Get Used to It: Israel Is Here to Stay

[kvetch]

The Jewish Palestine was a British plot that flopped. Britain cut and ran.

Jewish Palestine was a British plot? No, Palestine was a region owned by the Ottomans for 600 years and then the British and the French took control of and many other regions, after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire after WWII. The Arabs had jackshit to say about it. Many countries were carved out all of them Arab and Islamic, and one Jewish which comprised of less than 1% of the land. The filthy violent intolerance Arabs couldn't even agree to that and attacked the newly formed state of Israel and got their butts handed to them. They attempted many times later on and STILL got their butts handed to them.

You assume that Israel won the 1948 war. It did not. Israel came out of the 1948 war without one square inch of land to its name.

kindly explain

i know what you mean i think but others need enlightening

 

[kvetch]

You wrote that Isfrael is its own worst enemy, but didn't write why. I would say you suck at arguing

well i will try and enlighten you tho i fear its casting pearls

israel to jews like half of me means 2 different things

the jewish peiple which i whole heartedly support

then the country; stolen land of palestine which i think is a self destructive project which is a big threat to israel the people

 

[Lipush]

you support the Jewish people? Could have fooled us. mmhm.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Jewish Palestine was a British plot? No, Palestine was a region owned by the Ottomans for 600 years and then the British and the French took control of and many other regions, after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire after WWII. The Arabs had jackshit to say about it. Many countries were carved out all of them Arab and Islamic, and one Jewish which comprised of less than 1% of the land. The filthy violent intolerance Arabs couldn't even agree to that and attacked the newly formed state of Israel and got their butts handed to them. They attempted many times later on and STILL got their butts handed to them.

You assume that Israel won the 1948 war. It did not. Israel came out of the 1948 war without one square inch of land to its name.

kindly explain

i know what you mean i think but others need enlightening

The fighting in the 1948 war ended when a UN Security Council resolution called for an armistice. An armistice ends hostilities without anyone surrendering. There are no winners or losers. The result is that Israel won no land in that war.

A good summery of the armistice agreements, that Israel signed can be found here:

www.usmessageboard.com/israel-and-p...-it-israel-is-here-to-stay-4.html#post6241189

 

[mudwhistle]

Get Used to It: Israel Is Here to Stay​

Not if Obama can help it.

 

[kvetch]

Jewish Palestine was a British plot? No, Palestine was a region owned by the Ottomans for 600 years and then the British and the French took control of and many other regions, after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire after WWII. The Arabs had jackshit to say about it. Many countries were carved out all of them Arab and Islamic, and one Jewish which comprised of less than 1% of the land. The filthy violent intolerance Arabs couldn't even agree to that and attacked the newly formed state of Israel and got their butts handed to them. They attempted many times later on and STILL got their butts handed to them.

You assume that Israel won the 1948 war. It did not. Israel came out of the 1948 war without one square inch of land to its name.

The goal of the 1948 war for the Arabs was to drive the Jews to the sea
The goal of the 1948 war for the Jews was survival


The Arabs did not suceed in getting rid of the Jews
The Jews did suceed in surviving


Also, Israel didn't even have a real army then , whereas the surrounding countries that attacked Israel did and had much more troops and weaponry.

I would say Israel definately won the war

all you can do toastie is to parrot zionist cliches and lies

here's the truth from an ISRAELI historian; exerpt of wikipedia

Pappé is one of Israel's New Historians who, since the release of pertinent British and Israeli government documents in the early 1980s, have been rewriting the history of Israel's creation in 1948, and the corresponding expulsion or flight of 700,000 Palestinians in the same year. He has written that the expulsions were not decided on an ad hoc basis, as other historians have argued, but constituted the ethnic cleansing of Palestine, in accordance with Plan Dalet, drawn up in 1947 by Israel's future leaders.[7] He blames the creation of Israel for the lack of peace in the Middle East, arguing that Zionism is more dangerous than Islamic militancy, and has called for an international boycott of Israeli academics.[8][9]

Pappé supports the one-state solution, which envisages a binational state for Palestinians and Israelis.[10]

His work has been both supported and criticized by other historians. Before he left Israel in 2008, he had been condemned in the Knesset, Israel's parliament; a minister of education had called for him to be sacked; his photograph had appeared in a newspaper at the centre of a target; and he had received several death threats.[11]

note how free israel truly is when truth is told.....he was threatened...

 

[irosie91]

Pappe is a man who depends on sensationalism in order to earn his bread------only idiots swallow WHOLE----the crap that failed scholars sing to earn their supper

 

[kvetch]

For it is almost inconceivable that a few million citizens of a newly established nation could successfully resist the military onslaught of vastly larger armies time and again

Yet the US of A did it twice against the best millitary in the world.

the USA lost to the vietnamese peasants

turned iraq into a pro iran shi ite muslim fascist state

has lost to the taliban

failed in lebanon and somalia

only recent success i can think of is kosovo where not a single yankee cowboy boot ever stood

and obama putting osama out of his misery

and USA is too cowardly and bankrupt now to deal with iran

 

[P F Tinmore]

Pappe is a man who depends on sensationalism in order to earn his bread------only idiots swallow WHOLE----the crap that failed scholars sing to earn their supper

Everybody who does not suck up to Israel gets slimed.

What a coincidence.

 

[irosie91]

Pappe is a man who depends on sensationalism in order to earn his bread------only idiots swallow WHOLE----the crap that failed scholars sing to earn their supper

Everybody who does not suck up to Israel gets slimed.

What a coincidence.

the phrase SUCK UP is very vulgar------save that SUCKING for the mosque where it belongs Pappe is STILL ALIVE------and has no fear of being murdered for his writings----now tell us about the people who write books and make movies and write articles not "SUCKING UP " (to paraphrase a vulgar slob) TO THE RAPIST PIG

 

[P F Tinmore]

Pappe is a man who depends on sensationalism in order to earn his bread------only idiots swallow WHOLE----the crap that failed scholars sing to earn their supper

Everybody who does not suck up to Israel gets slimed.

What a coincidence.

the phrase SUCK UP is very vulgar------save that SUCKING for the mosque where it belongs Pappe is STILL ALIVE------and has no fear of being murdered for his writings----now tell us about the people who write books and make movies and write articles not "SUCKING UP " (to paraphrase a vulgar slob) TO THE RAPIST PIG

He had to move to Britain.

 

[irosie91]

Everybody who does not suck up to Israel gets slimed.

What a coincidence.

the phrase SUCK UP is very vulgar------save that SUCKING for the mosque where it belongs Pappe is STILL ALIVE------and has no fear of being murdered for his writings----now tell us about the people who write books and make movies and write articles not "SUCKING UP " (to paraphrase a vulgar slob) TO THE RAPIST PIG

He had to move to Britain.

wrong---he did not HAVE TO-----he chose to------had he stayed in Israel----he would still be alive

 

[P F Tinmore]

the phrase SUCK UP is very vulgar------save that SUCKING for the mosque where it belongs Pappe is STILL ALIVE------and has no fear of being murdered for his writings----now tell us about the people who write books and make movies and write articles not "SUCKING UP " (to paraphrase a vulgar slob) TO THE RAPIST PIG

He had to move to Britain.

wrong---he did not HAVE TO-----he chose to------had he stayed in Israel----he would still be alive

And unemployed.

 

[irosie91]

He had to move to Britain.

wrong---he did not HAVE TO-----he chose to------had he stayed in Israel----he would still be alive

And unemployed.

What a joke you are----there is a very big UNEMPLOYMENT problem in Israel SO? Lots of Israelis leave Israel seeking a job Are you suggesting that the MOSSAD wants to get him but he is being protected to SCOTLAND YARD? of course you are Were he to stay in israel----there would be NOTHING stopping him from writing books. You engage in INCESSANT wishful thinking------I know it is frustrating for you that scores of baby brain smashing nail bombs MISS THEIR MARK -----but try to live with it

 

[toastman]

You assume that Israel won the 1948 war. It did not. Israel came out of the 1948 war without one square inch of land to its name.

The goal of the 1948 war for the Arabs was to drive the Jews to the sea
The goal of the 1948 war for the Jews was survival


The Arabs did not suceed in getting rid of the Jews
The Jews did suceed in surviving


Also, Israel didn't even have a real army then , whereas the surrounding countries that attacked Israel did and had much more troops and weaponry.

I would say Israel definately won the war

all you can do toastie is to parrot zionist cliches and lies

here's the truth from an ISRAELI historian; exerpt of wikipedia

Pappé is one of Israel's New Historians who, since the release of pertinent British and Israeli government documents in the early 1980s, have been rewriting the history of Israel's creation in 1948, and the corresponding expulsion or flight of 700,000 Palestinians in the same year. He has written that the expulsions were not decided on an ad hoc basis, as other historians have argued, but constituted the ethnic cleansing of Palestine, in accordance with Plan Dalet, drawn up in 1947 by Israel's future leaders.[7] He blames the creation of Israel for the lack of peace in the Middle East, arguing that Zionism is more dangerous than Islamic militancy, and has called for an international boycott of Israeli academics.[8][9]

Pappé supports the one-state solution, which envisages a binational state for Palestinians and Israelis.[10]

His work has been both supported and criticized by other historians. Before he left Israel in 2008, he had been condemned in the Knesset, Israel's parliament; a minister of education had called for him to be sacked; his photograph had appeared in a newspaper at the centre of a target; and he had received several death threats.[11]

note how free israel truly is when truth is told.....he was threatened...

You did not disprove ANYTHING I said, you monkey.

 

[kvetch]

Pappe is a man who depends on sensationalism in order to earn his bread------only idiots swallow WHOLE----the crap that failed scholars sing to earn their supper

yes and no

the poor ole historians just dont get read unless they hype it up these days!

but exeter uni where he is is a specialist arab and mid east centre of excellence in UK and you dont get in there unless you are real expert.

 

[kvetch]

The goal of the 1948 war for the Arabs was to drive the Jews to the sea
The goal of the 1948 war for the Jews was survival


The Arabs did not suceed in getting rid of the Jews
The Jews did suceed in surviving


Also, Israel didn't even have a real army then , whereas the surrounding countries that attacked Israel did and had much more troops and weaponry.

I would say Israel definately won the war

all you can do toastie is to parrot zionist cliches and lies

here's the truth from an ISRAELI historian; exerpt of wikipedia

Pappé is one of Israel's New Historians who, since the release of pertinent British and Israeli government documents in the early 1980s, have been rewriting the history of Israel's creation in 1948, and the corresponding expulsion or flight of 700,000 Palestinians in the same year. He has written that the expulsions were not decided on an ad hoc basis, as other historians have argued, but constituted the ethnic cleansing of Palestine, in accordance with Plan Dalet, drawn up in 1947 by Israel's future leaders.[7] He blames the creation of Israel for the lack of peace in the Middle East, arguing that Zionism is more dangerous than Islamic militancy, and has called for an international boycott of Israeli academics.[8][9]

Pappé supports the one-state solution, which envisages a binational state for Palestinians and Israelis.[10]

His work has been both supported and criticized by other historians. Before he left Israel in 2008, he had been condemned in the Knesset, Israel's parliament; a minister of education had called for him to be sacked; his photograph had appeared in a newspaper at the centre of a target; and he had received several death threats.[11]

note how free israel truly is when truth is told.....he was threatened...

You did not disprove ANYTHING I said, you monkey.

true....just putting a different truth

the only error in what you said was that the Arabs had a decent army; they were a rabble

except the Jordanian legion which had british officers; ben gurion wisely FORBADE the haganah from invading the west bank

you needed stalin's help in that war; he gave you your guns via czechs, didn't he??

 

[irosie91]

oooohhh...!!!! that's it? the czechs-----Kvetch---you forgot your lessons-----the islamo nazi partyline regarding the war of 1948 is that the US MARINES landed in Tel Aviv and did all the fighting to SAVE THE JEWS yes----the poor arabs never so much as had a gun--------the poor STARVING arabs were trounced so UNFAIRLY-----every time

 

[kvetch]

oooohhh...!!!! that's it? the czechs-----Kvetch---you forgot your lessons-----the islamo nazi partyline regarding the war of 1948 is that the US MARINES landed in Tel Aviv and did all the fighting to SAVE THE JEWS yes----the poor arabs never so much as had a gun--------the poor STARVING arabs were trounced so UNFAIRLY-----every time

honestly Rosie when I first was in Egypt in 1971, 4 years after 67 war, every single egyptian believed that it was the UK and USA that had destroyed them not israel

my yenta was in lebanon in 67....same story there; the mob attacked the UK embassy where she worked.....as a zionist spy of course

everything is the fault of US UK and Zionists...never ever their own faults

BIG BIG PROBLEM...........EVEN NOW

PS ARE Y'ALL OK WHERE YOU ARE? LESS WINDY TODAY OR WHAT?

I worry for you aunty tollah!!

 

[toastman]

oooohhh...!!!! that's it? the czechs-----Kvetch---you forgot your lessons-----the islamo nazi partyline regarding the war of 1948 is that the US MARINES landed in Tel Aviv and did all the fighting to SAVE THE JEWS yes----the poor arabs never so much as had a gun--------the poor STARVING arabs were trounced so UNFAIRLY-----every time

honestly Rosie when I first was in Egypt in 1971, 4 years after 67 war, every single egyptian believed that it was the UK and USA that had destroyed them not israel

my yenta was in lebanon in 67....same story there; the mob attacked the UK embassy where she worked.....as a zionist spy of course

everything is the fault of US UK and Zionists...never ever their own faults

BIG BIG PROBLEM...........EVEN NOW

PS ARE Y'ALL OK WHERE YOU ARE? LESS WINDY TODAY OR WHAT?

I worry for you aunty tollah!!

Wrong. Everything is the fault of the Arabs, who had the chance to live in peace with the Jews, but refused. They waged war, lost land in the process of that war, and now are crying about it.