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[FDR_Reagan]

It is a long history.

Barbary Pirates on thev1800s.

Excerpt from WaPo:

Terrorists by Another Name: The Barbary Pirates
By Richard Lei. October 15, 2001
They considered us infidels -- and easy targets. They committed atrocious acts against civilians. They provoked war with America.

"They are odious for the constant violation of the laws of nations and humanity," as one writer put it. We saw them as bloodthirsty fanatics, sanctioned by Islamic despots, and we believed their behavior threatened the future of the modern world.

Thus the president found it necessary to launch America's first military campaign against state-sponsored terrorists. Except he didn't call them that, because 200 years ago, everyone called terrorists by another name: pirates.

For all the talk in Washington that the current battle against global terrorism represents an entirely new kind of war, against a different kind of enemy, historians say America's seen this before. Back when the nation was largely untested in the arena of foreign entanglement, we found ourselves in an extended, exasperating campaign against various Muslim states in North Africa, which harbored the notorious Barbary pirates. By most reckonings, that battle lasted 30 years...

The banditry was rooted, however, in centuries of religious strife between Muslims and Christians. The pirates, nominally subject to the Ottoman sultan, were still battling the descendants of the Crusaders. (In 1605, St. Vincent de Paul was among those kidnapped by the Barbary pirates and sold into slavery to Muslims.) Captured Christians could gain freedom by "taking the turban" or "turning Turk" -- that is, by converting to Islam....

Facing a criminal menace abroad, Americans reaffirmed their commitment to democratic ideals at home. Talk of "national character" flourished. The Constitution was ratified. The pirate crisis, historians say, made America grow up.

"There's a temptation to view all of our problems as unprecedented and all of our threats as new and novel," says George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley. Shortly after the terror attacks of Sept. 11, Turley advised some members of Congress who were considering a formal declaration of war against the suspected perpetrators. He invoked the precedent of the Barbary pirates, saying America had every right to attack and destroy the terrorist leadership without declaring war...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/2001/10/15/terrorists-by-another-name-the-barbary-pirates/af7e4c90-b56c-4e0c-95ea-f079b889a96f/

Lessons From the Barbary Pirate Wars (Published 2009)

Paying “tribute” didn’t work in Thomas Jefferson’s time. Can we stop now?

www.nytimes.com

Recent years in Africa:



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In the Middle East

 

[Pastelli]

ISIS too.

 

[1srelluc]

Check this out....Damn!

The Sack Of Baltimore (Ireland)

Sack of Baltimore - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[surada]

It is a long history.

Barbary Pirates on thev1800s.

Lessons From the Barbary Pirate Wars (Published 2009)

Paying “tribute” didn’t work in Thomas Jefferson’s time. Can we stop now?

www.nytimes.com

Recent years in Africa:



Or

In the Middle East

Your article is behind a paywall.

 

[surada]

Teach Democracy

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Excerpt:

In the 1700s, the countries along the southern coastline of the Mediterranean Sea were called the Barbary States.

They included Morocco, Algiers, Tunis, and Tripoli. Named after the Berbers, one of North Africa's native peoples, the Barbary States were little pirate kingdoms that plundered the merchant ships of many nations.

The Barbary pirates were mostly Berbers, Arabs, and other Muslims, but some came from Christian Europe.

The pirates used small, fast-moving vessels to capture trading ships and their cargoes. They held the crews and passengers for ransom or sold them as slaves.

Each of the four Barbary States had its own ruler. He was usually a military strongman who had grabbed the throne by assassinating the ruler or murdering rival family members.

In 1662, England made the first treaty with a Barbary ruler. This set the pattern for similar treaties by other European nations trading in the Mediterranean. Typically, a Barbary peace treaty required a nation to pay "tribute" to the pirate ruler, who would then call off attacks on the nation's ships.

Tribute usually took the form of a large payment of money plus annual payments. The annual payments might be cash, military supplies, or expensive presents for the ruler. A particular treaty might also include ransom money for the release of a nation's citizens held captive by the Barbary country.

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[FDR_Reagan]

Check this out....Damn!

The Sack Of Baltimore (Ireland)

Sack of Baltimore - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wow, that far early 1631?

 

[1srelluc]

Wow, that far early 1631?

The Dutch were assholes back then.

 

[surada]

Check this out....Damn!

The Sack Of Baltimore (Ireland)

Sack of Baltimore - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Very interesting link.

The sack of Baltimore took place on 20 June 1631, when the village of Baltimore in West Cork, Ireland, was attacked by pirates from the Barbary Coast of North Africa – the raiders included Dutchmen, Algerians, and Ottoman Turks. The attack was the largest by Barbary slave traders on Ireland.

 

[surada]

The Dutch were assholes back then.

Why would you say that? They weren't all pirates.

 

[FDR_Reagan]

Your article is behind a paywall.

Here is a book:

Pirates of Barbary

The stirring story of the seventeenth-century pirates of the Mediterranean-the forerunners of today's bandits of the seas-and how their conquests shaped the clash between Christianity and Islam. It's easy to think of piracy as a romantic way of life long gone-if not for today's frightening...

books.google.com

 

[1srelluc]

Why would you say that? They weren't all pirates.

They were a great maritime nation back then.

Dutch Golden Age - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[FDR_Reagan]

Why would you say that? They weren't all pirates.

It seems Surada always blames the infidels Dhimmis.. and never the Islamic Supremacy UMMAH.

 

[Ancient lion]

Killing 20,000 civilians is militant Judaism shiny glory.

 

[surada]

They were a great maritime nation back then.

Dutch Golden Age - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yes, they were.

 

[surada]

It seems Surada always blames the infidels Dhimmis.. and never the Islamic Supremacy UMMAH.

Are you talking about the Barbery pirates? Most had been legit until they lost their letters of Marque.

You're a very small man.

 

[FDR_Reagan]

Killing

First of all Israel is a secular society and so is Netanayahu.

What 'Ancient lion' actually says is that Hamas using cvilians to cause their deaths is Islamic jihad glory.

Hamas officials admit its strategy is to use Palestinian civilians as human shields

Hamas chooses not to build bomb shelters in Gaza because that would undercut its ability to use the population as human shields. By putting civilians in or above its military positions, Hamas knows…

nypost.com

And how many of the Hamas provided FALSE numbers were terrorists?
We know the were aome 20,000 Hamas armed murderers before Israel's response post Oct 7 - 3,000 Jihadiats' atrocities (warning) under ALLAH AKBAR.

 

[surada]

First of all Israel is a secular society and so is Netanayahu.

What 'Ancient lion' actually says is that Hamas using cvilians to cause their deaths is Islamic jihad glory.
And how many of the Hamas provided FALSE numbers were terrorists?
We know the were aome 20,000 Hamas armed murderers before Israel's response post Oct 7 - 3,000 Jihadiats' atrocities (warning) under ALLAH AKBAR

Hamas has done nothing but hurt the Palestinians. Their actions justify killing more Palestinians. Nothing has changed. The slaughter goes on and on.

 

[Pastelli]

Killing 20,000 civilians ..

Amazing ther are only "children" when Hamas shows its propaganda to the media...

 

[AZrailwhale]

Are you talking about the Barbery pirates? Most had been legit until they lost their letters of Marque.

You're a very small man.

Europeans didn’t issue letters of Marque to the Barbary Pirates. They had always been pirates and slavers. They didn’t try to hide it or apologize, killing and enslaving infidels was their right under the their religion according to them.

 

[Pastelli]

Europeans didn’t issue letters of Marque to the Barbary Pirates. They had always been pirates and slavers. They didn’t try to hide it or apologize, killing and enslaving infidels was their right under the their religion according to them.

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