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So....anyone who was sexually abused as a child became homosexual. or 90% did. or 80% did. or 70% did.Nobody knows, the numbers are likely much higher than quoted. All we can do is go by the study.
It is a well-documented fact that many many homosexuals were sexually abused when young... In other words, there is an abundance of evidence that many many homosexuals were born heterosexual but were disoriented by sexual abuse.
In 1999, Dr. Jeffrey Satinover, M.D. wrote the following regarding the position of sexual abuse being a contributing factor for homosexuality: Many studies demonstrate a sadly disproportionate extent of sexual abuse in the childhoods of homosexual men, suggesting at the least that both homosexual unhappiness and homosexuality itself derive from common causes...[30]
In 2001, the journal Archives of Sexual Behavior published a study entitled Comparative data of childhood and adolescence molestation in heterosexual and homosexual persons. The abstract for this article states the following: In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and lesbian women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood molestation than did heterosexual men and women. Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation. Twenty-two percent of lesbian women in contrast to 1% of heterosexual women reported homosexual molestation. This research is apparently the first survey that has reported substantial homosexual molestation of girls.
In 1998, Dr. William C. Holmes, M.D. and Dr. Gail B. Slap, M.D. reported in the medical journal JAMA the following:
Adolescent boys, particularly those victimized by males, were up to 7 times more likely to identify themselves as homosexual or bisexual than peers who had not been abused "
sexuality - Does sexual abuse lead to homosexuality? - Skeptics Stack Exchange
BODECEA :Why? Isn't the study you linked complete? Seems to me, you've posted a fail thread.
Her argument however remains valid - yet you gays and gay sympathizers insist on harping on that single barely relevant flaw - the link she posted. Can anybody refute the premise of the argument - No ! of course not - Koshergirl Wins ! Case Closed
Adolescent boys, particularly those victimized by males, were up to 7 times more likely to identify themselves as homosexual or bisexual than peers who had not been abused "
Tell us...what percentage of children sexually abused as children became homosexual?
Ahhhh..relief:
EDIT:
Certainly right wing trolls such as yourself enjoy the Ignore Feature as the coward's way out of facing their idiocy.
Read my post and see what everyone's telling you.
You should have read the source you quoted instead of thinking it backed your premise.
lol...you debunked yourself.
You're not very smart, are you? You find this silly thing to prove a point, probably that them dere queers ain't borned homersexual...
yet the piece you cite actually debunks the study!
more...
The bottom line is that the study should not be cited until a follow up correction can be made. The main results gays report more abuse than straights may indeed be correct, given the similarity to past studies. However, I do not believe any inferences about causation should be made. Without the actual surveys, there is no way a reader can figure out the results from the journal article and/or the dissertation.
One final thought, the research on sexual abuse among GLBT populations is often misused to make inferences about causation. There are many reasons why this line of research is important but causation is not at the top. Sexual abuse is a profoundly disruptive experience for many people and may contribute to a variety of negative outcomes in adulthood. Finding appropriate clinical and ministry responses may be clouded by focusing on the trauma as a cause of same-sex attraction.
Ahhhh..relief:
EDIT:
Certainly right wing trolls such as yourself enjoy the Ignore Feature as the coward's way out of facing their idiocy.
Read my post and see what everyone's telling you.
You should have read the source you quoted instead of thinking it backed your premise.
lol...you debunked yourself.
You're not very smart, are you? You find this silly thing to prove a point, probably that them dere queers ain't borned homersexual...
yet the piece you cite actually debunks the study!
more...
The Premise of her Assertion is correct - you weak minded twits can't seem to grasp that can you , Truth must really hurt - no matter how many times you are refuted you claw and hang on to that last thread that you hope will somehow miraculously change reality and bring about delusional illusion you prey for - and yes that is PREY not PRAY
Your 'major study' is on an evangelical site. And the article cites this major study on its' own site. That's like saying the Bible's true because it says it is.
Evangelicals don't accept science for the most part. Least not in public. So why should we accept a study as science if evangelicals accept it? More likely it's a denounced study in actual scientific circles and only pseudo-science evangelicals mistake as science not knowing any better.
Googling,
Tomeo, M. E., Templer, D. L., Anderson, S., & Kotler, D. (2001)
I'm not surprised to see it come up on just conservative gay-basher sorta sites and no peer-reviewed, non-partisan scientific ones.
I'm surprised people bother trying to pereptuate these kinds of frauds any more when fact-checking only takes seconds.
Certainly right wing trolls such as yourself enjoy the Ignore Feature as the coward's way out of facing their idiocy.
Read my post and see what everyone's telling you.
You should have read the source you quoted instead of thinking it backed your premise.
lol...you debunked yourself.
The Premise of her Assertion is correct - you weak minded twits can't seem to grasp that can you , Truth must really hurt - no matter how many times you are refuted you claw and hang on to that last thread that you hope will somehow miraculously change reality and bring about delusional illusion you prey for - and yes that is PREY not PRAY
No it is not.
The only thing that was proven is children are molested gay or straight.
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The Premise of her Assertion is correct - you weak minded twits can't seem to grasp that can you , Truth must really hurt - no matter how many times you are refuted you claw and hang on to that last thread that you hope will somehow miraculously change reality and bring about delusional illusion you prey for - and yes that is PREY not PRAY
No it is not.
The only thing that was proven is children are molested gay or straight.
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I just love the way you ignore the facts , someone should do a study to ascertain whether perverts, such as Luissa are deficient in their Mathematical skills in addition to the other known psychosis queers and Dykes are afflicted with. I'll repost the stats. - not for your benefit - you're hopeless - but for anyone else who wanders across this thread.
Gays Comprise 3 - 5% of the Population. Gay men are roughly half of that 3 - 5% - so figure 1.5 to 2.5% of the Pop. are Queer males, yet they are responsible for 30 - 35% of the Child Molestation Cases. Find any problem with those numbers - do you Capice ?
No it is not.
The only thing that was proven is children are molested gay or straight.
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I just love the way you ignore the facts , someone should do a study to ascertain whether perverts, such as Luissa are deficient in their Mathematical skills in addition to the other known psychosis queers and Dykes are afflicted with. I'll repost the stats. - not for your benefit - you're hopeless - but for anyone else who wanders across this thread.
Gays Comprise 3 - 5% of the Population. Gay men are roughly half of that 3 - 5% - so figure 1.5 to 2.5% of the Pop. are Queer males, yet they are responsible for 30 - 35% of the Child Molestation Cases. Find any problem with those numbers - do you Capice ?
You have any links?
What's the problem , you participate in a thread and it's too complicated to scroll back - like I said "Mentally Deficient"
The evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls. To demonstrate this it is necessary to connect several statistics related to the problem of child sex abuse:
1) men are almost always the perpetrator;
2) up to one-third or more of child sex abuse cases are committed against boys;
3) less than three percent of the population are homosexuals. Thus, a tiny percentage of the population (homosexual men), commit one-third or more of the cases of child sexual molestation.
Kee MacFarlane, writing in Sexual Abuse of Young Children: Evaluation and Treatment report: "The large majority of sexual perpetrators appear to be males "
Archives of Sexual Behavior, - 229 convicted child molesters surveyed, “85 percent of offenders against males described themselves as homosexual or bisexual.”
The evidence is clear. Homosexuals have an overwhelming propensity towards child molestation. This is not to say that all homosexuals act out with pedophile tendencies. But the percentage of those who do is so disproportionately high it would be irresponsible and costly to ignore. Just ask the Roman Catholic Church.
Homosexuals and the Pedophile Connection
“It is difficult to convey the dark side of the homosexual culture without appearing harsh,” wrote Baldwin. “However, it is time to acknowledge that homosexual behavior threatens the foundation of Western civilization – the nuclear family "
“The rate of homosexual versus heterosexual child sexual abuse is staggering,” said Reisman, who was the principal investigator for an $800,000 Justice Department grant studying child pornography and violence.
150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender finds no equal (yet) in heterosexual violations of 19.8 girls.”
And your math has holes, that the problem, sorry you don't get that.
For one females are much more likely to be molested. I don't care about your made up numbers.
When you went to school - did you ever study PERCENTAGES - in my school I believe we covered it in the 3rd Grade - but that may too long ago for a narrow minded bigoted pervert such as yourself. PERCENTAGES Asshole Percentage.
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"OH MY GOD!" shrieks Obama, I hope they were Republicans as he buries his head in his hands for a second. Stunned at the unexpected display of emotion, the President's staff sits speechless, not sure how to react. Finally, Obama looks up and asks , "How many is a brazillion?"
Do you want to compare rape?
Okay - so when a faggot molests a little boy - and there is no penetration -I guess queers like you don't consider it Rape? When a Child falls in the Boys Room and there's no heterosexuals to hear to his cries - does he make a sound ?
The only thing they have in common is men. If we use your logic, due to the percentages men should not be trusted and should be assumed to be a molester, rapist, or sexual deviant. Do you capice?
The only thing they have in common is GAY men. If we use your logic, due to the percentages GAY men should not be trusted and should be assumed to be a molester, rapist, or sexual deviant. Do YOU capice?
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So....anyone who was sexually abused as a child became homosexual. or 90% did. or 80% did. or 70% did.It is a well-documented fact that many many homosexuals were sexually abused when young... In other words, there is an abundance of evidence that many many homosexuals were born heterosexual but were disoriented by sexual abuse.
In 1999, Dr. Jeffrey Satinover, M.D. wrote the following regarding the position of sexual abuse being a contributing factor for homosexuality: Many studies demonstrate a sadly disproportionate extent of sexual abuse in the childhoods of homosexual men, suggesting at the least that both homosexual unhappiness and homosexuality itself derive from common causes...[30]
In 2001, the journal Archives of Sexual Behavior published a study entitled Comparative data of childhood and adolescence molestation in heterosexual and homosexual persons. The abstract for this article states the following: In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and lesbian women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood molestation than did heterosexual men and women. Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation. Twenty-two percent of lesbian women in contrast to 1% of heterosexual women reported homosexual molestation. This research is apparently the first survey that has reported substantial homosexual molestation of girls.
In 1998, Dr. William C. Holmes, M.D. and Dr. Gail B. Slap, M.D. reported in the medical journal JAMA the following:
Adolescent boys, particularly those victimized by males, were up to 7 times more likely to identify themselves as homosexual or bisexual than peers who had not been abused "
sexuality - Does sexual abuse lead to homosexuality? - Skeptics Stack Exchange
Her argument however remains valid - yet you gays and gay sympathizers insist on harping on that single barely relevant flaw - the link she posted. Can anybody refute the premise of the argument - No ! of course not - Koshergirl Wins ! Case Closed
Adolescent boys, particularly those victimized by males, were up to 7 times more likely to identify themselves as homosexual or bisexual than peers who had not been abused "
Tell us...what percentage of children sexually abused as children became homosexual?
Bodcea - Obviously it's way over YOUR head
No, the article about the study is on the Patheos site.
The STUDY is out of the California School of Professional Psychology.
You need to learn how to read these heady articles, Delta. They obviously befuddle you.
You sound a little hysterical there, skippy.No, the article about the study is on the Patheos site.
The STUDY is out of the California School of Professional Psychology.
You need to learn how to read these heady articles, Delta. They obviously befuddle you.
the interp of the links is done by an evangelical site, which faith belief itself is a heresy within the Christian community.
The hysteria comes from you, koshergrl.
Yup, your site interps the info in an evangelical format. Evangelicalism and fundamentalism and Pentecostalism are heresies within the broad range of Christian denominations.
Not to worry: heresy means error not apostasy.
Once folks realize that your group is not playing fair with the info, which we have done here, then the conversation continues in a more logical and normal manner.
The hysteria comes from you, koshergrl.
Yup, your site interps the info in an evangelical format. Evangelicalism and fundamentalism and Pentecostalism are heresies within the broad range of Christian denominations.
Not to worry: heresy means error not apostasy.
Once folks realize that your group is not playing fair with the info, which we have done here, then the conversation continues in a more logical and normal manner.
Once again , for you incompetent inept leftist bufoons that attempt to debate against rationality - Obviously your are incapable of refuting the information she presented - it's irrefutable so you insist on clutching at straws and attacking the server from which the information was presented. The site.
The fact that you spin your head and vomit out pea soup when someone brings up a Religious site does not alter the facts - if you're incapable of debating the facts why bother ?
You've already Lost
The substance has been posted for pages now, but you simply don't accept your fail.
I just love the way you ignore the facts , someone should do a study to ascertain whether perverts, such as Luissa are deficient in their Mathematical skills in addition to the other known psychosis queers and Dykes are afflicted with. I'll repost the stats. - not for your benefit - you're hopeless - but for anyone else who wanders across this thread.
Gays Comprise 3 - 5% of the Population. Gay men are roughly half of that 3 - 5% - so figure 1.5 to 2.5% of the Pop. are Queer males, yet they are responsible for 30 - 35% of the Child Molestation Cases. Find any problem with those numbers - do you Capice ?
What's the problem , you participate in a thread and it's too complicated to scroll back - like I said "Mentally Deficient"
The evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls. To demonstrate this it is necessary to connect several statistics related to the problem of child sex abuse:
1) men are almost always the perpetrator;
2) up to one-third or more of child sex abuse cases are committed against boys;
3) less than three percent of the population are homosexuals. Thus, a tiny percentage of the population (homosexual men), commit one-third or more of the cases of child sexual molestation.
Kee MacFarlane, writing in Sexual Abuse of Young Children: Evaluation and Treatment report: "The large majority of sexual perpetrators appear to be males "
Archives of Sexual Behavior, - 229 convicted child molesters surveyed, 85 percent of offenders against males described themselves as homosexual or bisexual.
The evidence is clear. Homosexuals have an overwhelming propensity towards child molestation. This is not to say that all homosexuals act out with pedophile tendencies. But the percentage of those who do is so disproportionately high it would be irresponsible and costly to ignore. Just ask the Roman Catholic Church.
Homosexuals and the Pedophile Connection
It is difficult to convey the dark side of the homosexual culture without appearing harsh, wrote Baldwin. However, it is time to acknowledge that homosexual behavior threatens the foundation of Western civilization the nuclear family "
The rate of homosexual versus heterosexual child sexual abuse is staggering, said Reisman, who was the principal investigator for an $800,000 Justice Department grant studying child pornography and violence.
150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender finds no equal (yet) in heterosexual violations of 19.8 girls.
When you went to school - did you ever study PERCENTAGES - in my school I believe we covered it in the 3rd Grade - but that may too long ago for a narrow minded bigoted pervert such as yourself. PERCENTAGES Asshole Percentage.
Okay - so when a faggot molests a little boy - and there is no penetration -I guess queers like you don't consider it Rape? When a Child falls in the Boys Room and there's no heterosexuals to hear to his cries - does he make a sound ?
The only thing they have in common is GAY men. If we use your logic, due to the percentages GAY men should not be trusted and should be assumed to be a molester, rapist, or sexual deviant. Do YOU capice?
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I Told you b4 - Stay the Fuck away from my Butt !
You posted a link to a messageboard as a source?
And I am not gay, or queer as you like to say, and it shouldn't matter if I was.
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