Drug Shortages ---Our Free Market At Work

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    I'm sure glad we still have a semblance of laissez faire capitalism in our country! Aren't you? I certainly don't blame Big Pharma for cutting back on those pesty, old drugs that are just totally unprofitable and moving their production overseas since their patents expired. Those generic meds that just take up so much space in their manufacturing and distribution centers...Methotrexate and Doxil being the latest examples of two totally unprofitable drugs.

    I was just appalled when the FDA had to step in a force the importation of Methotrexate for all these silly kids in this country who have leukemia and were looking at no treatments for the next couple of months due to the shortage. I mean, hey....This idea of government getting involved in our health care is just baloney! I say let the kids die, dammit. That's how the free market works! What part of this scenario do these damn libbies don't understand?
     
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    We don't capitalism or a free market.
     
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    Also, what a disastrous appeal to emotion.
     
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    Sure we do. Big Pharma is a great example. They can focus their R&D on new, expensive drugs that will have a 2000% mark up when they hit the pharmacy shelves.

    I just think it's terrible that the FDA has to get it's nose in the business of making sure all these silly kids with cancer get their chemo treatments. I mean, WTF, right?
     
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    No, we don't. What you're talking about is corporatism. We do not have a free market. We have a corporate/govt. controlled market and in so, it is not free.
     
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    LOL! I suspect you have no health issues right now that are being affected by drug shortages.
    That's how most people operate. If they can't see it from their backyard they don't give a flying phock.

    Doxil and Methotrexate are just 2 of the drugs in short supply now. Go to the FDA website and check their list of current drug shortages. It's about 20 pages long.
     
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    Regardless of my medical background and needs, what you're trying to push off as capitalism and a free market, is wrong. We don't have those things and have not for a long time. You're describing the symptoms of corporatism, or "crony capitalism" (which is do not favor in terminology as it is misleading).

    Just correcting your error. And as for the appeal to emotion, that is what you're doing if can not provide a logical argument with facts, but instead insist to appeal to the emotions of your audience.
     
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    We have a mixed market. The industries with the most lobbyists inside the Beltway have the most freedom.

    But my point is, of course, that we cannot have total deregulation of these industries because corporations will do what they are designed to do: create a profit without regard to their consumer. In this case not only a disregard for their consumer, but a detriment resulting in death.

    I wonder how Ron Paul would spin this one....
     
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    I am holding up a mirror to the Tea Baggers and other right-wing extremists and showing them what a totally free, unregulated market looks like, in case that went over your head.
     
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    No spin necessary, you've got the sucker moving like a top already.
     

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