...guns in the attack on the Capitol, January 6th....

[Chillicothe]

News reports from several outlets are covering this MAGA gun-nut who was shooting from the scaffold at the Capitol during the attack by Trump supporters. I offer it here as another layer of context for the "unarmed" mantra so many of the MAGA/QAnon'rs spout about January 6th.
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"Prosecutors Charge Man With Firing Shots Outside the Capitol on Jan.6"​

The charges once again laid bare one of the most persistent myths about the attack promoted by pro-Trump politicians and media figures: that none of the rioters were armed.

A Donald Trump supporter charged with firing a gun outside the Capitol during the Jan. 6 attack was ordered detained by a federal judge in Chicago on Wednesday after prosecutors argued his conduct was "mind-numbingly dangerous" and no conditions of his release could guarantee public safety.

John Banuelos was publicly identified in an NBC News story in February 2022, but it wasn't until last month that another Jan. 6 rioter published video footage that appeared to show Banuelos firing the weapon that was seen in his waistband.
One of the most persistent lies about the Capitol attack — often made by Republican politicians and right-wing media figures — is that none of the hundreds of rioters who stormed the building had guns. On Thursday night, former President Donald J. Trump repeated the false claim on social media while responding to remarks about Jan. 6 that President Biden had made during his State of the Union address.
“The so-called ‘Insurrectionists’ that he talks about had no guns,” Mr. Trump wrote. “They only had a Rigged Election.”

But the Justice Department’s sprawling investigation of Jan. 6 has revealed that several people at the Capitol were carrying firearms that day. Altogether, more than 1,300 rioters have been charged in connection with the attack and arrests continue almost daily."

Prosecutors Charge Man With Firing Shots Outside the Capitol on Jan. 6

The charges once again laid bare one of the most persistent myths about the attack promoted by pro-Trump politicians and media figures: that none of the rioters were armed.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Oddball]

Only took over three years to track down this dude!

Oh, and a prop player firing a gun into the air still isn't an "insurrection" numbnutz.

 

[1srelluc]

News reports from several outlets are covering this MAGA gun-nut who was shooting from the scaffold at the Capitol during the attack by Trump supporters. I offer it here as another layer of context for the "unarmed" mantra so many of the MAGA/QAnon'rs spout about January 6th.
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"Prosecutors Charge Man With Firing Shots Outside the Capitol on Jan.6"​

The charges once again laid bare one of the most persistent myths about the attack promoted by pro-Trump politicians and media figures: that none of the rioters were armed.

A Donald Trump supporter charged with firing a gun outside the Capitol during the Jan. 6 attack was ordered detained by a federal judge in Chicago on Wednesday after prosecutors argued his conduct was "mind-numbingly dangerous" and no conditions of his release could guarantee public safety.

John Banuelos was publicly identified in an NBC News story in February 2022, but it wasn't until last month that another Jan. 6 rioter published video footage that appeared to show Banuelos firing the weapon that was seen in his waistband.
One of the most persistent lies about the Capitol attack — often made by Republican politicians and right-wing media figures — is that none of the hundreds of rioters who stormed the building had guns. On Thursday night, former President Donald J. Trump repeated the false claim on social media while responding to remarks about Jan. 6 that President Biden had made during his State of the Union address.
“The so-called ‘Insurrectionists’ that he talks about had no guns,” Mr. Trump wrote. “They only had a Rigged Election.”

But the Justice Department’s sprawling investigation of Jan. 6 has revealed that several people at the Capitol were carrying firearms that day. Altogether, more than 1,300 rioters have been charged in connection with the attack and arrests continue almost daily."

Prosecutors Charge Man With Firing Shots Outside the Capitol on Jan. 6

The charges once again laid bare one of the most persistent myths about the attack promoted by pro-Trump politicians and media figures: that none of the rioters were armed.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Lord-Humungus]

What took them so long to identify the FBI plant

 

[Oddball]

What took them so long to identify the FBI plant

A group of debunkers who've been collecting private phone video came upon this a couple weeks ago.

Was only a matter of time before the Feds rolled up their prop player, and make a big show of it.

 

[Chillicothe]

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What's fake about the story, poster Frank?
The conviction? (ps....I think it is real, and also think he and his family think it is real.)

From what other gun-toting insurrectionists were sentenced.....I'll suggest he'll get 7 years. After all, he actually fired his weapon.

Here is what other gun-bearers got:

"Among the other rioters who were carrying firearms on Jan. 6 are Christopher Alberts, a former Virginia National Guard member who charged the police outside the Capitol with a loaded 9-millimeter pistol, prosecutors say. Mr. Alberts was convicted of multiple felony charges and sentenced to seven years in prison.

A rioter named Mark Mazza brought two guns to the Capitol — a .40-caliber semiautomatic pistol and a Taurus revolver loaded with shotgun shells and hollow-point bullets, prosecutors say. Mr. Mazza was sentenced to five years in prison.

 

[deannalw]

Probably the same amount of people had guns that day that you'd find on folks on a normal day at Walmart.

Whooptyshit

 

[Rambunctious]

People are waking up to the deep state led riots on 1-6....
So the feds must start putting bullshit into the willing media....

 

[deannalw]

People are waking up to the deep state led riots on 1-6....
So the feds must start putting bullshit into the willing media....

"Start"? When did they not?

 

[LuckyDuck]

News reports from several outlets are covering this MAGA gun-nut who was shooting from the scaffold at the Capitol during the attack by Trump supporters. I offer it here as another layer of context for the "unarmed" mantra so many of the MAGA/QAnon'rs spout about January 6th.
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"Prosecutors Charge Man With Firing Shots Outside the Capitol on Jan.6"​

The charges once again laid bare one of the most persistent myths about the attack promoted by pro-Trump politicians and media figures: that none of the rioters were armed.

A Donald Trump supporter charged with firing a gun outside the Capitol during the Jan. 6 attack was ordered detained by a federal judge in Chicago on Wednesday after prosecutors argued his conduct was "mind-numbingly dangerous" and no conditions of his release could guarantee public safety.

John Banuelos was publicly identified in an NBC News story in February 2022, but it wasn't until last month that another Jan. 6 rioter published video footage that appeared to show Banuelos firing the weapon that was seen in his waistband.
One of the most persistent lies about the Capitol attack — often made by Republican politicians and right-wing media figures — is that none of the hundreds of rioters who stormed the building had guns. On Thursday night, former President Donald J. Trump repeated the false claim on social media while responding to remarks about Jan. 6 that President Biden had made during his State of the Union address.
“The so-called ‘Insurrectionists’ that he talks about had no guns,” Mr. Trump wrote. “They only had a Rigged Election.”

But the Justice Department’s sprawling investigation of Jan. 6 has revealed that several people at the Capitol were carrying firearms that day. Altogether, more than 1,300 rioters have been charged in connection with the attack and arrests continue almost daily."

Prosecutors Charge Man With Firing Shots Outside the Capitol on Jan. 6

The charges once again laid bare one of the most persistent myths about the attack promoted by pro-Trump politicians and media figures: that none of the rioters were armed.

www.nytimes.com

And, 35 year old, 12 year Air Force veteran, Ashli Babbitt was armed with........when murdered by a Capitol Police Officer, who has yet to face justice?

 

[DukeU]

They don't realize it but they keep digging a deeper hole.

But let's run with their narrative.

Many MAGA types had guns and weapons on Jan. 6th.

Really...........Yes really.

Gee, how many people did they shoot and kill........Nobody.


LMAO

 

[progressive hunter]

News reports from several outlets are covering this MAGA gun-nut who was shooting from the scaffold at the Capitol during the attack by Trump supporters. I offer it here as another layer of context for the "unarmed" mantra so many of the MAGA/QAnon'rs spout about January 6th.
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"Prosecutors Charge Man With Firing Shots Outside the Capitol on Jan.6"​

The charges once again laid bare one of the most persistent myths about the attack promoted by pro-Trump politicians and media figures: that none of the rioters were armed.

A Donald Trump supporter charged with firing a gun outside the Capitol during the Jan. 6 attack was ordered detained by a federal judge in Chicago on Wednesday after prosecutors argued his conduct was "mind-numbingly dangerous" and no conditions of his release could guarantee public safety.

John Banuelos was publicly identified in an NBC News story in February 2022, but it wasn't until last month that another Jan. 6 rioter published video footage that appeared to show Banuelos firing the weapon that was seen in his waistband.
One of the most persistent lies about the Capitol attack — often made by Republican politicians and right-wing media figures — is that none of the hundreds of rioters who stormed the building had guns. On Thursday night, former President Donald J. Trump repeated the false claim on social media while responding to remarks about Jan. 6 that President Biden had made during his State of the Union address.
“The so-called ‘Insurrectionists’ that he talks about had no guns,” Mr. Trump wrote. “They only had a Rigged Election.”

But the Justice Department’s sprawling investigation of Jan. 6 has revealed that several people at the Capitol were carrying firearms that day. Altogether, more than 1,300 rioters have been charged in connection with the attack and arrests continue almost daily."

Prosecutors Charge Man With Firing Shots Outside the Capitol on Jan. 6

The charges once again laid bare one of the most persistent myths about the attack promoted by pro-Trump politicians and media figures: that none of the rioters were armed.

www.nytimes.com

OMG!!!

you mean one guy shot off a gun at the capitol??

and I should care about this why??


as for the several people carrying guns,, I dont see the problem since they did nothing with them,,

please advise??

 

[deannalw]

They don't realize it but they keep digging a deeper hole.

But let's run with their narrative.

Many MAGA types had guns and weapons on Jan. 6th.

Really...........Yes really.

Gee, how many people did they shoot and kill........Nobody.


LMAO

I'm not sure what these bobbleheads thinks this proves.

LOL!

 

[progressive hunter]

News reports from several outlets are covering this MAGA gun-nut who was shooting from the scaffold at the Capitol during the attack by Trump supporters. I offer it here as another layer of context for the "unarmed" mantra so many of the MAGA/QAnon'rs spout about January 6th.
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"Prosecutors Charge Man With Firing Shots Outside the Capitol on Jan.6"​

The charges once again laid bare one of the most persistent myths about the attack promoted by pro-Trump politicians and media figures: that none of the rioters were armed.

A Donald Trump supporter charged with firing a gun outside the Capitol during the Jan. 6 attack was ordered detained by a federal judge in Chicago on Wednesday after prosecutors argued his conduct was "mind-numbingly dangerous" and no conditions of his release could guarantee public safety.

John Banuelos was publicly identified in an NBC News story in February 2022, but it wasn't until last month that another Jan. 6 rioter published video footage that appeared to show Banuelos firing the weapon that was seen in his waistband.
One of the most persistent lies about the Capitol attack — often made by Republican politicians and right-wing media figures — is that none of the hundreds of rioters who stormed the building had guns. On Thursday night, former President Donald J. Trump repeated the false claim on social media while responding to remarks about Jan. 6 that President Biden had made during his State of the Union address.
“The so-called ‘Insurrectionists’ that he talks about had no guns,” Mr. Trump wrote. “They only had a Rigged Election.”

But the Justice Department’s sprawling investigation of Jan. 6 has revealed that several people at the Capitol were carrying firearms that day. Altogether, more than 1,300 rioters have been charged in connection with the attack and arrests continue almost daily."

Prosecutors Charge Man With Firing Shots Outside the Capitol on Jan. 6

The charges once again laid bare one of the most persistent myths about the attack promoted by pro-Trump politicians and media figures: that none of the rioters were armed.

www.nytimes.com

donald trump thanks you for your support,,

 

[excalibur]

News reports from several outlets are covering this MAGA gun-nut who was shooting from the scaffold at the Capitol during the attack by Trump supporters. I offer it here as another layer of context for the "unarmed" mantra so many of the MAGA/QAnon'rs spout about January 6th.
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"Prosecutors Charge Man With Firing Shots Outside the Capitol on Jan.6"​

The charges once again laid bare one of the most persistent myths about the attack promoted by pro-Trump politicians and media figures: that none of the rioters were armed.

A Donald Trump supporter charged with firing a gun outside the Capitol during the Jan. 6 attack was ordered detained by a federal judge in Chicago on Wednesday after prosecutors argued his conduct was "mind-numbingly dangerous" and no conditions of his release could guarantee public safety.

John Banuelos was publicly identified in an NBC News story in February 2022, but it wasn't until last month that another Jan. 6 rioter published video footage that appeared to show Banuelos firing the weapon that was seen in his waistband.
One of the most persistent lies about the Capitol attack — often made by Republican politicians and right-wing media figures — is that none of the hundreds of rioters who stormed the building had guns. On Thursday night, former President Donald J. Trump repeated the false claim on social media while responding to remarks about Jan. 6 that President Biden had made during his State of the Union address.
“The so-called ‘Insurrectionists’ that he talks about had no guns,” Mr. Trump wrote. “They only had a Rigged Election.”

But the Justice Department’s sprawling investigation of Jan. 6 has revealed that several people at the Capitol were carrying firearms that day. Altogether, more than 1,300 rioters have been charged in connection with the attack and arrests continue almost daily."

Prosecutors Charge Man With Firing Shots Outside the Capitol on Jan. 6

The charges once again laid bare one of the most persistent myths about the attack promoted by pro-Trump politicians and media figures: that none of the rioters were armed.

www.nytimes.com

I had a thread up last week.

The FBI Is At It Again, Trying To Interfere In Our Election

Likely pushed by the AG Merrick Garland. Not that the Seventh Floor, corrupted by Øbama, needs encouragement. Just defund and make a new, leaner agency. With a base outside the Beltway. Now I understand why more than 3 years later, the FBI arrested the individual who shot a pistol in the air...

www.usmessageboard.com

After the disaster that was Biden's SOTU address, Trump used Truth Social to mention no guns on J6, the very next day the FBI arrested this guy.

 

[DukeU]

I'm not sure what these bobbleheads thinks this proves.

LOL!

They didn't/don't think at all.

Many weapons there (supposedly) and no one was killed.......Well, not by a MAGA's gun anyway.

 

[Yarddog]

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What's fake about the story, poster Frank?
The conviction? (ps....I think it is real, and also think he and his family think it is real.)

From what other gun-toting insurrectionists were sentenced.....I'll suggest he'll get 7 years. After all, he actually fired his weapon.

Here is what other gun-bearers got:

"Among the other rioters who were carrying firearms on Jan. 6 are Christopher Alberts, a former Virginia National Guard member who charged the police outside the Capitol with a loaded 9-millimeter pistol, prosecutors say. Mr. Alberts was convicted of multiple felony charges and sentenced to seven years in prison.

A rioter named Mark Mazza brought two guns to the Capitol — a .40-caliber semiautomatic pistol and a Taurus revolver loaded with shotgun shells and hollow-point bullets, prosecutors say. Mr. Mazza was sentenced to five years in prison.

Whats FAKE about your thread and post is the basic premise. Guns were NOT used to push back police. Guns were not used to enter the capitol bulding doors. Guns were NOT used to hold people up. Guns were not used to threaten individuals.
Did some people randomly brandish firearms? apparently.. but it was not done in any uniform or concerted way that one would think of in an armed insurrection. Your whole premis here is that it was an armed insurrection to take over the government.
Fake. FAKE.

 

[jknowgood]

 

[Chillicothe]

"And, 35 year old, 12 year Air Force veteran, Ashli Babbitt was armed with."

'Ashli Babbitt was armed with'.......lack of judgment.

Participating in the violent breaching of a barrier intentionally built to keep her and her mob away from our elected Representatives seems, in my old-guy mindset, to be a fraught venture.

As a 12-yr military veteran and 35yrs of age ....she should have known that destroying parts of the Capitol of the United States of America would have.....should have.....consequences. It does.
Aggressively defying a police order....in the face of a pointed firearm......would have, should have, consequences. It did.

Didn't she know that? Did she know that.....but didn't care?
Ashli Babbitt is dead because of Ashli Babbitt.
May her family find peace.

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Did some people randomly brandish firearms? apparently.. but it was not done in any uniform or concerted way that one would think of in an armed insurrection. Your whole premis here is that it was an armed insurrection to take over the government. Fake. FAKE.

To that issue, there was reportage about police responses to queries as to why THEY didn't use their firearms. The responses informed us that the police knew many of the violent attackers were armed. They had seen the pistols in belts or holsters. And the police knew they were wildly outmanned. If a gunfight started the police would be overwhelmed by the firepower of the thousands of violent attackers.

Hence, the fact of numerous firearms amongst the attackers served to moderate the police, and thus fostered the medieval-type hand-to-hand combat we all saw on the telly. If a policeman or even an attacker had pulled out a pistol in the melee and fired at the other side.....it could have been much much worse.
Those carrying firearms onto Capitol grounds, or into the Capitol were, by that fact, criminals.

 

[LuckyDuck]

'Ashli Babbitt was armed with'.......lack of judgment.

Participating in the violent breaching of a barrier intentionally built to keep her and her mob away from our elected Representatives seems, in my old-guy mindset, to be a fraught venture.

As a 12-yr military veteran and 35yrs of age ....she should have known that destroying parts of the Capitol of the United States of America would have.....should have.....consequences. It does.
Aggressively defying a police order....in the face of a pointed firearm......would have, should have, consequences. It did.

Didn't she know that? Did she know that.....but didn't care?
Ashli Babbitt is dead because of Ashli Babbitt.
May her family find peace.

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To that issue, there was reportage about police responses to queries as to why THEY didn't use their firearms. The responses informed us that the police knew many of the violent attackers were armed. They had seen the pistols in belts or holsters. And the police knew they were wildly outmanned. If a gunfight started the police would be overwhelmed by the firepower of the thousands of violent attackers.

Hence, the fact of numerous firearms amongst the attackers served to moderate the police, and thus fostered the medieval-type hand-to-hand combat we all saw on the telly. If a policeman or even an attacker had pulled out a pistol in the melee and fired at the other side.....it could have been much much worse.
Those carrying firearms onto Capitol grounds, or into the Capitol were, by that fact, criminals.

The Capitol Police at the time, had no clue about whether any protesters were armed with any firearms. As to the Ashli Babbitt issue, when a police officer in any city shoots an unarmed individual, a review is held, and in most cases, the police officer is held accountable, fired and may serve jail time. When they side with the police officer, often, it's because the perpetrator was trying to get the officer's gun.