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[American_Jihad]

Why Did Hamas Provoke a Conflict?

by Elliott Abrams
November 15, 2012


There is a conflict now between Israel and Hamas because Hamas insisted on starting one. After relatively few rocket and mortar strikes into Israel in 2010 and 2011, Hamas increased the numbers strikingly this year, and finally fired more than 100 into Israel this past weekend. This was a deliberate effort by Hamas to elicit an Israeli response, for it was obvious that as the numbers grew any Israeli government would have to protect its population. One must assume that if Israel had not responded to the hundred rockets last weekend, Hamas would have upped the ante even more until it got what it wanted.
The question is why. Why did Hamas want to provoke an Israeli attack?

I would offer two theories. First, in recent months the Palestinian Authority under Hamas’s enemies in Fatah has been doing better than has Hamas. While the PA has been and remains short of cash, its initiative at the UN to raise itself to “non-member state” status looks like it will succeed. Meanwhile, Hamas has been forced to leave its long-time headquarters in Damascus, and the advent of a Muslim Brotherhood government in Egypt has done nothing for Hamas. The border is still largely closed and worse yet for Hamas the Egyptians are destroying the smuggling tunnels that bring Hamas income and bring Gazans goods. So Hamas may have wanted to get back to center stage, reminding people that while the PA talks, it acts. The events of the last few days have, as Hamas must have liked, pushed the PA to the margins and made it seem irrelevant.

Second, Hamas commits acts of terror because it is a terrorist organization. By this I mean that no Hamas leader glories in collecting garbage in Gaza, or even in receiving the Emir of Qatar’s money when he visits. The glory comes in fighting, and killing–but since the last round with the Israelis in January 2009 Hamas has not only been very careful. It has also restrained other terrorist groups like Islamic Jihad from firing into Israel. This situation cannot be attractive to Hamas’s leaders, and they know they risk losing the loyalty of many young men in Gaza to other more active groups if it goes on for too long. So, they have decided to provoke a conflict.
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http://blogs.cfr.org/abrams/2012/11/15/why-did-hamas-provoke-a-conflict/

here is a hint

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIBKlVJCffQ]Warsaw Ghetto Uprising Testimony Clips - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS2t2e76o8I]Muslim girl quotes quran: jews are apes and pigs - YouTube[/ame]

Little islamic beast​

 

[georgephillip]

Why Did Hamas Provoke a Conflict?

by Elliott Abrams
November 15, 2012


There is a conflict now between Israel and Hamas because Hamas insisted on starting one. After relatively few rocket and mortar strikes into Israel in 2010 and 2011, Hamas increased the numbers strikingly this year, and finally fired more than 100 into Israel this past weekend. This was a deliberate effort by Hamas to elicit an Israeli response, for it was obvious that as the numbers grew any Israeli government would have to protect its population. One must assume that if Israel had not responded to the hundred rockets last weekend, Hamas would have upped the ante even more until it got what it wanted.
The question is why. Why did Hamas want to provoke an Israeli attack?

I would offer two theories. First, in recent months the Palestinian Authority under Hamas’s enemies in Fatah has been doing better than has Hamas. While the PA has been and remains short of cash, its initiative at the UN to raise itself to “non-member state” status looks like it will succeed. Meanwhile, Hamas has been forced to leave its long-time headquarters in Damascus, and the advent of a Muslim Brotherhood government in Egypt has done nothing for Hamas. The border is still largely closed and worse yet for Hamas the Egyptians are destroying the smuggling tunnels that bring Hamas income and bring Gazans goods. So Hamas may have wanted to get back to center stage, reminding people that while the PA talks, it acts. The events of the last few days have, as Hamas must have liked, pushed the PA to the margins and made it seem irrelevant.

Second, Hamas commits acts of terror because it is a terrorist organization. By this I mean that no Hamas leader glories in collecting garbage in Gaza, or even in receiving the Emir of Qatar’s money when he visits. The glory comes in fighting, and killing–but since the last round with the Israelis in January 2009 Hamas has not only been very careful. It has also restrained other terrorist groups like Islamic Jihad from firing into Israel. This situation cannot be attractive to Hamas’s leaders, and they know they risk losing the loyalty of many young men in Gaza to other more active groups if it goes on for too long. So, they have decided to provoke a conflict.
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http://blogs.cfr.org/abrams/2012/11/15/why-did-hamas-provoke-a-conflict/

Why did Israel assassinate one of its subcontractors?

"Ahmed Jabari was a subcontractor, in charge of maintaining Israel's security in Gaza. [...] Israel demanded of Hamas that it observe the truce in the south and enforce it on the multiplicity of armed organizations in the Gaza Strip. The man responsible for carrying out this policy was Ahmed Jabari.

"In return for enforcing the quiet, which was never perfect, Israel funded the Hamas regime through the flow of shekels in armored trucks to banks in Gaza, and continued to supply infrastructure and medical services to the inhabitants of the Gaza Strip.

"Jabari was also Israel's partner in the negotiations for the release of Gilad Shalit; it was he who ensured the captive soldier's welfare and safety, and it was he who saw to Shalit's return home last fall."

Haaretz Jaabari | Al Akhbar English

 

[MHunterB]

jos is playing "thump on ape chest ----gutter thug" again

What do you mean, Rosie? That's what he's like at his very BEST.

 

[American_Jihad]

Hamas Fires Rocket at Jerusalem, Hits Arab Village​

November 20, 2012
By Daniel Greenfield

This is why most people assumed, wrongly, that no Arab group or nation would actually try to bomb Jerusalem. Not only does Jerusalem have a sizable Arab population but it’s close enough to any number of Arab Muslim villages in the West Bank that it’s hard to try and hit it, especially with poorly aimed rockets, without also hitting them.

Notably Hamas knows all this and simply does not care. Despite all the claims by its members about being eager to die for Al Quds, the Islamic name for Jerusalem, they have no problem firing rockets at Jerusalem that could just as easily hit their own Dome of the Rock or any of the Arab areas.

Hamas is out to do damage. It’s out to score points by being able to brag about hitting Jerusalem. It does not care about Muslim casualties or damage to its so-called holy places.

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Hamas Fires Rocket at Jerusalem, Hits Arab Village

 

[American_Jihad]

Israel: Muslim students protest for Hamas in Jerusalem, until they have to flee Hamas rockets

Posted by Robert on November 20, 2012

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IZbBCBt2s8o]Arab students whos protesting for the hamas, run away when the siren comes, result of hamas rockets - YouTube[/ame]

Oh, the irony.

Video thanks to Maggie's Farm, on which I ain't gonna work no more, where there is this explanation:

Israel is a democracy, with rights of free speech, petition, and protest. The tiny number of far left Israelis are vocal and often ally with radical Arab-Israelis. In this video today, they held a protest in Jerusalem against Israel bombing Gaza. Then, they scurried away as soon as the air raid siren went off that a rocket may come in from Gaza.

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Israel: Muslim students protest for Hamas in Jerusalem, until they have to flee Hamas rockets - Jihad Watch

 

[P F Tinmore]

Why Did Hamas Provoke a Conflict?

by Elliott Abrams
November 15, 2012


There is a conflict now between Israel and Hamas because Hamas insisted on starting one. After relatively few rocket and mortar strikes into Israel in 2010 and 2011, Hamas increased the numbers strikingly this year, and finally fired more than 100 into Israel this past weekend. This was a deliberate effort by Hamas to elicit an Israeli response, for it was obvious that as the numbers grew any Israeli government would have to protect its population. One must assume that if Israel had not responded to the hundred rockets last weekend, Hamas would have upped the ante even more until it got what it wanted.
The question is why. Why did Hamas want to provoke an Israeli attack?

I would offer two theories. First, in recent months the Palestinian Authority under Hamas’s enemies in Fatah has been doing better than has Hamas. While the PA has been and remains short of cash, its initiative at the UN to raise itself to “non-member state” status looks like it will succeed. Meanwhile, Hamas has been forced to leave its long-time headquarters in Damascus, and the advent of a Muslim Brotherhood government in Egypt has done nothing for Hamas. The border is still largely closed and worse yet for Hamas the Egyptians are destroying the smuggling tunnels that bring Hamas income and bring Gazans goods. So Hamas may have wanted to get back to center stage, reminding people that while the PA talks, it acts. The events of the last few days have, as Hamas must have liked, pushed the PA to the margins and made it seem irrelevant.

Second, Hamas commits acts of terror because it is a terrorist organization. By this I mean that no Hamas leader glories in collecting garbage in Gaza, or even in receiving the Emir of Qatar’s money when he visits. The glory comes in fighting, and killing–but since the last round with the Israelis in January 2009 Hamas has not only been very careful. It has also restrained other terrorist groups like Islamic Jihad from firing into Israel. This situation cannot be attractive to Hamas’s leaders, and they know they risk losing the loyalty of many young men in Gaza to other more active groups if it goes on for too long. So, they have decided to provoke a conflict.
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http://blogs.cfr.org/abrams/2012/11/15/why-did-hamas-provoke-a-conflict/

Indeed. The Palestinians started this war a hundred years ago when they went to Europe and attacked the Zionists.

 

[irosie91]

tinnie the only palestinians that existed 100 years ago----were the jews who lived in the area of the OTTOMAN empire----that the romans renamed 'palestine' ie mostly the old Israel/judea-----once there few visited Europe-----why would the palestinian jews attack european jews?-----100 years ago they were just beginning to try to defend against the ongoing arab muslim barbarity try to remember a bit of history

 

[P F Tinmore]

tinnie the only palestinians that existed 100 years ago----were the jews who lived in the area of the OTTOMAN empire----that the romans renamed 'palestine' ie mostly the old Israel/judea-----once there few visited Europe-----why would the palestinian jews attack european jews?-----100 years ago they were just beginning to try to defend against the ongoing arab muslim barbarity try to remember a bit of history

 

[docmauser1]

Indeed. The Palestinians started this war a hundred years ago when they went to Europe and attacked the Zionists.

Nah, those alleged "palistinians" didn't know yet that "palestine" existed at all, of course.

 

[Indofred]

We have a rapidly changing situation in many middle eastern countries.
The very well armed Egypt is siding with it's allies in Gaza for the first time since the American funded dictator got kicked out and several other countries, all very well armed by the US of Arse, are shifting politically.
Most murdering governments last less than a hundred years, I really don't see Israel breaking the usual chain of events.

 

[docmauser1]

The very well armed Egypt is siding with it's allies in Gaza

Verbally, maybe.

for the first time since the American funded dictator got kicked out

Since Murzi stands to get $12 bln. of the US-EU "development" money, missing it is not an option, of course.

 

[American_Jihad]

The Deadly Israeli House​

December 5, 2012
By Daniel Greenfield

There are few weapons as deadly as the Israeli house. When its bricks and mortar are combined together, the house, whether it is one of those modest one-story hilltop affairs or a five-floor apartment building complete with hot and cold running water, becomes far more dangerous than anything green and glowing that comes out of the Iranian centrifuges.

Forget the cluster bomb and the mine, the poison gas shell and even tailored viruses. Iran can keep its nuclear bombs. They don’t impress anyone in Europe or in Washington, DC. Genocide is equally not worthy of attention when in the presence of the fearsome weapon of terror that is an Israeli family of four moving into a new apartment downwind from Jerusalem.

Sudan may have built a small mountain of African corpses, but it can’t expect to command the full and undivided attention of the world until it does something truly outrageous like building a house and filling it with Jews. Since the Sudanese Jews are as gone as the Jews of Egypt, Iraq, Syria and good old Afghanistan, the chances of Bashir the Butcher pulling off that trick are rather slim.

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The Deadly Israeli House

 

[proudveteran06]

But not in it's present form

Israel will never agree to Borders that the Arabs themselves have never Honored or Respected or allow " Right of Return". It's that simple. Again.... Tell us exactly what the Palestinians are doing to " negotiate?" Oh.... Keep forgetting. There is NEVER an answer lol

 

[P F Tinmore]

But not in it's present form

Israel will never agree to Borders that the Arabs themselves have never Honored or Respected or allow " Right of Return". It's that simple. Again.... Tell us exactly what the Palestinians are doing to " negotiate?" Oh.... Keep forgetting. There is NEVER an answer lol

Negotiations is an Abbas fantasy.

 

[Roudy]

Her's another hint:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DaTjH4pqkdI]Arabs for Israel - Muslims for Israel - Dr.Tawfik Hamid - YouTube[/ame]

 

[georgephillip]

But not in it's present form

Israel will never agree to Borders that the Arabs themselves have never Honored or Respected or allow " Right of Return". It's that simple. Again.... Tell us exactly what the Palestinians are doing to " negotiate?" Oh.... Keep forgetting. There is NEVER an answer lol

Blame those killer kosher houses, Golda.

 

[P F Tinmore]

jos is playing "thump on ape chest ----gutter thug" again

What do you mean, Rosie? That's what he's like at his very BEST.

Are you still handing out negative reps because you can't debate?

 

[docmauser1]

Blame those killer kosher houses, Golda.

Indeed, the dream of plundering them is still disturbing the arab mind.

 

[eots]

Blame those killer kosher houses, Golda.

Indeed, the dream of plundering them is still disturbing the arab mind.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqJ-JR_vBo0]THIS IS MY LAND - YouTube[/ame]

 

[proudveteran06]

But not in it's present form

Israel will never agree to Borders that the Arabs themselves have never Honored or Respected or allow " Right of Return". It's that simple. Again.... Tell us exactly what the Palestinians are doing to " negotiate?" Oh.... Keep forgetting. There is NEVER an answer lol

Blame those killer kosher houses, Golda.

Still no answer you Pro- Palestinian Kool- Aid Drinker. There never is. Haven't seen any Pro- Israeli poster on the Board refer to themselves as " The Chosen People". Keep talking to yourself; You will feel better