Hasan.. Muslim Terrorist or Nut

just like all those school and mall shooters I fully expect to hear in both of these shooting incidents that these people were under treatment for depression and all hopped up on psychotropic medications the stuff turns some people totally homicidal and suicidal and even contains such warnings on the label and the advice to.. contact your physician ..if you feel this way...lol...something homicidal people are not likely to do..
 
He was a "sleeper muslim" who was waiting for the right time to kill US soldiers, just like Akbar who threw a grenade in the command post killing his commanders at the start of the Gulf War. It's time to admit that muslims can't be trusted in the military. Its time to admit that they simply can't be assimilated into US society.
 
Muslim Terrorist or Nut or both, that's the only choices..

“He wanted a woman who prayed five times a day and wears a hijab, and maybe the women he met were not complying with those things,” the former imam said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/06/us/06suspect.html?_r=1

IMO, he as all three. Based on his own words, he committed the crimes for being teased about his religion. His crime IS an act of terrorism.

Inconvenient truths, those.:cool:
 
An act of terrorism? By Gunny's understanding, perhaps. But certainly not jihadism. To imply that it was reveals wingnut extremism, which only weakens America.
 
Muslim Terrorist or Nut or both, that's the only choices..

“He wanted a woman who prayed five times a day and wears a hijab, and maybe the women he met were not complying with those things,” the former imam said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/06/us/06suspect.html?_r=1

Aren't all Muslim terrorists nuts? Mass murders of innocent people tend not to be sane, wouldn't you say?

Fry him no matter how "incompetent" he is to stand trial.
 
nut! If he had been a muslim terrorist he would have walked in with a bomb straped to him and blown the place up. This has nutjob written all over it.
It seems to me that he is both, and all such people are.

he might of thought he is was a muslim terrorist but I don't think any terrorist group was telling him what to do. I think he acted alone but that is my opinion and really who knows why the hell this guy did what he did.
 
He was a "sleeper muslim" who was waiting for the right time to kill US soldiers, just like Akbar who threw a grenade in the command post killing his commanders at the start of the Gulf War. It's time to admit that muslims can't be trusted in the military. Its time to admit that they simply can't be assimilated into US society.

What a load of crap

He was a misfit who happened to be Muslim. He was receiving poor performance ratings, had a hard time making Major, was transfered from his cushy job at Walter Reed for Ft Hood Texas and was about to be sent to Afghanistan
 
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I wonder why there's any hesitation on this question. Hasan clearly established a pattern of behavior before this atrocity. He openly stated his views and made no bones about it that it was based on his religious beliefs. He was verbally reprimanded for making statements that we unbecoming of a commissioned officer. That's serious stuff and almost a kiss of death for a commissioned officer, especially if it makes it on paper. And it may have found its way to his performance evaluation.

No doubt in my mind that Hasan was a Muslim terrorist. I'm not saying that he had any connection with any terrorist group nor that he received any orders from any terrorist group. I am saying that his extremist religious views did directly influence his behavior, and the fact that he yelled Allah Akbar makes it perfectly clear that he was justifying his acts by praising Allah.

Muslim terrorist. Period. End of discussion.
 
More shocking revelations about Hasan have come out today. Today's reports indicate that Hasan attended the same Mosque that two of the 911 Hijackers attended. The reports also show that he attended this same Mosque at the same time these two 911 Hijackers did. I believe that this White House is now fully engaged in a large cover-up. They knew about this guy yet did nothing. We deserve answers. However i don't expect to get the truth from this White House. Yea he was just a poor lil stressed out guy who was being picked on and then just snapped. It's everything but Islamic Terrorism according to this White House. This cretin was a Radical Muslim who brutally slaughtered our kids in the name of Islam. End of story.
 
More shocking revelations about Hasan have come out today. Today's reports indicate that Hasan attended the same Mosque that two of the 911 Hijackers attended. The reports also show that he attended this same Mosque at the same time these two 911 Hijackers did. I believe that this White House is now fully engaged in a large cover-up. They knew about this guy yet did nothing. We deserve answers. However i don't expect to get the truth from this White House. Yea he was just a poor lil stressed out guy who was being picked on and then just snapped. It's everything but Islamic Terrorism according to this White House. This cretin was a Radical Muslim who brutally slaughtered our kids in the name of Islam. End of story.

:cuckoo:
 
The "Poor lil stressed out guy" talking point is a mere farce. Now they're saying he suffered from PTSD despite never serving in combat. So now they're even trying to change the definition of that disease. Yup just a poor lil stressed out guy who suffered from PTSD and it definitely had nothing to do with Islam. Wow what a sad sad scam.
 
The "Poor lil stressed out guy" talking point is a mere farce. Now they're saying he suffered from PTSD despite never serving in combat. So now they're even trying to change the definition of that disease. Yup just a poor lil stressed out guy who suffered from PTSD and it definitely had nothing to do with Islam. Wow what a sad sad scam.

Maybe you can sympathy PTSD nowadays, like men getting sympathy pains for their pregnant wives. Oh God, what a world, what a world.....:lol:
 
He was a "sleeper muslim" who was waiting for the right time to kill US soldiers, just like Akbar who threw a grenade in the command post killing his commanders at the start of the Gulf War. It's time to admit that muslims can't be trusted in the military. Its time to admit that they simply can't be assimilated into US society.

What a load of crap

He was a misfit who happened to be Muslim. He was receiving poor performance ratings, had a hard time making Major, was transfered from his cushy job at Walter Reed for Ft Hood Texas and was about to be sent to Afghanistan

Your opinion is way off base as usual...no wonder you couldn't hack it in the military.
 
The "Poor lil stressed out guy" talking point is a mere farce. Now they're saying he suffered from PTSD despite never serving in combat. So now they're even trying to change the definition of that disease. Yup just a poor lil stressed out guy who suffered from PTSD and it definitely had nothing to do with Islam. Wow what a sad sad scam.

Maybe he suffered PTSD from going to the local strip club then seeing what he wasn't getting set him off.
 
Oh I don't know, there are nutbarfruitcakemudfuckers in every religion. (Even the Sengalese Buddists killed Hidnu Tamils in Shri Lanka.)

The word God seems to be the ultimate suicide bomb.
 
Whether they find out he acted alone or was "connected" to the higher ups in al Qaeda, will anything change? If someone in the military or even at Walmart threatens jihad, will the govt do anything? I am not hopeful. The only people who take this seriously are the TSA. And then they get sued.

My guess is they may even tread more lightly for fear of "Muslim backlash" In fact I believe that's the opinion of some of the leftie/terrorism apologists on this board. Youcannot treat acts of terror as a regular "crine" after the fact. That's what happened in 93 and then look what happened in 01.
 
Muslim Terrorist or Nut or both, that's the only choices..

“He wanted a woman who prayed five times a day and wears a hijab, and maybe the women he met were not complying with those things,” the former imam said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/06/us/06suspect.html?_r=1

I don't believe he is a terrorist as I don't think his actions were political. I think he was a simple nutjob that happened to be a Muslim. People do insane shit for all sorts of reasons. Just because in this case it seems to have been the mix of Islam and insanity, doesn't automatically make him a terrorist.

I have yet to see the proof that it indeed was a terrorist act. Btw, I couldn't open the link ... not a NYTimes subscriber.
 
Whether they find out he acted alone or was "connected" to the higher ups in al Qaeda, will anything change? If someone in the military or even at Walmart threatens jihad, will the govt do anything? I am not hopeful. The only people who take this seriously are the TSA. And then they get sued.

My guess is they may even tread more lightly for fear of "Muslim backlash" In fact I believe that's the opinion of some of the leftie/terrorism apologists on this board. Youcannot treat acts of terror as a regular "crine" after the fact. That's what happened in 93 and then look what happened in 01.

I'm sure glad we agree because I just don't believe I could win an argument against you.

I must admit though, I'd like to follow the posts on the poor sap that did.. disagree with you, that is....:lol:
 
Whether part of a larger plot or a lone wolf, the guy was a terrorist. It was known and not acted upon. Why? That is really the question:

washingtonpost.com

Fort Hood suspect warned of threats within the ranks
Cited stress facing Muslims Hasan spoke at Walter Reed in 2007
By Dana Priest
Tuesday, November 10, 2009

The Army psychiatrist believed to have killed 13 people at Fort Hood warned a roomful of senior Army physicians a year and a half ago that to avoid "adverse events," the military should allow Muslim soldiers to be released as conscientious objectors instead of fighting in wars against other Muslims.

As a senior-year psychiatric resident at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, Maj. Nidal M. Hasan was supposed to make a presentation on a medical topic of his choosing as a culminating exercise of the residency program.

Instead, in late June 2007, he stood before his supervisors and about 25 other mental health staff members and lectured on Islam, suicide bombers and threats the military could encounter from Muslims conflicted about fighting in the Muslim countries of Iraq and Afghanistan, according to a copy of the presentation obtained by The Washington Post.

"It's getting harder and harder for Muslims in the service to morally justify being in a military that seems constantly engaged against fellow Muslims," he said in the presentation.

"It was really strange," said one staff member who attended the presentation and spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the investigation of Hasan. "The senior doctors looked really upset" at the end. These medical presentations occurred each Wednesday afternoon, and other students had lectured on new medications and treatment of specific mental illnesses.

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...The title of Hasan's PowerPoint presentation was "The Koranic World View As It Relates to Muslims in the U.S. Military." It consisted of 50 slides. In one slide, Hasan described the presentation's objectives as identifying "what the Koran inculcates in the minds of Muslims and the potential implications this may have for the U.S. military."

He also sought to "describe the nature of the religious conflicts that Muslims" who serve in the U.S. military may have and to persuade the Army to identify these individuals.

Other slides delved into the history of Islam, its tenets, statistics about the number of Muslims in the military, and explanations of "offensive jihad," or holy war.

Another slide suggested ways to draw out Muslim troops: "It must be hard for you to balance Islamic beliefs that might be conflicting with current war; feelings of guilt; Is it what you expected."

Hasan's presentation lasted about an hour. It is unclear whether he read out loud every point on each slide. If typical procedures were followed, his adviser would have supervised the development of his project, said people familiar with the practice.

The final three slides indicate that Hasan referred to Osama bin Laden, the Taliban, suicide bombers and Iran.

Under a slide titled "Comments," he wrote: "If Muslim groups can convince Muslims that they are fighting for God against injustices of the 'infidels'; ie: enemies of Islam, then Muslims can become a potent adversary ie: suicide bombing, etc." [sic]

The last bullet point on that page reads simply: "We love death more then [sic] you love life!"

Under the "Conclusions" page, Hasan wrote that "Fighting to establish an Islamic State to please God, even by force, is condoned by the Islam," and that "Muslim Soldiers should not serve in any capacity that renders them at risk to hurting/killing believers unjustly -- will vary!"

The final page, labeled "Recommendation," contained only one suggestion:

"Department of Defense should allow Muslims [sic] Soldiers the option of being released as 'Conscientious objectors' to increase troop morale and decrease adverse events."
 

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