty years for me and counting.

Most folks just want to get along, Sue, and see each other treated fairly. They listen to each other and are not afraid to hear what's wrong or what others perceive to be wrong. That's the libs I know.

Are you a Lib, OL?

The folks around here insist I am. I don't really put myself in a pigeon hole.