Guns are not the problem in Chicago..the judges and prosecutors are...

[gipper]

I might add that Dick Durbin representing the people there is another problem in Chicago... Yet these idiots keep voting him in office over and over again.

Unfortunately continually electing idiots is not limited to Chicago.

 

[2aguy]

No...the NRA trains police officers, conducts gun safety education and lobbies to keep violent criminals in jail......you morons fight to let actual violent criminals back onto the streets....

The NRA is to guns what PETA is to animal cruelty... so fanatical that they forgot what their original goal was.

We already lock up 2 million people when most democracies only lock up less than 100,000. if locking people up were an answer, we'd be there already.

Yes.....you will be in the same train car as your neighbors....but at least they will be innocent...

Here's the dirty little secret. Most Germans didn't end up in the train cars, and they were happy to send their neighbors off. You see, of the many, many things you don't get about Nazi Germany is that most Germans enthusiastically supported Hitler until VE Day. Then much like children who ate too much candy, after the war, they said, "It was them...those guys who did the bad stuff."

Yeah, 50 years later, they made von Stauffenburg a hero. At the time, not so much.

If you are letting violent, murderers out of jail after less than 2 years...it doesn't matter how many are locked up.....they get out and kill people...what part of that dynamic is so hard for you to understand?

Most democracies have less violent cultures...or they did, until they decided to import them, as Europe just did.

 

[danielpalos]

No...the NRA trains police officers, conducts gun safety education and lobbies to keep violent criminals in jail......you morons fight to let actual violent criminals back onto the streets....

The NRA is to guns what PETA is to animal cruelty... so fanatical that they forgot what their original goal was.

We already lock up 2 million people when most democracies only lock up less than 100,000. if locking people up were an answer, we'd be there already.

Yes.....you will be in the same train car as your neighbors....but at least they will be innocent...

Here's the dirty little secret. Most Germans didn't end up in the train cars, and they were happy to send their neighbors off. You see, of the many, many things you don't get about Nazi Germany is that most Germans enthusiastically supported Hitler until VE Day. Then much like children who ate too much candy, after the war, they said, "It was them...those guys who did the bad stuff."

Yeah, 50 years later, they made von Stauffenburg a hero. At the time, not so much.

If you are letting violent, murderers out of jail after less than 2 years...it doesn't matter how many are locked up.....they get out and kill people...what part of that dynamic is so hard for you to understand?

Most democracies have less violent cultures...or they did, until they decided to import them, as Europe just did.

We need War on Crime Tax Rates to continue those public policies.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

And yet you want them to be the only ones armed....

You don't make any fucking sense sometimes.

Well, here's the thing. The only reason why American cops are armed so heavily is because the National Rampage Association has flooded our streets with guns. In the UK, cops shoot less than 2 civilians a year on average. In Japan, it's considered a notable event if the cops even pull their guns out of their holsters.

Yes, it's unfortunate that some police departments would hire a Jason van Dyke and other police officers would feel a need to cover for him. But let's not forget, there were honest cops there that screamed foul, preserved the evidence, etc.

But ultimately, the problem lies with us, for not demanding better. Because the streets are flooded with guns, we are scared and hide behind the police and abdicate a lot of power to them. So you have a situation like the one in Minnesota,where a cop panicked, shot a compliant motorist 8 times while his wife and child were in the car, caught it all on tape, and a mostly white jury still acquitted him.

You can't bitch about living in a police state when you keep letting the police get away with the bad behavior

The NRA does not sell or traffic in firearms Idiot

The NRA is the biggest lobbyist in the country. Their entire purpose is propaganda and 99% of what they do is sell guns and lies about guns.


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[Skull Pilot]

And yet you want them to be the only ones armed....

You don't make any fucking sense sometimes.

Well, here's the thing. The only reason why American cops are armed so heavily is because the National Rampage Association has flooded our streets with guns. In the UK, cops shoot less than 2 civilians a year on average. In Japan, it's considered a notable event if the cops even pull their guns out of their holsters.

Yes, it's unfortunate that some police departments would hire a Jason van Dyke and other police officers would feel a need to cover for him. But let's not forget, there were honest cops there that screamed foul, preserved the evidence, etc.

But ultimately, the problem lies with us, for not demanding better. Because the streets are flooded with guns, we are scared and hide behind the police and abdicate a lot of power to them. So you have a situation like the one in Minnesota,where a cop panicked, shot a compliant motorist 8 times while his wife and child were in the car, caught it all on tape, and a mostly white jury still acquitted him.

You can't bitch about living in a police state when you keep letting the police get away with the bad behavior

The NRA does not sell or traffic in firearms Idiot

The NRA is the biggest lobbyist in the country. Their entire purpose is propaganda and 99% of what they do is sell guns and lies about guns.


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No the NRA doesn't sell guns. No one I know has ever bought a gun from the NRA.

And so what if they lobby? Everyone lobbies the government.

The NRA , which by the way I am not a member, is the largest firearm safety organization in the country.

 

[2aguy]

And yet you want them to be the only ones armed....

You don't make any fucking sense sometimes.

Well, here's the thing. The only reason why American cops are armed so heavily is because the National Rampage Association has flooded our streets with guns. In the UK, cops shoot less than 2 civilians a year on average. In Japan, it's considered a notable event if the cops even pull their guns out of their holsters.

Yes, it's unfortunate that some police departments would hire a Jason van Dyke and other police officers would feel a need to cover for him. But let's not forget, there were honest cops there that screamed foul, preserved the evidence, etc.

But ultimately, the problem lies with us, for not demanding better. Because the streets are flooded with guns, we are scared and hide behind the police and abdicate a lot of power to them. So you have a situation like the one in Minnesota,where a cop panicked, shot a compliant motorist 8 times while his wife and child were in the car, caught it all on tape, and a mostly white jury still acquitted him.

You can't bitch about living in a police state when you keep letting the police get away with the bad behavior

The NRA does not sell or traffic in firearms Idiot

The NRA is the biggest lobbyist in the country. Their entire purpose is propaganda and 99% of what they do is sell guns and lies about guns.


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No...unions are the biggest lobbyists in the country.....the NRA doesn't even hit the top 50 of campaign contributions.....

What lies do they sell?

 

[LuckyDuck]

Law abiding gun owners aren't shooting people in Chicago.....the ones doing it should be in prison...but aren't....

Crime Under Illinois' "Catch and Release" Justice System - The Truth About Guns

Twenty-year-old Lavontay Chavis makes a good poster boy for Illinois’ broken justice system. In a little over two years, since turning 18, Mr. Chavis has racked up 13 arrests and spent 18-months in prison for a felony gun charge.

In May, police say he and a 17-year-old accomplice committed a string of armed robberies and then carjacked a ride at gunpoint before leading police on a high-speed chase.
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How come Lavontay Chavis remained on the streets of Chicago victimizing innocent people after so many repeated arrests? Because of soft-on-crime Cook County prosecutor Kim Foxx.


Chicago’s “Social Justice” prosecutor Foxx (above from her profile in Elle magazine) gave another hoodlum, Jwan Farley, two years’ probation for a pair of armed robberies. Other armed robbers like DeAngelo Dixon and Leandrew Wallace also negotiated sweetheart probation plea deals from Kim Foxx’s office.

Meanwhile she sentenced a guy who stole 41 jars of Oil of Olay to 27 months in prison. Priorities, you know.

Carjackers also benefit from Kim Foxx’s largesse. Nineteen-year-old Jimmell Cannon of Lawndale like to “bump” into unsuspecting drivers. When the victims step out to inspect the damage, he hijacks their vehicles. Police caught him for a May 27th incident.

In any sane world, Cannon would have been in jail from a nearly identical February incident where police caught him in a similarly ‘jacked VW Passat.

Did Kim Foxx’s office throw the book at this offender on the earlier case? Hardly. Kim Foxx dropped all charges days before cops caught Cannon on his latest gig.

Jimmell Cannon now sits in jail, but he’s no stranger to incarceration. At the tender age of 13, he pointed a BB gun at cops. Cops promptly shot him eight times. His family described little Jimmell as just an “innocent child just having fun in the park.”

The vast majority of gun crimes are created by individuals possessing "stolen" firearms.
Solution: Mandatory minimums for the following:
1. Possession of a stolen firearm: 10 years.....period.
2. Use of a stolen firearm in the commission of a crime: 30 years.....period.
Post the new laws throughout the high crime areas, add in plenty of news coverage and word of mouth to known dealers and gang members.

 

[August West]

Law abiding gun owners aren't shooting people in Chicago.....the ones doing it should be in prison...but aren't....

Crime Under Illinois' "Catch and Release" Justice System - The Truth About Guns

Twenty-year-old Lavontay Chavis makes a good poster boy for Illinois’ broken justice system. In a little over two years, since turning 18, Mr. Chavis has racked up 13 arrests and spent 18-months in prison for a felony gun charge.

In May, police say he and a 17-year-old accomplice committed a string of armed robberies and then carjacked a ride at gunpoint before leading police on a high-speed chase.
---

How come Lavontay Chavis remained on the streets of Chicago victimizing innocent people after so many repeated arrests? Because of soft-on-crime Cook County prosecutor Kim Foxx.


Chicago’s “Social Justice” prosecutor Foxx (above from her profile in Elle magazine) gave another hoodlum, Jwan Farley, two years’ probation for a pair of armed robberies. Other armed robbers like DeAngelo Dixon and Leandrew Wallace also negotiated sweetheart probation plea deals from Kim Foxx’s office.

Meanwhile she sentenced a guy who stole 41 jars of Oil of Olay to 27 months in prison. Priorities, you know.

Carjackers also benefit from Kim Foxx’s largesse. Nineteen-year-old Jimmell Cannon of Lawndale like to “bump” into unsuspecting drivers. When the victims step out to inspect the damage, he hijacks their vehicles. Police caught him for a May 27th incident.

In any sane world, Cannon would have been in jail from a nearly identical February incident where police caught him in a similarly ‘jacked VW Passat.

Did Kim Foxx’s office throw the book at this offender on the earlier case? Hardly. Kim Foxx dropped all charges days before cops caught Cannon on his latest gig.

Jimmell Cannon now sits in jail, but he’s no stranger to incarceration. At the tender age of 13, he pointed a BB gun at cops. Cops promptly shot him eight times. His family described little Jimmell as just an “innocent child just having fun in the park.”

The vast majority of gun crimes are created by individuals possessing "stolen" firearms.
Solution: Mandatory minimums for the following:
1. Possession of a stolen firearm: 10 years.....period.
2. Use of a stolen firearm in the commission of a crime: 30 years.....period.
Post the new laws throughout the high crime areas, add in plenty of news coverage and word of mouth to known dealers and gang members.

The NRA would oppose that LD. They support straw purchasers by fighting laws requiring gun owners to report their stolen guns. They support criminals, crazies and terror suspects.

 

[LuckyDuck]

Law abiding gun owners aren't shooting people in Chicago.....the ones doing it should be in prison...but aren't....

Crime Under Illinois' "Catch and Release" Justice System - The Truth About Guns

Twenty-year-old Lavontay Chavis makes a good poster boy for Illinois’ broken justice system. In a little over two years, since turning 18, Mr. Chavis has racked up 13 arrests and spent 18-months in prison for a felony gun charge.

In May, police say he and a 17-year-old accomplice committed a string of armed robberies and then carjacked a ride at gunpoint before leading police on a high-speed chase.
---

How come Lavontay Chavis remained on the streets of Chicago victimizing innocent people after so many repeated arrests? Because of soft-on-crime Cook County prosecutor Kim Foxx.


Chicago’s “Social Justice” prosecutor Foxx (above from her profile in Elle magazine) gave another hoodlum, Jwan Farley, two years’ probation for a pair of armed robberies. Other armed robbers like DeAngelo Dixon and Leandrew Wallace also negotiated sweetheart probation plea deals from Kim Foxx’s office.

Meanwhile she sentenced a guy who stole 41 jars of Oil of Olay to 27 months in prison. Priorities, you know.

Carjackers also benefit from Kim Foxx’s largesse. Nineteen-year-old Jimmell Cannon of Lawndale like to “bump” into unsuspecting drivers. When the victims step out to inspect the damage, he hijacks their vehicles. Police caught him for a May 27th incident.

In any sane world, Cannon would have been in jail from a nearly identical February incident where police caught him in a similarly ‘jacked VW Passat.

Did Kim Foxx’s office throw the book at this offender on the earlier case? Hardly. Kim Foxx dropped all charges days before cops caught Cannon on his latest gig.

Jimmell Cannon now sits in jail, but he’s no stranger to incarceration. At the tender age of 13, he pointed a BB gun at cops. Cops promptly shot him eight times. His family described little Jimmell as just an “innocent child just having fun in the park.”

The vast majority of gun crimes are created by individuals possessing "stolen" firearms.
Solution: Mandatory minimums for the following:
1. Possession of a stolen firearm: 10 years.....period.
2. Use of a stolen firearm in the commission of a crime: 30 years.....period.
Post the new laws throughout the high crime areas, add in plenty of news coverage and word of mouth to known dealers and gang members.

The NRA would oppose that LD. They support straw purchasers by fighting laws requiring gun owners to report their stolen guns. They support criminals, crazies and terror suspects.

The NRA doesn't support the criminals. It has always clearly stated that the government needs to "enforce" the laws that are already on the books. The problem is with the judges.

 

[2aguy]

Law abiding gun owners aren't shooting people in Chicago.....the ones doing it should be in prison...but aren't....

Crime Under Illinois' "Catch and Release" Justice System - The Truth About Guns

Twenty-year-old Lavontay Chavis makes a good poster boy for Illinois’ broken justice system. In a little over two years, since turning 18, Mr. Chavis has racked up 13 arrests and spent 18-months in prison for a felony gun charge.

In May, police say he and a 17-year-old accomplice committed a string of armed robberies and then carjacked a ride at gunpoint before leading police on a high-speed chase.
---

How come Lavontay Chavis remained on the streets of Chicago victimizing innocent people after so many repeated arrests? Because of soft-on-crime Cook County prosecutor Kim Foxx.


Chicago’s “Social Justice” prosecutor Foxx (above from her profile in Elle magazine) gave another hoodlum, Jwan Farley, two years’ probation for a pair of armed robberies. Other armed robbers like DeAngelo Dixon and Leandrew Wallace also negotiated sweetheart probation plea deals from Kim Foxx’s office.

Meanwhile she sentenced a guy who stole 41 jars of Oil of Olay to 27 months in prison. Priorities, you know.

Carjackers also benefit from Kim Foxx’s largesse. Nineteen-year-old Jimmell Cannon of Lawndale like to “bump” into unsuspecting drivers. When the victims step out to inspect the damage, he hijacks their vehicles. Police caught him for a May 27th incident.

In any sane world, Cannon would have been in jail from a nearly identical February incident where police caught him in a similarly ‘jacked VW Passat.

Did Kim Foxx’s office throw the book at this offender on the earlier case? Hardly. Kim Foxx dropped all charges days before cops caught Cannon on his latest gig.

Jimmell Cannon now sits in jail, but he’s no stranger to incarceration. At the tender age of 13, he pointed a BB gun at cops. Cops promptly shot him eight times. His family described little Jimmell as just an “innocent child just having fun in the park.”

The vast majority of gun crimes are created by individuals possessing "stolen" firearms.
Solution: Mandatory minimums for the following:
1. Possession of a stolen firearm: 10 years.....period.
2. Use of a stolen firearm in the commission of a crime: 30 years.....period.
Post the new laws throughout the high crime areas, add in plenty of news coverage and word of mouth to known dealers and gang members.

The NRA would oppose that LD. They support straw purchasers by fighting laws requiring gun owners to report their stolen guns. They support criminals, crazies and terror suspects.

they resist laws that impinge on personal freedom.......they are one of the earliest civil rights groups.......

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Law abiding gun owners aren't shooting people in Chicago.....the ones doing it should be in prison...but aren't....

Crime Under Illinois' "Catch and Release" Justice System - The Truth About Guns

Twenty-year-old Lavontay Chavis makes a good poster boy for Illinois’ broken justice system. In a little over two years, since turning 18, Mr. Chavis has racked up 13 arrests and spent 18-months in prison for a felony gun charge.

In May, police say he and a 17-year-old accomplice committed a string of armed robberies and then carjacked a ride at gunpoint before leading police on a high-speed chase.
---

How come Lavontay Chavis remained on the streets of Chicago victimizing innocent people after so many repeated arrests? Because of soft-on-crime Cook County prosecutor Kim Foxx.


Chicago’s “Social Justice” prosecutor Foxx (above from her profile in Elle magazine) gave another hoodlum, Jwan Farley, two years’ probation for a pair of armed robberies. Other armed robbers like DeAngelo Dixon and Leandrew Wallace also negotiated sweetheart probation plea deals from Kim Foxx’s office.

Meanwhile she sentenced a guy who stole 41 jars of Oil of Olay to 27 months in prison. Priorities, you know.

Carjackers also benefit from Kim Foxx’s largesse. Nineteen-year-old Jimmell Cannon of Lawndale like to “bump” into unsuspecting drivers. When the victims step out to inspect the damage, he hijacks their vehicles. Police caught him for a May 27th incident.

In any sane world, Cannon would have been in jail from a nearly identical February incident where police caught him in a similarly ‘jacked VW Passat.

Did Kim Foxx’s office throw the book at this offender on the earlier case? Hardly. Kim Foxx dropped all charges days before cops caught Cannon on his latest gig.

Jimmell Cannon now sits in jail, but he’s no stranger to incarceration. At the tender age of 13, he pointed a BB gun at cops. Cops promptly shot him eight times. His family described little Jimmell as just an “innocent child just having fun in the park.”

Naw, the "problem" is the residents.

It doesn't take a judge or prosecutor to keep you from indiscriminate murder does it?

Put the blame squarely where it belongs....in the ghetto

 

[JoeB131]

Guerrilla tactics work denying that is naive to the point of mental retardation

Guerilla tactics only work if your enemy is humane. Against an enemy that is truly oppressive, like Nazi Germany, not so much. they just make you dig your own graves.

 

[JoeB131]

We already have plenty of sensible gun laws what we don't have is sensible punishment for violent piece of shit low life criminals who use guns to commit crimes

again, we lock up more people than any country in the world, including Communist China.

 

[JoeB131]

If you are letting violent, murderers out of jail after less than 2 years...it doesn't matter how many are locked up.....they get out and kill people...what part of that dynamic is so hard for you to understand?

Most democracies have less violent cultures...or they did, until they decided to import them, as Europe just did.

Hey, why don't you just say "the darkies" instead of 'violent cultures". It would be a refreshing bit of honesty from you.

 

[2aguy]

If you are letting violent, murderers out of jail after less than 2 years...it doesn't matter how many are locked up.....they get out and kill people...what part of that dynamic is so hard for you to understand?

Most democracies have less violent cultures...or they did, until they decided to import them, as Europe just did.

Hey, why don't you just say "the darkies" instead of 'violent cultures". It would be a refreshing bit of honesty from you.

Are Albanians "darkies"....? They are one of the violent groups in Britain and their drug gangs are some of the most violent in Britain....dumbshit.

 

[2aguy]

If you are letting violent, murderers out of jail after less than 2 years...it doesn't matter how many are locked up.....they get out and kill people...what part of that dynamic is so hard for you to understand?

Most democracies have less violent cultures...or they did, until they decided to import them, as Europe just did.

Hey, why don't you just say "the darkies" instead of 'violent cultures". It would be a refreshing bit of honesty from you.

Here you go...are these people "darkies?" It is interesting how easy you use slurs like that...

Albanian gangs have significant control over UK cocaine market, says crime agency

The National Crime Agency has said it is increasingly concerned about violent Albanian criminal gangs, which have considerable control over the illegal cocaine market.

In its annual assessment of organised crime [pdf], the NCA warns that Albanian gangs have “established a high-profile influence within UK organised crime”. Their main focus is the often violent trade in trafficking cocaine to London, the report warns.

It says: “Criminals from the Balkans are increasingly expanding their network of influence, forming direct relationships with cocaine suppliers in Latin America. The threat faced from Albanian crime groups is significant. London is their primary hub, but they are established across the UK. ”

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He said there was a danger innocent people could be killed or injured in the Albanian gang warfare.
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“The UK is the ultimate destination for younger Albanians, who come from a country where 70% of the population is Muslim and the medieval code of kanunholds sway in rural areas. This decrees that spilled blood must be paid for with spilled blood, a stipulation that, down the years, has resulted in hundreds of tit-for-tat murders.

 

[JoeB131]

Ooooh, 2TinyGuy doesn't like it when people out his racism.

Albanians? Really?

 

[2aguy]

Ooooh, 2TinyGuy doesn't like it when people out his racism.

Albanians? Really?

Yeah....how are albanian gangs "darkies" again, joe?

joe doesn't like it when his racist crap is exposed.....

 

[martybegan]

In the Castile case the cop overreacted, but Castile made a move to his pocket. While I'm not happy the cop got acquitted, I at least hope he will get his ass fired for breaking departmental rules.

The cop said he made a move for his pocket. Castille's last words was "I wasn't reaching". ergo, the problem of a racist system that ignores the rights of minorities. If Castille had been white, you'd see the Lib-retard-ians and National Rampage Association throwing a fit.

The "problem" is the beyond a reasonable doubt standard applies to everyone. I guess you would like to remove that protection for accused police officers, right?

 

[JoeB131]

The "problem" is the beyond a reasonable doubt standard applies to everyone. I guess you would like to remove that protection for accused police officers, right?

If this cop shot a white kid, you'd be screaming bloody murder and something about second amendment rights.