Dims want to bring nack the draft!!!!!

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    Hey Kids,

    Thought it was a bright idea to put the Dims into a power position again????
    Charles in charge is sure to love this one.....Ha ha ha ha ha!:rotflmao: :happy2: :laugh: :usa: :salute:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/19/AR2006111900376_pf.html

    Rep. Rangel Will Seek to Reinstate Draft
    By JOHN HEILPRIN
    The Associated Press
    Sunday, November 19, 2006; 1:31 PM

    WASHINGTON -- Americans would have to sign up for a new military draft after turning 18 if the incoming chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee has his way.

    Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., said Sunday he sees his idea as a way to deter politicians from launching wars and to bolster U.S. troop levels insufficient to cover potential future action in Iran, North Korea and Iraq.

    "There's no question in my mind that this president and this administration would never have invaded Iraq, especially on the flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress, if indeed we had a draft and members of Congress and the administration thought that their kids from their communities would be placed in harm's way," Rangel said.

    Rangel, a veteran of the Korean War who has unsuccessfully sponsored legislation on conscription in the past, said he will propose a measure early next year.

    In 2003, he proposed a measure covering people age 18 to 26. This year, he offered a plan to mandate military service for men and women between age 18 and 42; it went nowhere in the Republican-led Congress.

    Democrats will control the House and Senate come January because of their victories in the Nov. 7 election.

    At a time when some lawmakers are urging the military to send more troops to Iraq, "I don't see how anyone can support the war and not support the draft," said Rangel, who also proposed a draft in January 2003, before the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

    Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican who is a colonel in the U.S. Air Force Standby Reserve, said he agreed that the U.S. does not have enough people in the military.

    "I think we can do this with an all-voluntary service, all-voluntary Army, Air Force, Marine Corps and Navy. And if we can't, then we'll look for some other option," said Graham, who is assigned as a reserve judge to the Air Force Court of Criminal Appeals.

    Rangel, the next chairman of the House tax-writing committee, said he worried the military was being strained by its overseas commitments.

    "If we're going to challenge Iran and challenge North Korea and then, as some people have asked, to send more troops to Iraq, we can't do that without a draft," Rangel said.

    He said having a draft would not necessarily mean everyone called to duty would have to serve. Instead, "young people (would) commit themselves to a couple of years in service to this great republic, whether it's our seaports, our airports, in schools, in hospitals," with a promise of educational benefits at the end of service.

    Graham said he believes the all-voluntary military "represents the country pretty well in terms of ethnic makeup, economic background."

    Repeated polls have shown that about seven in 10 Americans oppose reinstatement of the draft and officials say they do not expect to restart conscription.

    Outgoing Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld told Congress in June 2005 that "there isn't a chance in the world that the draft will be brought back."

    Yet the prospect of the long global fight against terrorism and the continuing U.S. commitment to stabilizing Iraq have kept the idea in the public's mind.

    The military drafted conscripts during the Civil War, both world wars and between 1948 and 1973. An agency independent of the Defense Department, the Selective Service System trains, keeps an updated registry of men age 18-25 _ now about 16 million _ from which to supply untrained draftees that would supplement the professional all-volunteer armed forces.

    Rangel and Graham appeared on "Face the Nation" on CBS.
     
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    So basically we have an elected official willing to foment civil unrest and rebellion to attain a political goal. Can't say I'm surprised. Suits his political idealism.
     
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    I want to see the Democrats spin this! Un-fracking-believable!

    Keep it up Charlie! Keep this going and the Republicans will get the super-majority in 2008!
     
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    When I turned 18 compulsory military service was unnecessary because Ronald Reagan was in the White House.

    However, in the years since I have come to support compulsory military service for men when they turn 18 or graduate from high school. I would exclude women from military service completely- barring another WWII type situation.

    I support military service as much for the benefits it can give our civilian population as much as for the national security aspects. Consider the benefits we would get from having every 22 year old man in perfect physical shape and having at least a GED and whatever job skills military training would provide.
     
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    Way before Reagan. Try Nixon.:rolleyes:
     
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    Charlie is gonna teach us all a lesson from his bag of wisdom. :bow2: The way to stop all wars is to draft Congressmens' kids. God I love being the victim of Charlies little experiments. May as well conscript all the Congressmen right now so they are prepared to defend the nations Capital from Mexicans with pitch forks.
     
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    Huh? What does Nixon have to do with me turning 18? And surely you are not claiming that the nation was better off between 1969 and 1974 than it was in 1986?
     
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    How many members of Congress have children that are serving in the military right now or have served since 9-11?
     
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    But more importantly, who cares?
     
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    So Rangel proposed his bill again. Think he will vote against it again?
     

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