Founding Fathers are rolling over in their graves.

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    Funny how the founding fathers were trying to get away from Europe and now liberals are trying to turn the country back into Europe...

    Wouldn't it be easier to move to Europe?
     
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    Yeah. I bet they would hate how England wanted to control the rest of the world and not leave America along, and now America wants to control the rest of the world and not leave the Middle East alone. That shit would make them sick.
     
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    Your take on things would be hilarious if not so pathetic. Remind me again what we did during Jefferson's Presidency to the Barbary Pirates? Just for starters.
     
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    I'm not a history buff. Why don't you tell me what you think happened.
     
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    Mostly we paid them off, RGS, just like European nations did.

    Doesn't it suck to learn that practically everything we both were told about history is mostly wrong?

    I know it sure as hell pissed me off when I finally got the WHOLE story.

    You can get a thumbnail of the FIRST BARBARY WAR here, FYI.

    YOu will find, if you actually follow that link and read it, that yes, indeed, our Marines and Navy did land on the shores of Tripoli, and we definitely DID kick some ass on the land and on the sea.

    Mostly to no avail, however... as you will see if you follow the story to its conclusion.

    Like I say, read the whole entry on this the FIRST Barbary War, and then entry for the SECOND Barbary War, too.

    Be prepared to be somewhat surprised to learn that the ITALIANS finally solved that problem for all of Europe and the USA too.

    semper fi
     
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    Yup sure thing that would be why the Navy and the Marine Corps were sent. And yes we did pay them for a while but then we said NO more. What is your point?

    We fought a WAR with them. So much for your we kept paying them off claim.
     
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    You didn't read it, or if you did, you and I arrived at different conclusions about what it meant, RGS.

    SOMETIMES facing an enemy with nothing but a conventional military is like pissing on an anthill.

    Sure you can drown a lot of them, but then eventually you run out of piss.
     
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    Americans are not trying to control the world, Americans are just more creative, intelligent, thoughtful, caring and brave.
     
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    Which has nothing to do with the fact Jefferson sent our military to fight a war with the Barbary Pirates. And we won.
     
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    Freedom was a liberal concept jackass...
     
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