Egyptian (Muslim Brotherhood) Morsi to be overthrown?-Military Moves in to take over

[Kondor3]

Egypt's Morsi rejects army's 48-hour ultimatum

BBC World News - 2 July 2013 Last updated at 17:23 ET

President Morsi has criticised an army ultimatum

Egypt's president has rejected an army ultimatum that the country's crisis be resolved by Wednesday, amid deadly protests across the capital.

Mohammed Morsi insisted on his constitutional legitimacy as president and said he would not be dictated to.

It is clear he expects the military to depose him in the coming hours, says the BBC's Aleem Maqbool in Cairo.

The army earlier leaked details of its draft "roadmap" for Egypt's future to the BBC.

The plan would see new presidential elections, the suspension of the new constitution and the dissolution of parliament.

Clashes in Cairo between opponents and supporters of President Morsi killed seven people on Tuesday, the health ministry said.

The army warned on Monday that it would step in unless a solution was found, giving Mr Morsi 48 hours to find agreement with the opposition. That ultimatum expires around 16:30 (15:30 BST) on Wednesday.

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BBC News - Egypt's Morsi rejects army's 48-hour ultimatum

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It would appear that the Egyptian Electorate has reached the conclusion that they made a mistake.

This is what happens when you vote-in a former big-wig in the Muslim Brotherhood and allow them to shove a fresh Constitution down The People's throats.

The Army takes notice of the distress of The People, then steps in, to remove the Brotherhood shill and his fellow travelers and bulldoze what they've done into the ground.

 

[Mr. H.]

Fearing chaos, US wades into Egypt turmoil

 

[Kondor3]

So, according to the Article in Post #2, the President has cautioned all three sides... Morsi, the protestors, and the Army, to come to a peaceful settlement, otherwise face a re-evaluation of US aid to Egypt...

Why... in the name of God and Little Green Onions... would we WANT to keep proxy Muslim Brotherhood players in the Presidential Palace in Egypt?

Partisanship aside... that just doesn't make any sense... at first glance, anyway.

 

[JoeB131]

So, according to the Article in Post #2, the President has cautioned all three sides... Morsi, the protestors, and the Army, to come to a peaceful settlement, otherwise face a re-evaluation of US aid to Egypt...

Why... in the name of God and Little Green Onions... would we WANT to keep proxy Muslim Brotherhood players in the Presidential Palace in Egypt?

Partisanship aside... that just doesn't make any sense... at first glance, anyway.

Reality. Morsi won the election. Which means he has a lot of support.

Better him than a guy who doesn't respect elections or want to maintain good relations with the west.

Be careful what you wish for, it might come true.

 

[chikenwing]

So, according to the Article in Post #2, the President has cautioned all three sides... Morsi, the protestors, and the Army, to come to a peaceful settlement, otherwise face a re-evaluation of US aid to Egypt...

Why... in the name of God and Little Green Onions... would we WANT to keep proxy Muslim Brotherhood players in the Presidential Palace in Egypt?

Partisanship aside... that just doesn't make any sense... at first glance, anyway.

Their 1st legit election and they want to throw in the towel???!!! they voted for him!! ,another nation destabilizing before our eyes not good. But its their country ,tough call,but out and let the middle east spiral farther into trouble,as if we could stop it anyways.

 

[hortysir]

So, according to the Article in Post #2, the President has cautioned all three sides... Morsi, the protestors, and the Army, to come to a peaceful settlement, otherwise face a re-evaluation of US aid to Egypt...

Why... in the name of God and Little Green Onions... would we WANT to keep proxy Muslim Brotherhood players in the Presidential Palace in Egypt?

Partisanship aside... that just doesn't make any sense... at first glance, anyway.

Reality. Morsi won the election. Which means he has a lot of support.

Better him than a guy who doesn't respect elections or want to maintain good relations with the west.

Be careful what you wish for, it might come true.

And President Obama supported the citizenry in their legitimate election.

Will he support the Egyptians in this new endeavor?

 

[Kondor3]

"Reality. Morsi won the election. Which means he has a lot of support..."

NEW Reality... that was before Morsi shoved a ramshackle constitution down the throats of the Egyptian People which granted him a variety of new and extraordinary powers.

Something tells me that that did not go-over so well, after all.

And who are all those millions protesting?

My guess is many of them voted for Morsi not too long ago.

And that they already have Buyer's Remorse to an extent sufficient to bring on this crisis.

The 48-hour Army Ultimatum to Morsi runs out tomorrow, and, it looks like the US Embassy is closing-up shop in anticipation of that.

The Army has already said that it plans on imposing Martial Law and suspending Morsi's bullshit Constitution and dissolving Parliament and calling for new elections rapidly.

By facilitating new elections rapidly, it does not appear that the Army will be playing the part of the Despot here; rather, it seems that it will be taking-on the Guardian of the State role modeled upon the Turkish one.

For those of us accustomed to a reasonably well-educated and informed and concerned electorate, this sends shivers up-and-down the spine - and rightfully so, when translating such actions to a Western Democracy such as our own.

But for countries where the electorate has a lower level of education and little tradition of democratic elections and where religious and political passions run high, a Guardian of the State can bail The People out of a bad decision, once they come to realize their mistake.

Beats leaving the Muslim Brotherhood in the Presidential Palace by proxy and giving them years to fuck things up badly enough so that they can't be fixed, I suppose.

 

[JoeB131]

So let me get this straight, you are HOPING for a military power grab?

I just don't see how this is a good thing under any circumstances.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Egypt's Morsi rejects army's 48-hour ultimatum

BBC World News - 2 July 2013 Last updated at 17:23 ET

President Morsi has criticised an army ultimatum

Egypt's president has rejected an army ultimatum that the country's crisis be resolved by Wednesday, amid deadly protests across the capital.

Mohammed Morsi insisted on his constitutional legitimacy as president and said he would not be dictated to.

It is clear he expects the military to depose him in the coming hours, says the BBC's Aleem Maqbool in Cairo.

The army earlier leaked details of its draft "roadmap" for Egypt's future to the BBC.

The plan would see new presidential elections, the suspension of the new constitution and the dissolution of parliament.

Clashes in Cairo between opponents and supporters of President Morsi killed seven people on Tuesday, the health ministry said.

The army warned on Monday that it would step in unless a solution was found, giving Mr Morsi 48 hours to find agreement with the opposition. That ultimatum expires around 16:30 (15:30 BST) on Wednesday.

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BBC News - Egypt's Morsi rejects army's 48-hour ultimatum

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It would appear that the Egyptian Electorate has reached the conclusion that they made a mistake.

This is what happens when you vote-in a former big-wig in the Muslim Brotherhood and allow them to shove a fresh Constitution down The People's throats.

The Army takes notice of the distress of The People, then steps in, to remove the Brotherhood shill and his fellow travelers and bulldoze what they've done into the ground.

Yes, it appears the American Electorate made one too. So not only has he destroyed our country but Egypts as well. Obama was behind ousting Mubarak and assisting terrorist group Muslim Brotherhood into power through Morsi. I hope the Army moves swiftly to remove that guy and take the Muslim Brotherhood Murderers with him. I'd drive them straight out of the country!

 

[JoeB131]

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Yes, it appears the American Electorate made one too. So not only has he destroyed our country but Egypts as well. Obama was behind ousting Mubarak and assisting terrorist group Muslim Brotherhood into power through Morsi. I hope the Army moves swiftly to remove that guy and take the Muslim Brotherhood Murderers with him. I'd drive them straight out of the country!

Obama abandoned Mubarek because his position was untennable. Everyone INCLUDING the military wanted him out.

if the military seizes power, it's going to be a mess.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

The IMF Mafia thought given a bad enough economy they'd cave into the usual sign on the dotted line ( sign away whatever the globalist communists are wanting at that particular time ) so Morsi could get monetary funds to pull the people out of the mess. They refused. So now the IMF will go ahead and throw Morsi to the wolves so they can install another idiot who will play ball with the IMF and World Bank and take the money in exchange for signing away the rights of Egyptians and a piece of Egyptian Sovereignty.

You see, the IMF is not only capable of offering your nation Funds but they are capable of forcing it to accept that money & forcing you to meet their conditions to get it - watch how this plays out. Morsi takes the IMF money he stays - Morsi rejects the IMF money - he goes.

Meanwhile the rest of the world thinks this is Egypt rejecting an Islamic Ruler. Wrong. This is about an Egyptian economy that has been purposely destroyed by Barack Obama and the IMF thugs who planned this disaster a year ago thinking that Egypt would cave into the IMF like Libya did. But they haven't and that is causing a big problem. It would not be the first time IMF has overthrown a country who refused to sign their agreement in exchange for money. They will find someone who will be willing to sign away the nations sovereignty ( like Obama has done to us ) so they can rape it of all its resources. They have the right leader for the IMF, folks! That Rapist Strauss - Kahn is back in charge of that group. Now you see what they do and why he wasn't worried about raping a Muslim NYC Maid in broad daylight! He rapes Muslim nations and gets away with it. This guy is "untouchable".

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Wrong, Joe. Obama abandoned Mubarak because Mubarak refused to sign away Egyptian Sovereignty and control to the IMF. The Intenational Monetary Fund lead by Rapist Strauss - Kahn ( of the famous NYC Maid Rape Case He got off scott free ) wanted Mubarek and Qaddafi to sign over control to them ( piece by piece ) and both men refused. So IMF had Obama ( his popularity was useful to them while it lasted ) assist the terrorist group Muslim Brotherhood into creating riots - arming the terrorists - to overthrow Mubarek and they did! Now Muslim Brotherhood President Morsi was offered the funds from IMF to bail Egypt out of her economic troubles if he will sign away Egyptian sovereignty and give more power and control to IMF - he refused. So now IMF is on fast track to get rid of him and install someone who will sell Egypts soul to the Devil ( IMF / World Bank/ UN / Lucis Trust People ) They will keep doing this with the middle east until the IMF forces everyone to sign on the dotted line. Libya already has. Egypt still hasn't. Watch how fast they move now.

This is why I have said all along, Joe, that Obama is not making his own decisions concerning the Middle East - ect - he is taking orders from others - he has been from the beginning.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

So it was a coincidence that the IMF made clear to Morsi this was his last offer on the money for Egyptian bailout and he turned them down last month and this month he is being thrown out. This has IMF fingerprints all over it, Pal.

Do you even know what the economic situation is like in Egypt since Mubarek was removed by Muslim Brotherhood terrorists, Joe? Horrific. The leaders of the middle east are well aware of what the IMF is up to which is why they are resisting them.

 

[JoeB131]

So it was a coincidence that the IMF made clear to Morsi this was his last offer on the money for Egyptian bailout and he turned them down last month and this month he is being thrown out. This has IMF fingerprints all over it, Pal.

Do you even know what the economic situation is like in Egypt since Mubarek was removed by Muslim Brotherhood terrorists, Joe? Horrific. The leaders of the middle east are well aware of what the IMF is up to which is why they are resisting them.

The economic situation was horrible UNDER Mubarek. It's been horrible in that country for years. The only industry they have is tourism, and no one wants to go on vacation there if they are going to be potentially killed.

but please make it one of your crazy Bilderberger/trilateralist/IMF/Roswell Alien conspricies.

And make sure you use tin foil to keep them from reading your thoughts. Don't use aluminum foil, that doesn't work at all.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

So, according to the Article in Post #2, the President has cautioned all three sides... Morsi, the protestors, and the Army, to come to a peaceful settlement, otherwise face a re-evaluation of US aid to Egypt...

Why... in the name of God and Little Green Onions... would we WANT to keep proxy Muslim Brotherhood players in the Presidential Palace in Egypt?

Partisanship aside... that just doesn't make any sense... at first glance, anyway.

Reality. Morsi won the election. Which means he has a lot of support.

Better him than a guy who doesn't respect elections or want to maintain good relations with the west.

Be careful what you wish for, it might come true.

And President Obama supported the citizenry in their legitimate election.

Will he support the Egyptians in this new endeavor?

That is the beauty of Obama, he can turn on his own without losing momentum. If Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood do not agree to the conditions the IMF is telling them they are going to have to sign an agreement for BEFORE they get the money - the people will overthrow Morsi ( because economically they can't survive any longer ) and Obama will lead the way because the IMF wants a player in this game that will sell out the country he was installed to lead.

The IMF chose terrorists for leaders because they figured they wouldn't have any conscience about giving Egypt away - in this case - it didn't work for them.

Whatever the IMF says - Obama will be going along 100% and will not only put Morsi Under the Bus but he will get behind the wheel and DRIVE over him personally! Count on it!

Obama sold his soul a long time ago. It's nothing to him. This is a man who can watch Benghazi real time from the situation room, watch US Ambassador Stevens getting gang raped ( SODOMIZED) by MB ( who thought we had double crossed him ) sent by Morsi while he YAWNS and says time for me to go to bed! Good night!

In the morning, he calls Hillary and says make sure to use that youtube video and tell the Americans the US Ambassador died of smoke Inhalation. She did. Remember that one?

Sure didn't look like he was dead when they were dragging him through those streets, did it? That's who Obama is. In a nutshell.

-Jeri

 

[JoeB131]

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[Book of Jeremiah]

Joe, Trolling a thread is not permitted on USMB. I already pointed this out to you before. You need to respond to the content of thread - personal attacks are not a reply. I've reported this one to the moderators. Please try to comply with USMB rules from now on. Thanks. - Jeri

 

[JoeB131]

Joe, Trolling a thread is not permitted on USMB. I already pointed this out to you before. You need to respond to the content of thread - personal attacks are not a reply. I've reported this one to the moderators. Please try to comply with USMB rules from now on. Thanks. - Jeri

Guy, you keep throwing out bizarre ass conspiracy theories, I'm going to treat them for what they are.

The trolling in my opinion is turning EVERY thread into a forum for your bizarre "Bilderbergers are hiding under my bed" bullshit.

I'd have loved to have had a sensible discussion about policy towards Egypt, but you hijacked the thread.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Joe, you've been stalking my comments for weeks with personal attacks. It is time for it to stop. Once again, you've been reported for it. Wise up before you get thrown off the board. Attack the post, not the poster. If that is beyond your ability I suggest you try arts and crafts forum. - Jeri

 

[JoeB131]

Wrong, Joe. Obama abandoned Mubarak because Mubarak refused to sign away Egyptian Sovereignty and control to the IMF. The Intenational Monetary Fund lead by Rapist Strauss - Kahn ( of the famous NYC Maid Rape Case He got off scott free ) wanted Mubarek and Qaddafi to sign over control to them (.

Strauss_Kahn didn't get off "Scott-Free". He was forced to resign.

And it turned out the woman was lying her ass off and was caught on tape figuring out how to blackmail money out of this guy.

Which has nothing to do with Egypt.

Egypt, the problem is, the country is a basket case with 13.2% unemployment.

The notion that the Bilderbergers or the IMF or whoever you think is hiding under your bed has nothing to do with the fact these countries are grindingly poor and have been mismanaged by their oligarchies.