Does socialized medicine contribute to terrorism?

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    I'll repeat the question: Does socialized medicine contribute to terrorism?

    As most of us are aware, there was a recent attempt to set off a couple of car bombs in the U.K.

    The eight people arrested in the case are from the medical profession. This gives the plan a completely different dimension than previous acts of terrorism in Britain.

    The seven men are physicians, while the lone woman, the wife of one of them, is a medical technician. All of them from Middle Eastern countries or of Middle Eastern descent.

    In Britain, the National Health Service relies on foreign doctors to meet staffing shortfalls. Of the nearly 239,000 doctors now registered with the General Medical Council, about 90,000 of them qualified in countries other than Britain. I have read that foreign doctors have been drawn to the NHS's relatively "generous" salaries and thorough standards of training.

    With this knowledge in hand I am forced to ask, would these doctors have been in Britain if not for the opportunity afforded them through socialized medicine? They test a doctor's abilities and training, they check on their schooling and degrees, but how do you test their religious fervor?
     
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    This has to be the most reaching post I've read here yet.
     
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    Do you really think it is that much of a stretch?

    I mean, if not for the need to fill positions in their health care system, could you not speculate that the doctors arrested might be practicing their craft in Jordan or Lebanon rather than the British Isles?
     
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    I'm confused. Why doesn't the UK hire UK citizens ?
     
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    The majority of doctors in the program are British citizens, but there seems to be a shortfall that requires they hire citizens from other nations. I don't know the reason for the shortfall.
     
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    And explain the foreign Dr's in the US? There are MANY. I've served with several while stationed with a US Army Reserve Hospital in the 90's. We had mostly foreign Dr's.
     
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    This probably isnt the proper place, but medical training should become vocational. It is stupid to make potential doctors take 4 years of unrelated stuff to just get into med school. Let them take a 2 year pre-med sequence (the pre-med requirements within a degree take about 2 years) and then go right to med school. And for those that dont know, not every doctor is a biology or chem major in college. Art majors can apply to med school as long as they got the pre-med cores done in college, which as I said is only about 2 years of courses.
    6 years is still a long time to make good doctors, plus they still have all the rotations/internships to get them to where they need to be.
     
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    I haven't given any thought to the U.S.
     
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    In answer to the question - no. A health system - socialised, single-payer or totally private needs doctors and I would assume that the system needs a certain amount of doctors and if they can't recruit them locally then they have to look elsewhere. Given it's in the UK having good English is necessary and I think these folks came mainly from Pakistan where the language is Urdu but English is a second language widely spoken and certainly in the professions it would be very widely used. The doctors might also come from other English-speaking countries. Just happens that of all the hundreds of overseas-trained doctors in the British system over the years, a half a dozen of them are Islamist nutters.
     
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    Excellent point, thank you.
     

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