Does Obama ever work at the White House???

[Maple]

you're kinda dumb ain't ya? the Presidential Daily Briefing in August of 2001 stated that Al Qaeda was determined to strike within the united states. Bush's response to being given that terrible assessment? Send the DCI back to Washington without any guidance for heightening our preparedness and continue on with his vacation. 9/11 happened six weeks AFTER he was given that warning....

moron.

even the guy whose dick you suck daily would not have known what those guys were going to do....and Clinton ....you do remember him...the guy whose Dick you used to suck....since all this was planned on his watch....were was he and his people?....you are dumber than Chris...and that is pretty bad...Moron....

you are the one who asked the idiotic question. I merely answered it for you.

Clinton was ALL FOR supporting indigenous Iraqi dissidents in their efforts to overturn the Saddam regime, and was willing to provide THEM with the funding needed to accomplish it. He was NOT willing to spill American blood in the effort to unseat Saddam.

Bush, clearly, did not care much about how much American blood he spilled because he knew, up front, that none of it would be from HIS cowardly clan.

Had Bush not gone into Iraq, when Presidents for the last 30 years and every leader in the world stated that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and terrorists could get there hands on them, you and your fello libs would have been screaming at the tops of your lungs. BUSH IS A COWARD, SADDAM HAS WMD AND HE HAS DONE NOTHING ABOUT IT, HE HAS PUT THIS COUNTRY AT RISK , BECAUSE TERRORISTS WILL GET THEIR HANDS ON THOSE WEAPONS AND USE THEM ON US. Now fess up, because that is exactly the rant you all would have used against President Bush. Especially after 9-11. Bush was in a no-win situation. He was damned if he didn't and damned if he did.

At least he had the courage to do something, your guy can't even make up his mind to send an additional 40,000 troops to Afghanistan to honor the request of a general who he appointed. Our troops need help over there, they are at risk, 8 more died today and the President who is the commander in chief is sitting on his hands, wondering which way the political breeze is blowing while our guys are being shot at. I call that dereliction of duty on the part of the commander in chief.

He has thrown our troops under his political bus and is in the process of running over them, all for his personal political gain.

 

[maineman]

Had Bush not gone into Iraq, when Presidents for the last 30 years and every leader in the world stated that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and terrorists could get there hands on them, you and your fello libs would have been screaming at the tops of your lungs. BUSH IS A COWARD, SADDAM HAS WMD AND HE HAS DONE NOTHING ABOUT IT, HE HAS PUT THIS COUNTRY AT RISK , BECAUSE TERRORISTS WILL GET THEIR HANDS ON THOSE WEAPONS AND USE THEM ON US. Now fess up, because that is exactly the rant you all would have used against President Bush. Especially after 9-11. Bush was in a no-win situation. He was damned if he didn't and damned if he did.

At least he had the courage to do something, your guy can't even make up his mind to send an additional 40,000 troops to Afghanistan to honor the request of a general who he appointed. Our troops need help over there, they are at risk, 8 more died today and the President who is the commander in chief is sitting on his hands, wondering which way the political breeze is blowing while our guys are being shot at. I call that dereliction of duty on the part of the commander in chief.

He has thrown our troops under his political bus and is in the process of running over them, all for his personal political gain.

a ridiculous statement. The left NEVER wanted Bush to invade Iraq. I personally was fully supportive of Bush when he invaded Afghanistan and even volunteered to go back on active duty to help him fight Al Qaeda. I gave him a great deal of credit when he used diplomatic muscle to get Saddam to allow Hans Blix & Co. back into Iraq. If he had been just a little bit patient and let the UN inspectors do the job that his tough diplomacy had allowed them to start doing again, we would have found out that Saddam did NOT have any WMD's and there WAS no need, therefore, to invade, conquer and occupy Iraq.

I fully support President Obama's deliberate approach to Afghanistan. In the wake of the last election there, Karzai has not shown the ability to be an effective partner in our attempts to go after AQ and their supporters. If, after the runoff election, it becomes apparent that the Afghan people are supportive of their own government and that government can show that it can be effective, then, and only then, should Obama decide on changes to the mission there. If the new government does NOT have the support of the people, I think we should get the hell out and just use drones and missiles and air strikes to attack terrorist strongholds...

 

[maineman]

even the guy whose dick you suck daily would not have known what those guys were going to do....and Clinton ....you do remember him...the guy whose Dick you used to suck....since all this was planned on his watch....were was he and his people?....you are dumber than Chris...and that is pretty bad...Moron....

you are the one who asked the idiotic question. I merely answered it for you.

Clinton was ALL FOR supporting indigenous Iraqi dissidents in their efforts to overturn the Saddam regime, and was willing to provide THEM with the funding needed to accomplish it. He was NOT willing to spill American blood in the effort to unseat Saddam.

Bush, clearly, did not care much about how much American blood he spilled because he knew, up front, that none of it would be from HIS cowardly clan.

no Billy just bombed the fuck out of people.....and if you were able to comprehend what is being posted dickhead....you would see that my statement about not being attacked during Bush's time was AFTER 9/11,not before ....

YOU posted your comment in response to MY post... and MY post was clearly about the August 2001 PDB. you fucked up. and now can't admit it.
that's pathetic.

 

[skookerasbil]

Find out this AM that Obama has attended 28 Fundraisers this year!!! 28!!! wtf s0ns!!????

You know what? Our president is a leisure addict!!! Who kneeeeeeeeew???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Harry Dresden]

you are the one who asked the idiotic question. I merely answered it for you.

Clinton was ALL FOR supporting indigenous Iraqi dissidents in their efforts to overturn the Saddam regime, and was willing to provide THEM with the funding needed to accomplish it. He was NOT willing to spill American blood in the effort to unseat Saddam.

Bush, clearly, did not care much about how much American blood he spilled because he knew, up front, that none of it would be from HIS cowardly clan.

no Billy just bombed the fuck out of people.....and if you were able to comprehend what is being posted dickhead....you would see that my statement about not being attacked during Bush's time was AFTER 9/11,not before ....

YOU posted your comment in response to MY post... and MY post was clearly about the August 2001 PDB. you fucked up. and now can't admit it.
that's pathetic.

was it clearly?.....you had no dates posted....you said he was clearing brush or something....so i took it to mean after 9/11 he was nonchalant about Al Quida...and as long as you have been here asshole you dont know squat about anyone you post with...i have admitted i have been wrong plenty of times including during this thread....and thats pathetic for you not to notice...there are about 5 posters in here from Maine...all seem pretty intelligent....what the fuck happened to you?...fall off the turnip truck coming from Canada....

 

[maineman]

exactly... and Obama can negotiate, influence, discuss, guide, formulate, contemplate AND hit his six iron with accuracy all in the same afternoon!

it's a pity that Dubya could not...it is a pity that he chose playing golf and cutting brush as things he did in lieu of addressing the fact that Al Qaeda was determined to strike within the United States.

did they while he was pres.?........

in a word, YES. A mere six weeks after he was warned that they were determined to do so.

I suppose one has to know enough about the subject to be aware of the fact that there was a PDB in August of '01 the title of which was "Al Qaeda determined to strike within the United States". I assumed you were that aware. Forgive me. I won't make the mistake again of overestimating your intelligence.

When Dubya was given that dire warning six weeks prior to 9/11, he simply sent the DCI back to Washington and continued on with his vacation. Contrast that with what Clinton did when he was briefed about the possibility of a Y2K attack at LAX. Since you didn't know about the August PDB, I'll assume that you DON'T know that Clinton, after getting a similar heads up, required CIA and FBI and NSA to report to him daily on what they were doing together to stop the threat. And the attack was thwarted.
Perhaps, if Bush had done that, he would have KNOWN in August, that an FBI field office was concerned about a bunch of arabs taking flight training that only wanted to learn how to FLY the planes once airborne and seemingly had no desire to learn how to LAND them. But we'll never know... because Bush didn't take the PDB seriously and didn't let it deter him from golfing and grilling and having a great time on his vacation in Texas.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Nope. Not unless they have a Mini Golf Course inside the White House.

 

[Jay Canuck]

USATODAY.com - White House to move to Texas for a while

White House to move to Texas for a while

By Laurence McQuillan, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON — Six months after taking office, President Bush will begin a month-long vacation Saturday that is significantly longer than the average American's annual getaway. If Bush returns as scheduled on Labor Day, he'll tie the modern record for presidential absence from the White House, held by Richard Nixon at 30 days. Ronald Reagan took trips as long as 28 days.

But some Republican loyalists worry about critics who say Bush lets Vice President Cheney and other top officials do most of the work. They're also concerned about the reaction of the average American, who gets 13 vacation days each year.

"It can foster other images," says William Benoit, a professor of political communication at the University of Missouri-Columbia. "Maybe he's lazy, maybe he's not determined. It feeds into the impression that he's not in charge."

Bush, who is scheduled to return to Washington on Sept. 3 (8 days before 9/11), is taking his vacation while Congress is in recess. Cheney will be in Wyoming.

 

[masquerade]

No, he doesn't.

He's too busy campaigning for his healthcare reform and campaigning for other democrats.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I suppose one has to know enough about the subject to be aware of the fact that there was a PDB in August of '01 the title of which was "Al Qaeda determined to strike within the United States". I assumed you were that aware. Forgive me. I won't make the mistake again of overestimating your intelligence.

you did fall off the turnip truck didnt ya?....i wont overestimate your IQ either dipshit....for anyone to think that just because the president has been briefed the attacks wont happen or he is responsible for stopping them shows how stupid you are....the ONLY reason those attacks are thwarted is because of the men and women in the security agencies in this country....and if i remember correctly...during Clintons time none of the Federal Agencies communicated very well with the local agencies ....i notice you kinda left that out....the LAX situation was handled by the LAPD and the LAX police...and i remember that the LA Police Chief in a press conference was saying he wasnt to happy about the lack of info they were getting from Washington about this situation and felt the feds were telling him we will handle this....they handled it themselves....

 

[maineman]

I suppose one has to know enough about the subject to be aware of the fact that there was a PDB in August of '01 the title of which was "Al Qaeda determined to strike within the United States". I assumed you were that aware. Forgive me. I won't make the mistake again of overestimating your intelligence.

you did fall off the turnip truck didnt ya?....i wont overestimate your IQ either dipshit....for anyone to think that just because the president has been briefed the attacks wont happen or he is responsible for stopping them shows how stupid you are....the ONLY reason those attacks are thwarted is because of the men and women in the security agencies in this country....and if i remember correctly...during Clintons time none of the Federal Agencies communicated very well with the local agencies ....i notice you kinda left that out....the LAX situation was handled by the LAPD and the LAX police...and i remember that the LA Police Chief in a press conference was saying he wasnt to happy about the lack of info they were getting from Washington about this situation and felt the feds were telling him we will handle this....they handled it themselves....

where did I EVER say that, just because the president has been briefed the attacks won't happen? your reading comprehension skills are laughable.

And the president IS ultimately responsible for the actions taken by the federal executive branch to try to stop terrorist attacks on our country.

And when the good men and women of our security agencies are not given the attention they deserve, as when FBI agents in Oklahoma were writing memos about arabs taking flying lessons that were NEVER given the importance they deserved and forwarded to Washington, then things like 9/11 more easily occur.

And your recollections about the LAX Y2K plot are fictitious. Clinton MADE the agencies talk with one another about that threat and HE took the threat seriously. Bush did NOT take the threat reported in the August '01 PDB seriously at all.... well, at least not seriously enough to stop playing golf and cutting brush and actually pay attention to it.

Remember... the day of 9/11, the administration was worried about Star Wars and NOT AQ... and the Justice department was taking millions OUT of the anti-terrorism task force budget and moving it to Asscroft's anti-porn initiative.

oh, and just so you know...we don't really grow a lot of turnips up round these parts... we're much better known for our potatoes.

 

[Harry Dresden]

And your recollections about the LAX Y2K plot are fictitious. Clinton MADE the agencies talk with one another about that threat and HE took the threat seriously. Bush did NOT take the threat reported in the August '01 PDB seriously at all.... well, at least not seriously enough to stop playing golf and cutting brush and actually pay attention to it.

so you lived out here at the time?.....you were able to collect the buzz going around here at the time of this and how many law enforcement officials were not happy about the way the feds communicated with them on this....kinda playing the we are Feds we can handle it games.....and no, if it was a potato truck you would be at least as smart as Chris.....it was a Turnip Truck....

 

[skookerasbil]

the k00ks..............

they're still obsessed with Bush. And how funny is that really? Nobody cares about George Bush anymore........except of course, the k00ks.

Tuned in the Olbermann show last night for awhile. They're STILL running wall to wall Bush stories!! That show has become a sancturary for all the OCD internet k00ks who never got over it when Bush left office. These people are more miserable than ever now!!! Go figure??!!!!!!!!!!

And Im laughing.........I warned all the k00ks a year before Bush left office to get to it and find something else to obsess about. Even recommended some good SSRO pharmaceuticals in several public service announcements in an attempt to help these poor souls.

But as this thread clearly indicates, nobody took my advice.

 

[maineman]

And your recollections about the LAX Y2K plot are fictitious. Clinton MADE the agencies talk with one another about that threat and HE took the threat seriously. Bush did NOT take the threat reported in the August '01 PDB seriously at all.... well, at least not seriously enough to stop playing golf and cutting brush and actually pay attention to it.

so you lived out here at the time?.....you were able to collect the buzz going around here at the time of this and how many law enforcement officials were not happy about the way the feds communicated with them on this....kinda playing the we are Feds we can handle it games.....and no, if it was a potato truck you would be at least as smart as Chris.....it was a Turnip Truck....

the Y2K LAX plot never got anywhere fucking NEAR Los Angeles, California, moron. If you lived in Washington State, maybe then you could talk.

You clearly are blowing smoke out of your well travelled ass.

now slink away, idiot.

 

[skookerasbil]

anyway.......back to topic.............

So with all these golf days, fundrasing days, TV appearances, flying dog and pony shows to Europe...........gotta make the folks wonder how much this guy is just delegating his charge?? Its clear to may Americans that this president is the master of one thing at least: leisure!!!





fAiL

 

[skookerasbil]

I suppose one has to know enough about the subject to be aware of the fact that there was a PDB in August of '01 the title of which was "Al Qaeda determined to strike within the United States". I assumed you were that aware. Forgive me. I won't make the mistake again of overestimating your intelligence.

you did fall off the turnip truck didnt ya?....i wont overestimate your IQ either dipshit....for anyone to think that just because the president has been briefed the attacks wont happen or he is responsible for stopping them shows how stupid you are....the ONLY reason those attacks are thwarted is because of the men and women in the security agencies in this country....and if i remember correctly...during Clintons time none of the Federal Agencies communicated very well with the local agencies ....i notice you kinda left that out....the LAX situation was handled by the LAPD and the LAX police...and i remember that the LA Police Chief in a press conference was saying he wasnt to happy about the lack of info they were getting from Washington about this situation and felt the feds were telling him we will handle this....they handled it themselves....

where did I EVER say that, just because the president has been briefed the attacks won't happen? your reading comprehension skills are laughable.

And the president IS ultimately responsible for the actions taken by the federal executive branch to try to stop terrorist attacks on our country.

And when the good men and women of our security agencies are not given the attention they deserve, as when FBI agents in Oklahoma were writing memos about arabs taking flying lessons that were NEVER given the importance they deserved and forwarded to Washington, then things like 9/11 more easily occur.

And your recollections about the LAX Y2K plot are fictitious. Clinton MADE the agencies talk with one another about that threat and HE took the threat seriously. Bush did NOT take the threat reported in the August '01 PDB seriously at all.... well, at least not seriously enough to stop playing golf and cutting brush and actually pay attention to it.

Remember... the day of 9/11, the administration was worried about Star Wars and NOT AQ... and the Justice department was taking millions OUT of the anti-terrorism task force budget and moving it to Asscroft's anti-porn initiative.

oh, and just so you know...we don't really grow a lot of turnips up round these parts... we're much better known for our potatoes.

nobody cares s0n!!!!



who cant love the k00ks who regurgitate crap they've heard on "Countdown". lol........fcukking fail s0n

 

[maineman]

you did fall off the turnip truck didnt ya?....i wont overestimate your IQ either dipshit....for anyone to think that just because the president has been briefed the attacks wont happen or he is responsible for stopping them shows how stupid you are....the ONLY reason those attacks are thwarted is because of the men and women in the security agencies in this country....and if i remember correctly...during Clintons time none of the Federal Agencies communicated very well with the local agencies ....i notice you kinda left that out....the LAX situation was handled by the LAPD and the LAX police...and i remember that the LA Police Chief in a press conference was saying he wasnt to happy about the lack of info they were getting from Washington about this situation and felt the feds were telling him we will handle this....they handled it themselves....

where did I EVER say that, just because the president has been briefed the attacks won't happen? your reading comprehension skills are laughable.

And the president IS ultimately responsible for the actions taken by the federal executive branch to try to stop terrorist attacks on our country.

And when the good men and women of our security agencies are not given the attention they deserve, as when FBI agents in Oklahoma were writing memos about arabs taking flying lessons that were NEVER given the importance they deserved and forwarded to Washington, then things like 9/11 more easily occur.

And your recollections about the LAX Y2K plot are fictitious. Clinton MADE the agencies talk with one another about that threat and HE took the threat seriously. Bush did NOT take the threat reported in the August '01 PDB seriously at all.... well, at least not seriously enough to stop playing golf and cutting brush and actually pay attention to it.

Remember... the day of 9/11, the administration was worried about Star Wars and NOT AQ... and the Justice department was taking millions OUT of the anti-terrorism task force budget and moving it to Asscroft's anti-porn initiative.

oh, and just so you know...we don't really grow a lot of turnips up round these parts... we're much better known for our potatoes.

nobody cares s0n!!!!



who cant love the k00ks who regurgitate crap they've heard on "Countdown". lol........fcukking fail s0n

fuck you douchebag... I knew all of that before countdown aired its first episode.

disprove any of it if you can.

I won't bother staying up waiting for your response.

 

[Old Rocks]

For recent historical comparison:


Reagan- 335 days in California.

Bush Sr.-543 days(one term)

Carter-79 days(one term)

Clinton-152 days

It is common knowledge that Democrats work harder than republicans.

Thats how you get republican wing-nuts whining that Obama played golf three times a month and say "Well you complained about Bush being on vacation....so this makes us even"

After the Katrina debacle, nobody can ever equal Bush for vacation abuse

You do mean the Katrina debacle that caused thousands of people to wallow in their own shit because the dem governor and mayor didn't have a plan in place. That is the debacle you are talking about, eh?

And I guess those terrorists who rammed those planes full of our fellow citizens into 3buildings and an empty field entered this country, rented apartments, enrolled in flight school, accepted wire monetary transfers, roamed freely, completed flight school, and finalized the plans all on Clintons watch while he was spending those 152 days on vacation, or was receiving BJ'S from a fat, ignorant, liberal slut on company time and the taxpayers dime.

Christ, liberals are friggin' idiots!

No, you are the idiot with no memory. The mayor and the governor followed all the protocals. They could have done more, but what they did was exactly what the protocals for this situation called for. It was the FEMA that completely screwed up.

How New Orleans Drowned | vanityfair.com


In Baton Rouge, Governor Blanco, in contrast, took action. She began encouraging New Orleanians to go door-to-door and persuade their neighbors to leave. She oversaw the effort to route traffic lanes to facilitate a safe exodus from the region. She held a conference call with Louisiana officials and 65 legislators from the coastal parishes, trying to coordinate last-minute disaster-preparedness measures. She ordered more than 200 Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries vessels to be ready and waiting outside the projected danger zone.

And yet, instead of placing an urgent phone call that day to President George W. Bush, Blanco decided to send him a legal form requesting that he declare a federal state of emergency in southeastern Louisiana. While her letter followed proper protocol, she neglected to specify her state’s needs for federal transportation, for rescue boats, for other vital items and manpower. Just as Nagin wasn’t properly communicating his city’s needs to Blanco in Baton Rouge, Baton Rouge wasn’t properly communicating with Washington, D.C. (President Bush was vacationing at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, and he responded in kind to the governor’s form letter. In legally correct fashion, he complied with her request for federal assistance, authorizing FEMA “to coordinate all disaster relief.”)

 

[Old Rocks]

No, he doesn't.

He's too busy campaigning for his healthcare reform and campaigning for other democrats.

Good that he is campainging for Health Care Reform. And Bush was out campaigning for Repubs in California when he knew New Orleans was going to be flooded.

 

[Old Rocks]

I suppose one has to know enough about the subject to be aware of the fact that there was a PDB in August of '01 the title of which was "Al Qaeda determined to strike within the United States". I assumed you were that aware. Forgive me. I won't make the mistake again of overestimating your intelligence.

you did fall off the turnip truck didnt ya?....i wont overestimate your IQ either dipshit....for anyone to think that just because the president has been briefed the attacks wont happen or he is responsible for stopping them shows how stupid you are....the ONLY reason those attacks are thwarted is because of the men and women in the security agencies in this country....and if i remember correctly...during Clintons time none of the Federal Agencies communicated very well with the local agencies ....i notice you kinda left that out....the LAX situation was handled by the LAPD and the LAX police...and i remember that the LA Police Chief in a press conference was saying he wasnt to happy about the lack of info they were getting from Washington about this situation and felt the feds were telling him we will handle this....they handled it themselves....

Stupid ass. It was handled by the border patrol in Washington State.

2000 millennium attack plots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

LAX bombing plot
Ahmed Ressam, an Algerian living in Canada, planned to bomb Los Angeles International Airport (LAX). He was arrested at Port Angeles, Washington after crossing by ferry from Victoria, British Columbia, on December 14, 1999. Customs officials then found nitroglycerin and four timing devices concealed in a spare tire well of his automobile. He and three other Algerians stood trial for the crime. Ressam began cooperating with investigators in 2001. On July 27, 2005, he was sentenced to 22 years in prison.

Abu Zubaydah seems to have been tangentially involved in approving this attack as well.[citation needed]