Democrats vote down late term abortion restrictions in D.C.

[Charles_Main]

Isn't that what the debate is all about? Everyone has a different opinion, but no one deserves to be crucified by those who think someone else holds the wrong opinion.

Right... The only ones who need to be crucified are those inconvenient fetus's that feel pain.

Have you asked these fetuses if they feel pain, or do you just assume they do?

Do you just assume they don't?

 

[Noomi]

How did you put it now? Right... Not kids, just fetus's who feel pain... Of course they can be sedated before you kill them. Sick... Very sick.

I said that IF they felt pain, and the woman still wanted an abortion, everything possible should be done to ensure the fetus didn't feel pain. She should be encouraged to carry the fetus for a few more weeks, to give it a chance to live outside the womb. If, after counseling, she refuses, then the abortion can take place, but every measure must be taken to ensure the fetus is unaware of what is going on.

And you can be certain the fetus is unaware how exactly?

Put the mother to sleep. Drug passes to the fetus.

 

[Noomi]

Right... The only ones who need to be crucified are those inconvenient fetus's that feel pain.

Have you asked these fetuses if they feel pain, or do you just assume they do?

Do you just assume they don't?

Of course not. I know that at SOME point they start to become aware of discomfort, but I am not sure when that time is. What I am saying is, if there is doubt, put the mother to sleep before performing the abortion. It prevents pain being felt.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Democrats support the rights of women.

And even if a fetus does feel pain at 20 weeks, just put the woman to sleep before the abortion, and the fetus is asleep as well so it won't feel anything. That it what I would prefer anyway, because no one wants to think of abortion as being painful.

Really and you know that? or just suppose that or maybe brainwashed with that?

How can fucked up collectivist such as yourself be certain?

Oh yeah you think you're God - and a gift to humanity....

I suppose I'll play nice and not flame you.

 

[DiamondDave]

Why don't lifers just say they are anti choice, or anti womens rights?

Because it doesn't fit their beliefs.

When it is your DNA, it is your choice....

A fetus contains some DNA from the mother. Besides, if it is in her body, it is her property.

The developing child has its OWN UNIQUE DNA SEQUENCE.. it is not "some DNA" from the mother... try learning a bit about human development.... (see gametes)

It is not her body if it is not her DNA...

Sorry..

 

[Noomi]

So why not just say youre Pro Abortion?

Why don't lifers just say they are anti choice, or anti womens rights?

Because it doesn't fit their beliefs.

You just told me it only applies to abortion, so I'm anti-abortion, i'm fine with that....burt choice would mean more than just abortion, and you said it wasnt, so you are Pro abortion......I love kicking down the "prochoice" bullshit......

"Choice" means the choice to keep the baby, the choice to give it up, or the choice to have an abortion.

Lifers think the only choice is to give birth. That is not choice, that is anti choice.

 

[Jroc]

Democrats support the rights of women.

And even if a fetus does feel pain at 20 weeks, just put the woman to sleep before the abortion, and the fetus is asleep as well so it won't feel anything. That it what I would prefer anyway, because no one wants to think of abortion as being painful.

Kind of like execution

 

[WillowTree]

How did you put it now? Right... Not kids, just fetus's who feel pain... Of course they can be sedated before you kill them. Sick... Very sick.

I said that IF they felt pain, and the woman still wanted an abortion, everything possible should be done to ensure the fetus didn't feel pain. She should be encouraged to carry the fetus for a few more weeks, to give it a chance to live outside the womb. If, after counseling, she refuses, then the abortion can take place, but every measure must be taken to ensure the fetus is unaware of what is going on.

Why hide it? I think if you'Re going to kill an innocent you should be forced to look him right into his eye when you do it coward.

 

[Noomi]

Democrats support the rights of women.

And even if a fetus does feel pain at 20 weeks, just put the woman to sleep before the abortion, and the fetus is asleep as well so it won't feel anything. That it what I would prefer anyway, because no one wants to think of abortion as being painful.

Kind of like execution

Death row inmates feel pain when they are injected. I am opposed to the death penalty for numerous reasons, and this is one of them.

 

[Jroc]

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[Noomi]

How did you put it now? Right... Not kids, just fetus's who feel pain... Of course they can be sedated before you kill them. Sick... Very sick.

I said that IF they felt pain, and the woman still wanted an abortion, everything possible should be done to ensure the fetus didn't feel pain. She should be encouraged to carry the fetus for a few more weeks, to give it a chance to live outside the womb. If, after counseling, she refuses, then the abortion can take place, but every measure must be taken to ensure the fetus is unaware of what is going on.

Why hide it? I think if you'Re going to kill an innocent you should be forced to look him right into his eye when you do it coward.

I would like you to look into the eyes of a convicted murderer and pull the trigger. I doubt you could do it.

 

[DiamondDave]

Democrats support the rights of women.

And even if a fetus does feel pain at 20 weeks, just put the woman to sleep before the abortion, and the fetus is asleep as well so it won't feel anything. That it what I would prefer anyway, because no one wants to think of abortion as being painful.

Kind of like execution

Death row inmates feel pain when they are injected. I am opposed to the death penalty for numerous reasons, and this is one of them.

Kill the innocent, save the maniacal murderers...

 

[Noomi]

Ultrasound (20 weeks pregnant) - YouTube

Don't think I have not seen a fetus in the womb. I have. My friend recently had a baby and I saw her ultrasound. It didn't change my opinion, though.

 

[DiamondDave]

I said that IF they felt pain, and the woman still wanted an abortion, everything possible should be done to ensure the fetus didn't feel pain. She should be encouraged to carry the fetus for a few more weeks, to give it a chance to live outside the womb. If, after counseling, she refuses, then the abortion can take place, but every measure must be taken to ensure the fetus is unaware of what is going on.

Why hide it? I think if you'Re going to kill an innocent you should be forced to look him right into his eye when you do it coward.

I would like you to look into the eyes of a convicted murderer and pull the trigger. I doubt you could do it.

In a fucking heartbeat... matter of fact, I'd do it for free on my on personal time

 

[Noomi]

Kind of like execution

Death row inmates feel pain when they are injected. I am opposed to the death penalty for numerous reasons, and this is one of them.

Kill the innocent, save the maniacal murderers...

Except when they aren't guilty.

 

[IGetItAlready]

Why don't lifers just say they are anti choice, or anti womens rights?

Because it doesn't fit their beliefs.

You just told me it only applies to abortion, so I'm anti-abortion, i'm fine with that....burt choice would mean more than just abortion, and you said it wasnt, so you are Pro abortion......I love kicking down the "prochoice" bullshit......

"Choice" means the choice to keep the baby, the choice to give it up, or the choice to have an abortion.

Lifers think the only choice is to give birth. That is not choice, that is anti choice.

Because life matters to us. It really is THAT simple.
Democrats use the term "choice" because murder, killing, taking of life and all the other applicable terminology one could use to refer to abortion forces "pro-choicers" to consider the "choice" in question.
And that's something you clearly don't want to do.

 

[Noomi]

Why hide it? I think if you'Re going to kill an innocent you should be forced to look him right into his eye when you do it coward.

I would like you to look into the eyes of a convicted murderer and pull the trigger. I doubt you could do it.

In a fucking heartbeat... matter of fact, I'd do it for free on my on personal time

I would hold you to that.

 

[Noomi]

You just told me it only applies to abortion, so I'm anti-abortion, i'm fine with that....burt choice would mean more than just abortion, and you said it wasnt, so you are Pro abortion......I love kicking down the "prochoice" bullshit......

"Choice" means the choice to keep the baby, the choice to give it up, or the choice to have an abortion.

Lifers think the only choice is to give birth. That is not choice, that is anti choice.

Because life matters to us. It really is THAT simple.
Democrats use the term "choice" because murder, killing, taking of life and all the other applicable terminology one could use to refer to abortion forces "pro-choicers" to consider the "choice" in question.
And that's something you clearly don't want to do.

Life matters to us, too. The life and welfare of the woman comes first for us, though. The life of a fetus comes first for the pro life crowd.
Both sides care about life, we just care about a different life, is all.

 

[tjvh]

Democrats support the rights of women.

And even if a fetus does feel pain at 20 weeks, just put the woman to sleep before the abortion, and the fetus is asleep as well so it won't feel anything. That it what I would prefer anyway, because no one wants to think of abortion as being painful.

Kind of like execution

Death row inmates feel pain when they are injected. I am opposed to the death penalty for numerous reasons, and this is one of them.

But you said drugging an unborn ensures that they will not feel any pain? Well, which is it, and how would you know if they did or didn't feel pain?

 

[Mr.Nick]

Why don't lifers just say they are anti choice, or anti womens rights?

Because it doesn't fit their beliefs.

You just told me it only applies to abortion, so I'm anti-abortion, i'm fine with that....burt choice would mean more than just abortion, and you said it wasnt, so you are Pro abortion......I love kicking down the "prochoice" bullshit......

"Choice" means the choice to keep the baby, the choice to give it up, or the choice to have an abortion.

Lifers think the only choice is to give birth. That is not choice, that is anti choice.

Really bitch? can I off a fool and call that idiot a baby? then use that as a defense?

You take idiocy to the extreme but attempt to portray your dumb shit as logic - when it is anything but...

What would the world be like if you were aborted?

Oh yeah you have a right to life, but another doesn't...