Growing Hidden White Racism

[Huey]

I dont like whites cause they smell like "wet dogs".

 

[Huey]

whine,whine,whine,thats all white people do is whine

 

[taichiliberal]

And PUH-LEEZE get over the FACT that the PRESIDENT was asked a direct question regarding the dubious actions of local police regarding a noted historian and celebrity of whom the President is personally acquainted with. All one has to do is READ ALL THE INFORMATION on that case to see that indeed the President's assessment WAS ACCURATE.

Bullshit. The President spoke before he admittedly had the facts necessary to accurately assess the situation. The chief law enforcement officer in the country unjustifiably insulting law enforcement officers doing their duty is beyond inappropriate, and just one example of many indicating that obama is not fit for the office.

Newsflash, when the full case came down, Obama was RIGHT! Deal with it


Here's the outcome:
Legal Blog Watch


And here's what Obama said:

Obama: Cambridge Police "Acted Stupidly" in Arrest of Harvard Scholar Henry Louis Gates

 

[taichiliberal]

No, the inference to be had was that the use of the 'race card' regarding differences in what should be policies, have caused many to recognize the problems with PC. Affirmative action type policies had their place in 60's and mid-70's, should have been dropped then. Bakke should have won. But the court ruled otherwise. There really was barely a blip, PC had established it's foothold. But the still waters run deep. The problem was obvious.

Now it's in the open. Reverse discrimination is wrong. Minorities are being tarred with the actions.

Before going all 'racist' on me, my take would be that if a company chose to hire a minority company or individual, BECAUSE that would bring in more business, fine. IF a student comes from an area/school/family with less advantages than 'average', a university can take their scores and disadvantages into consideration, PROVIDED that it is on income or lack thereof, not race.

After rejecting Bakke to accept the incompentent Patrick Chavis, Bakke did go on to become a respected doctor. Patrick Chavis was never qualified to be a doctor, not with all the affirmative action in the world. His incompetence killled several patients, he lost his license and was shot to death at a Foster's Freeze in Hawthorne California.

Affirmative action is like putting lipstick on a pig. Not even the pig wearing the lipstick, just putting it up there.

Incorrect. Chavis became an OB/Gyn and worked in inner-city LA for years. It went bad when he switched to become a plastic surgeon and was accused of malpractice by three women. One died, not several.

In any case, there's no statistical correlation between AA and malpractice, and how Chavis turned out.

And once again, a little honest research takes the wind out of Katzndog's sails.

 

[JimBowie1958]

When some one says, 'I dont like blacks, they smell weird.' That is bigotry as it isnt reflective enough to qualify as an ism. It makes no assertions other than the individuals distate for a group different from what they are used to.

Now when a person says that blacks are subhuman, feral and the criminal element the most representative of how blacks behave due to their jungle breeding*, THAT is racism.

No, they are both racist statements.

You obscure the difference between bigotry and racism for what purpose?

You dont realize that there is a difference and you couldnt give a rats ass anyway as long as you can demogogue the issue like the provocateur that you try to be.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Obama failed to turn Confederate Republican bigots from their disgusting ways? Give me a break.

There are no "Confederates." There once were KKK groups growing out of the Democrat Party, but since Eisenhower desegregated schools in Little Rock, Arkansas, those things have decreased and equality has increased. Obama unfortunately has pushed the envelope over the edge of equality and wants superiority, not equality, for blacks.

We all need to come together on equality as a goal, and not superiority of any particular race or creed. Republicans are the antislavery party since their beginning in 1854. Bringing an entire cultural group up does not have to impinge on equal opportunities. Equality is here. Enslaving taxpayers who are working is not part of the equality plan. That goes against Republican anti-slavery tenets.

Being the best that one can be and working to get that way is the best way to earn the American dream. It's out there, but it's not free. It is just a goal. If one sets a goal and starts a savings program young in life and makes wise investments, the American dream is within rich, whether you're white, black, brown, red-skinned, asian, or latino.

Talking about race does not make one a racist. Opposing a person of color who is doing the wrong thing is not racist. Racist behaviors include: name-calling; relegating someone of a different cultural background than oneself to the worst seats in a theatre, plane, bus, or cruise ships; forcing groups comprised chiefly of one ethnic group to bear more burdens than those of different ethnicity; political causes threatening members of a different race;choosing people of one ethnicity over another to fill a job rather than an appropriate analysis of their resume backed up by checking statements made on the resume; separate public necessary rooms, water fountains, etc.

I've seen these things vanish from America, and I do not miss them. It's a far more equal world than it ever was. But when a President wrongfully accuses his political opposition of racism before their argument is heard, when they are known to be colorblind - that would be considered racism as well, even though it is the reverse of another era.

What are you talking about? Read Lee Atwater, Micheal Steele or Ken Melmann's comments on the southern strategy.

Ask John McCain about the republican run South Carolina push poll, circa 2008.

Check the Willie Horton ads or the Helms/Gant ads.

Get a clue on the topic you are discussing.

Those things have NOTHING to do with either the Confederacy nor neo-confederate movement.

It would appear that you are the one in need of informing themselves.

 

[JimBowie1958]

You're not making sense, Annie. No one is talking about "rejection of established rules", we're talking about open advocation of racial bias against a black President (and subsequently the black population) in America. The definition is clear, as is shown here:

CNN: Death Threats Against Obama Increase By 400 Percent | The Public Record

Report: Antagonism Towards President Obama, Changing Racial Demographics Spur U.S. Hate Group Rise | The Hinterland Gazette

NOTHING there about "liberals" or white backlash 40 years hence affirmative action. So again, how do YOU and JimBowie get from point A to point B with your assertions?

Affirmative ACtion is not needed to spur white 'backlash'. The minority prone to this stuff will find whatever reasons that they need.

Okay, so you and I are clear now that Affirmative Action IS NOT a factor in the level of anti-black racism in this country since Obama took office. Let's see what else you've got to say.

But our first black President has not been proof of moving into a 'post racial' society, but the threshold for proving one is not racist has been moved even higher. Now you are a racist if you simply think that there is no more major forms of racism in the US. How can anyone defend themselves with such ideological nuttery?

How did YOU come to this conclusion? And to whom do you accredit these assertions to?

So, some have hit their limit and are saying, 'screw it. dont care what anyone thinks' and just unloading only to discover that many others think and feel the same way.

See the previous question.

Then we have the way the Holder DOJ has refeused to prosecute blacks under hate crime violations or civil rights violations as though that is opnly for whites. The President has on several occasions jumped the gun and commented in favor of a minority in some controvercy or anoother only to find out that the early press storylines were misleading.

Back up, son. First you have to show me EXACTLY what cases you're referring to regarding the DOJ. And PUH-LEEZE get over the FACT that the PRESIDENT was asked a direct question regarding the dubious actions of local police regarding a noted historian and celebrity of whom the President is personally acquainted with. All one has to do is READ ALL THE INFORMATION on that case to see that indeed the President's assessment WAS ACCURATE. TFB if closeted sheet wearers are grinding their teeth in frustration because a black man in power spoke up for a black man wronged by cops when asked.


Whites see that kind of crap and many of them draw the wrong conclusions, that blacks only want civil rights in order to make whites more vulnerable to crime and abuse by blacks. I cant tell you how many times I have heard this said over the last twentyyears, but the evidence simply did not support it. It is not so strongly leaning toward honest law enforcement so much these past few years, and many are taking it the wrong way.

Interesting how you suddenly go general when to referring to "whites" who are just pissed over an incident that I've clarified above. Previously, you were pointing out that these people are a "minority" who are looking for any excuse to be pissed at a black President. Now suddenly, you're giving credence to such based on cases that are easily explained in light of fact based recent history.

C'mon Jimmy....you're stubbornly trying to justify the bigotry and hatred of others...and that dog of yours just won't fly...ESPECIALLY when the FBI stats contradict your personal viewpoints
FBI — Hate Crimes Remain Steady

The cop was not wrong and did his job properly, and Obama should have refrained from a statement beforre all the facts were in regardless of the kookburger being a celebrity or not.

And I was speaking of a minority of whites, not the majority at every step in this discussion.

As to what the DOJ has done, Holder has refused to prosecute for incitement to riot, bounties being offered for the detention of a person not under an arrest warrant, and of stating that he did not want to waste the departments time prosecuting civil rights cases against minorities.

Obama should have sacked him a long time ago because it plain he is not the kind of person who should be holding the second most important LEO position in the country.

 

[JimBowie1958]

And PUH-LEEZE get over the FACT that the PRESIDENT was asked a direct question regarding the dubious actions of local police regarding a noted historian and celebrity of whom the President is personally acquainted with. All one has to do is READ ALL THE INFORMATION on that case to see that indeed the President's assessment WAS ACCURATE.

Bullshit. The President spoke before he admittedly had the facts necessary to accurately assess the situation. The chief law enforcement officer in the country unjustifiably insulting law enforcement officers doing their duty is beyond inappropriate, and just one example of many indicating that obama is not fit for the office.

Newsflash, when the full case came down, Obama was RIGHT! Deal with it


Here's the outcome:
Legal Blog Watch


And here's what Obama said:

Obama: Cambridge Police "Acted Stupidly" in Arrest of Harvard Scholar Henry Louis Gates

lol, you liberals want to reduce the cops to using harsh language,.... maybe sometime.

The proffessor was ranting and raving and the cop arrested him to calm him down and shut his stupid ass up.

He is lucky he didnt get worse as in Texas and many other states I think he would have.

What is it with libtards pretending that authority figures shouldnt have the means to demand respect and order when an officer is on the scen doing an investigation?

Then they bend over backwards to defend Stalin and Mao. lol

 

[Unkotare]

And PUH-LEEZE get over the FACT that the PRESIDENT was asked a direct question regarding the dubious actions of local police regarding a noted historian and celebrity of whom the President is personally acquainted with. All one has to do is READ ALL THE INFORMATION on that case to see that indeed the President's assessment WAS ACCURATE.

Bullshit. The President spoke before he admittedly had the facts necessary to accurately assess the situation. The chief law enforcement officer in the country unjustifiably insulting law enforcement officers doing their duty is beyond inappropriate, and just one example of many indicating that obama is not fit for the office.

Newsflash, when the full case came down, Obama was RIGHT! Deal with it

Absolutely not. I lived in Cambridge at that time. It was analyzed in the news every which way for weeks. obama was not right, and even if he had been it wouldn't have justified his punk-like comments, coming as they did before he could possibly have had enough information to make an informed statement, as he later admitted himself.

 

[Unkotare]

When some one says, 'I dont like blacks, they smell weird.' That is bigotry as it isnt reflective enough to qualify as an ism. It makes no assertions other than the individuals distate for a group different from what they are used to.

Now when a person says that blacks are subhuman, feral and the criminal element the most representative of how blacks behave due to their jungle breeding*, THAT is racism.

No, they are both racist statements.

You obscure the difference between bigotry and racism for what purpose?

There is no such difference in this case as both statements are racist, so you can shove your false premise right up your ass.

 

[JimBowie1958]

No, they are both racist statements.

You obscure the difference between bigotry and racism for what purpose?

There is no such difference in this case as both statements are racist, so you can shove your false premise right up your ass.

All you have are tautologies, and you can shove them up YOUR punk ass, bitch.

 

[High_Gravity]

Whether or not there is racism, there is a significant number of black people who need racisim and have learned to rely on racism to get whatever it is they feel they are owed.

Its odd, people always say this but I have yet to have 1 Black person tell me they are owed anything from slavery or whatever.

 

[Katzndogz]

After rejecting Bakke to accept the incompentent Patrick Chavis, Bakke did go on to become a respected doctor. Patrick Chavis was never qualified to be a doctor, not with all the affirmative action in the world. His incompetence killled several patients, he lost his license and was shot to death at a Foster's Freeze in Hawthorne California.

Affirmative action is like putting lipstick on a pig. Not even the pig wearing the lipstick, just putting it up there.

Incorrect. Chavis became an OB/Gyn and worked in inner-city LA for years. It went bad when he switched to become a plastic surgeon and was accused of malpractice by three women. One died, not several.

In any case, there's no statistical correlation between AA and malpractice, and how Chavis turned out.

And once again, a little honest research takes the wind out of Katzndog's sails.

Chavis was never a respected OB/GYN. He became a plastic surgeon operating out of his office because he lost hospital privileges.

Cathy Chavis, one of his former wives and who worked in his office for nine years, has testified to the state medical board that the doctor was "wrong a number of times," about the age of a fetus. In one case, she said, after Chavis removed the arm of a fetus, the patient was determined to be eight months pregnant. The patient was then taken to the hospital to deliver the baby. According to Cathy, Chavis would keep the fetus in formaldehyde for up to 30 days. She never knew what he did with remains but said that one day the sink in the office backed up and she saw "pieces of bone and fingers."

There were also problems with deliveries. At Long Beach Memorial Hospital, Chavis used forceps to pull a baby out of a woman not sufficiently dilated. In that situation, hospital policy called for a cesarean and administrators, always wary of lawsuits, had Chavis monitored. He charged that he had been singled out for discipline not given to whites and filed a discrimination suit. The hospital said it was simply a question of substandard medical practices. Chavis was offered $750,000 out of court but turned it down. The court awarded him $1.1 million but this was overturned on appeal and he got nothing. Chavis also maintained a running conflict with St. Francis Hospital, just down the street from his Lynwood office, charging that administrators there discriminated racially against nurses and practiced unfair competition against Martin Luther King Hospita
FrontPage Magazine - Affirmative Action in Action: Doctor No

Not having privileges at any hospital, Chavis started doing plastic surgery out of an office clinic but hiding his dying failures in his home.

the "difference" Chavis made in the lives of several young black women involved gruesome pain -- and death -- as a result of botched "body sculpting" operations at his clinic. An administrative law judge found Chavis guilty of gross negligence and incompetence in the treatment of three patients. Yolanda Mukhalian lost 70 percent of her blood after Chavis hid her in his home for 40 hours following a bungled liposuction; she miraculously survived. The other survivor, Valerie Lawrence, also experienced severe bleeding following the surgery; after Lawrence's sister took her to a hospital emergency room, Chavis barged in and discharged his suffering patient -- still hooked up to her IV and catheter -- and also stashed her in his home. Tammaria Cotton bled to death and suffered full cardiac arrest after Chavis performed fly-by-night liposuction on her and then disappeared. In 1997, the Medical Board of California suspended Chavis' license, warning of his "inability to perform some of the most basic duties required of a physician." In a statement filed by a psychiatrist, the state demonstrated Chavis' "poor impulse control and insensitivity to patients' pain." A tape recording of "horrific screaming" by patients in Chavis' office revealed the doctor responding callously: "Don't talk to the doctor while he is working" and "Liar, liar, pants on fire."

The life and death of Patrick Chavis - Michelle Malkin - Townhall Conservative Columnists

Because Patrick Chavis was able to play the race card successfully he was able to keep killing women long after a white doctor would have lost his license and gone to prison.

 

[code1211]

And PUH-LEEZE get over the FACT that the PRESIDENT was asked a direct question regarding the dubious actions of local police regarding a noted historian and celebrity of whom the President is personally acquainted with. All one has to do is READ ALL THE INFORMATION on that case to see that indeed the President's assessment WAS ACCURATE.

Bullshit. The President spoke before he admittedly had the facts necessary to accurately assess the situation. The chief law enforcement officer in the country unjustifiably insulting law enforcement officers doing their duty is beyond inappropriate, and just one example of many indicating that obama is not fit for the office.

Newsflash, when the full case came down, Obama was RIGHT! Deal with it


Here's the outcome:
Legal Blog Watch


And here's what Obama said:

Obama: Cambridge Police "Acted Stupidly" in Arrest of Harvard Scholar Henry Louis Gates

How many arrests were there in the USA that day?

How many of those arrests did the President comment upon.

How much more information came out on this after the President made his pronouncement?

 

[code1211]

Whether or not there is racism, there is a significant number of black people who need racisim and have learned to rely on racism to get whatever it is they feel they are owed.

Its odd, people always say this but I have yet to have 1 Black person tell me they are owed anything from slavery or whatever.

BBC NEWS | Americas | US blacks demand slavery reparations

 

[bucs90]

Not racists. But many are extremely tired of the constant violence in the black community, then the parade of folks calling us racist for not wanting to be near that culture, or for daring mention that the problem exists at all.

After all, whats a bigger society problem? White racists? Or mass black criminals? If you could end one of the two situations, which would leave society better off?

 

[William Joyce]

I m not talking about mere bigotry or preference for ones own. The sspread of white attitudes that dismiss blacks as sub-human, in effect, is becoming more blatant with each day.

Would you prefer that white attitudes reflect street-level reality, or the TV commercial where the clean-cut black guy and girl are out to dinner with the white guy and girl, like that kind of shit happens all the time?

Dehumanizing blacks, not so good. But recognizing that their behavior is VERY, VERY different from ours is just taking stock of reality. They seriously do act like animals. What the fuck are we supposed to do about that? Pretend it's not happening?

 

[Unkotare]

Would you prefer that white attitudes reflect street-level reality, or the TV commercial where the clean-cut black guy and girl are out to dinner with the white guy and girl, like that kind of shit happens all the time?

That does happen "all the time" you fucking idiot. If you weren't so busy hiding in Mommy's basement you might see some more of the world than your daily feed from stormfront, you ridiculous fucking coward.

 

[mikecushman]

If people dont say it then it doesn't exist, youre never gonna get people to stop hating other people for no good reason, Cain killed Abel and they were the third and fourth people ever supposedly, at least now people keep it private and don't hurt others by it, racism is a terrible thing, a plague on our society and hate wont go away in our conceivable future, not as long as there are ways to compare people to others

 

[mikecushman]

Call it the banshee crying out for its death then, hate isn't going anywhere but hate based on skin color is in the past, it will just be a matter of time before people turn on something/somebody else to mindlessly hate.