GOP members offer amendment to force Congress to participate in public option

[Meister]

So tell us RW? WHY won't the MEMBERS of Congress sign ON to what they wish to IMPOSE on their Subjects?

I expect NO straight answer from you.

What exactly are they imposing on teh nation?

Less than what the politicians are offered.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

So tell us RW? WHY won't the MEMBERS of Congress sign ON to what they wish to IMPOSE on their Subjects?

I expect NO straight answer from you.

What exactly are they imposing on teh nation?

Less than what the politicians are offered.

There you have a point, because the GOP and the right will fight a single payer system. Under a single payer system we would all have equal access. Introducing a private component would probably be the way around treatment options...for those that could afford it.

 

[Meister]

What exactly are they imposing on teh nation?

Less than what the politicians are offered.

There you have a point, because the GOP and the right will fight a single payer system. Under a single payer system we would all have equal access. Introducing a private component would probably be the way around treatment options...for those that could afford it.

Your assumption is wrong, Dev. Politicians wouldn't be covered under the single payer system. They will have plenty of options that aren't offered to you, or I.
Most of the politicians don't want the single payer system for their coverage...that does mean Dems, also.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Less than what the politicians are offered.

There you have a point, because the GOP and the right will fight a single payer system. Under a single payer system we would all have equal access. Introducing a private component would probably be the way around treatment options...for those that could afford it.

Your assumption is wrong, Dev. Politicians wouldn't be covered under the single payer system. They will have plenty of options that aren't offered to you, or I.
Most of the politicians don't want the single payer system for their coverage...that does mean Dems, also.

Wrong? If we had universal coverage and a single payer system,w e would all be part of the same plan...excepting any private insurance people add on.

I think the GOP is playing games with a life and death issue and the Dems are trying to get simething passed...anything, that can be built on later. We in America need health care reform and we need universal access to care. We are a wealthy society and the dog eat dog attitude of many is reprehensible and un-American.

I do not begrudge others a plan that would cover extras, whatever that would be, but there must be a standard of access that assures people in this great and wealthy nation do not die because of denial of access to health care or go bankrupt because they get ill.

 

[The T]

Less than what the politicians are offered.

There you have a point, because the GOP and the right will fight a single payer system. Under a single payer system we would all have equal access. Introducing a private component would probably be the way around treatment options...for those that could afford it.

Your assumption is wrong, Dev. Politicians wouldn't be covered under the single payer system. They will have plenty of options that aren't offered to you, or I.
Most of the politicians don't want the single payer system for their coverage...that does mean Dems, also.

Correct. The Amendment that was fronted by Republicans that spoke to this wasn't even allowed on the FLOOR by the Statist Leadership (Pelosi).

 

[The T]

There you have a point, because the GOP and the right will fight a single payer system. Under a single payer system we would all have equal access. Introducing a private component would probably be the way around treatment options...for those that could afford it.

Your assumption is wrong, Dev. Politicians wouldn't be covered under the single payer system. They will have plenty of options that aren't offered to you, or I.
Most of the politicians don't want the single payer system for their coverage...that does mean Dems, also.

Wrong? If we had universal coverage and a single payer system,w e would all be part of the same plan...excepting any private insurance people add on.

I think the GOP is playing games with a life and death issue and the Dems are trying to get simething passed...anything, that can be built on later. We in America need health care reform and we need universal access to care. We are a wealthy society and the dog eat dog attitude of many is reprehensible and un-American.

I do not begrudge others a plan that would cover extras, whatever that would be, but there must be a standard of access that assures people in this great and wealthy nation do not die because of denial of access to health care or go bankrupt because they get ill.

WHY was the Republican Amendment not even allowed? Why was it defeated?

 

[MaggieMae]

Jeeze. Can't be the same Olberman I watched a few times. Talk about a walking talking breathing liberal. Boy. The only thing fair and balanced about his show is possibly his dick. I have strong reservations about that also. He's almost as bad ad Rachel Madow. If you only want to hear one side of an issue by all means listen to Olberman and Madow. You'll get your liberal fix for sure.

Neither Olbermann nor Maddow profess to be anything BUT liberals. That said, I usually find bigger dickheads if I happen to turn on FOX.

 

[MaggieMae]

There you have a point, because the GOP and the right will fight a single payer system. Under a single payer system we would all have equal access. Introducing a private component would probably be the way around treatment options...for those that could afford it.

Your assumption is wrong, Dev. Politicians wouldn't be covered under the single payer system. They will have plenty of options that aren't offered to you, or I.
Most of the politicians don't want the single payer system for their coverage...that does mean Dems, also.

Correct. The Amendment that was fronted by Republicans that spoke to this wasn't even allowed on the FLOOR by the Statist Leadership (Pelosi).

Because it was a joke. One you apparently didn't get.

 

[Claudette]

Really Maggie. If this public option is so great then I should think those pushing it, Pelosi and her looney left crew, would be the first in line to take advantage of this primo plant. Kinda funny that they aren't.

As for dickheads. Can't find two better ones that Olberman and Maddow. What a pair of liberal idiots. Personally I'll take the "dickheads" on Fox anyday and if rating are any indication, so will millions of other viewers.

 

[Care4all]

GOP members offer amendment to force Congress to participate in public option
By Tony Romm - 11/04/09 01:42 PM ET

Five House Republicans hope to add to Democrats' healthcare reform bill an amendment that would automatically enroll members of Congress in the public option program.

The effort, spearheaded by Reps. John Fleming (La.), Joe Wilson (S.C.), Wally Herger (Calif.), Phil Gingrey (Ga.) and Steve Scalise (La.), would bar lawmakers from participating in the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, which they currently use for health insurance. Instead, members would have to rely on the Health Insurance Exchange and the public option plan House Democrats are proposing in their latest healthcare reform effort.

“If Speaker [Nancy] Pelosi [D-Calif.] and her Democratic counterparts truly believe that their government insurance option is the best way forward for healthcare in the United States, then they should be fully supportive of amending the bill to ensure that every single member of Congress, both in the House and Senate, is enrolled in it," explained Rep. Gingrey, who is leading the new campaign.

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Sounds sensible to me. Last time I checked? Members of Government were citizens too. If it's good for US, then I'ts good for them too.

Pretty gutsy amendment if you ask me.

I'm fine with that, of course it is nothing more than the usual hyperbole, and notice which states the honorable gentlemen represent. If I were a member I would simply add this rider - 'No state may receive more in federal revenue sharing than that state contributes to the Federal Revenue'.

Wow! That's calculating.
Wyoming will just have to suck it up in your world.

But why not? Otherwise it is what you guys call, "socialism"?

just playing devil's advocate here....but, if you do not believe in taking the money of others to use towards those who were or are not as successful or prosperous, then you should not be taking other people's money for those in wyoming? Unless i misunderstood your point Meister?

Can you see what i am trying to say? Hurting states should not be supported by prosperous states, not if you do not believe in taking from others that "have" and giving it to those of the "have nots", no?

 

[Care4all]

In the Bill, is the Public Option FORCED on to anyone in the usa?

The answer is NO, it is not...it is just an option, another choice, for people to choose from, isn;t it?

Why oh why, would they want to force congress to go on this plan option when they give everyone else the OPTION to choose it...shouldn't congress be like all other citizens?

Why would these guys want to separate congress from all other citizens on this?

I don;t understand the point of these dudes trying to do this?

AGAIN, are people being FORCED in to the public option in any of these bills?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

AGAIN, are people being FORCED in to the public option in any of these bills?

Yes. There are provisions that once your private coverage changes in ANY way, you are forced to move onto the public option or national health insurance or whatever monniker they hang on it. It is the biggest cluster fuck of the American public in history.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

In other words, you can keep your private insurance so long as the premium never changes and the coverage never change. Loosely translated - FUCK YOU.

 

[rightwinger]

AGAIN, are people being FORCED in to the public option in any of these bills?

Yes. There are provisions that once your private coverage changes in ANY way, you are forced to move onto the public option or national health insurance or whatever monniker they hang on it. It is the biggest cluster fuck of the American public in history.

There are no such provisions...

Nice try though

 

[NYcarbineer]

AGAIN, are people being FORCED in to the public option in any of these bills?

Yes. There are provisions that once your private coverage changes in ANY way, you are forced to move onto the public option or national health insurance or whatever monniker they hang on it. It is the biggest cluster fuck of the American public in history.

That is...like... TOTally crap.

 

[oreo]

GOP members offer amendment to force Congress to participate in public option
By Tony Romm - 11/04/09 01:42 PM ET

Five House Republicans hope to add to Democrats' healthcare reform bill an amendment that would automatically enroll members of Congress in the public option program.

The effort, spearheaded by Reps. John Fleming (La.), Joe Wilson (S.C.), Wally Herger (Calif.), Phil Gingrey (Ga.) and Steve Scalise (La.), would bar lawmakers from participating in the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, which they currently use for health insurance. Instead, members would have to rely on the Health Insurance Exchange and the public option plan House Democrats are proposing in their latest healthcare reform effort.

“If Speaker [Nancy] Pelosi [D-Calif.] and her Democratic counterparts truly believe that their government insurance option is the best way forward for healthcare in the United States, then they should be fully supportive of amending the bill to ensure that every single member of Congress, both in the House and Senate, is enrolled in it," explained Rep. Gingrey, who is leading the new campaign.

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Sounds sensible to me. Last time I checked? Members of Government were citizens too. If it's good for US, then I'ts good for them too.

Pretty gutsy amendment if you ask me.

Great Idea--doubt it will make it to the floor though--Nancy Pelosi will cut off that micro-phone so fast--you won't even see it.

 

[SFC Ollie]

GOP members offer amendment to force Congress to participate in public option
By Tony Romm - 11/04/09 01:42 PM ET

Five House Republicans hope to add to Democrats' healthcare reform bill an amendment that would automatically enroll members of Congress in the public option program.

The effort, spearheaded by Reps. John Fleming (La.), Joe Wilson (S.C.), Wally Herger (Calif.), Phil Gingrey (Ga.) and Steve Scalise (La.), would bar lawmakers from participating in the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, which they currently use for health insurance. Instead, members would have to rely on the Health Insurance Exchange and the public option plan House Democrats are proposing in their latest healthcare reform effort.

“If Speaker [Nancy] Pelosi [D-Calif.] and her Democratic counterparts truly believe that their government insurance option is the best way forward for healthcare in the United States, then they should be fully supportive of amending the bill to ensure that every single member of Congress, both in the House and Senate, is enrolled in it," explained Rep. Gingrey, who is leading the new campaign.

______________________

Sounds sensible to me. Last time I checked? Members of Government were citizens too. If it's good for US, then I'ts good for them too.

Pretty gutsy amendment if you ask me.

Great Idea--doubt it will make it to the floor though--Nancy Pelosi will cut off that micro-phone so fast--you won't even see it.

Of course it won't this is the "Do as we say not as we do" Congress.

 

[rightwinger]

GOP members offer amendment to force Congress to participate in public option
By Tony Romm - 11/04/09 01:42 PM ET

Five House Republicans hope to add to Democrats' healthcare reform bill an amendment that would automatically enroll members of Congress in the public option program.

The effort, spearheaded by Reps. John Fleming (La.), Joe Wilson (S.C.), Wally Herger (Calif.), Phil Gingrey (Ga.) and Steve Scalise (La.), would bar lawmakers from participating in the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, which they currently use for health insurance. Instead, members would have to rely on the Health Insurance Exchange and the public option plan House Democrats are proposing in their latest healthcare reform effort.

“If Speaker [Nancy] Pelosi [D-Calif.] and her Democratic counterparts truly believe that their government insurance option is the best way forward for healthcare in the United States, then they should be fully supportive of amending the bill to ensure that every single member of Congress, both in the House and Senate, is enrolled in it," explained Rep. Gingrey, who is leading the new campaign.

______________________

Sounds sensible to me. Last time I checked? Members of Government were citizens too. If it's good for US, then I'ts good for them too.

Pretty gutsy amendment if you ask me.

Great Idea--doubt it will make it to the floor though--Nancy Pelosi will cut off that micro-phone so fast--you won't even see it.

Of course it won't this is the "Do as we say not as we do" Congress.

Congress will have the same "Option" the public does.
Thats what "Option" means

 

[Polk]

In the Bill, is the Public Option FORCED on to anyone in the usa?

The answer is NO, it is not...it is just an option, another choice, for people to choose from, isn;t it?

Why oh why, would they want to force congress to go on this plan option when they give everyone else the OPTION to choose it...shouldn't congress be like all other citizens?

Why would these guys want to separate congress from all other citizens on this?

I don;t understand the point of these dudes trying to do this?

AGAIN, are people being FORCED in to the public option in any of these bills?

Exactly, but they're going to spin their wheels trying to figure out a retort.

 

[Polk]

AGAIN, are people being FORCED in to the public option in any of these bills?

Yes. There are provisions that once your private coverage changes in ANY way, you are forced to move onto the public option or national health insurance or whatever monniker they hang on it. It is the biggest cluster fuck of the American public in history.

That's not true.