Dem supermajority for 24 days, NOT 2 YEARS. Lying Pubs!

[bigrebnc1775]

Unfortunately for THAT dupe theory, Dems care too much about the country to go this far.

hey dupe answer this if you have the guts

I have this friend who has 17 years old daughter who want's to date this 19 year old guy. We both know the guy and he's a player who has knocked up three other girls. The Father is trying his best to obstruct his daughter from seeing the guy but the mother fully supports her daughter who wants to see the guy. Is my friend justified in being an obstructionist?

Crappy metaphor, to apply, the father would have to be doing horrible things to the daughter (America) and does not want this new kid stealing his action. Blanket congressional obstruction is an entirely self-interested tactic, do not assume even the slightest altruistic motive in making the senate vote 60.

The father is the one saying no the mother is the one saying yes where you went wrong is to imply the father was doing crappy things and the kid stealing his action. Exactly how did you go there?

 

[ClosedCaption]

Did the GOP ever have a supermajority during the Bush years? If not, how did they get so many things done?

Yeah that's strange...unless, Dems cooperated? No, that can't be.

 

[francoHFW]

And thanks for the depression and the stupidest wars ever. Pubs!

dupe
wars are smart? How many Americans died in the democrats war of Vietnam? Was that a smart war?

As if Pubs were against it LOL After Johnson realized it couldn't be won and quit, it got a HELL of a lot worse when Nixon cynically used it to get elected, then gave us 4 more years...Pubs always SUQ- and Ike was an indie, when we had no competition, and he WARNED us about Cold War Pubs...But now they're the WORST. and the PPM and the dupes...

and Nite-sleep well.

 

[HUGGY]

Who claimed the Dems had a supermajority for 2 years?

Most of the NewRepublicanTeaBaggingFascists on this MB dolt.

 

[Charles_Main]

And thanks for the depression and the stupidest wars ever. Pubs!

Wow, I think we can all agree the Stupidest war Ever Was Nam. Brought to you live and in Color by a Democrat.

over 50k Dead, and we failed.

At least in Both Iraq and Afghan we managed to Topple the Existing Regimes. lol and for about 4% of the Casualties.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

And thanks for the depression and the stupidest wars ever. Pubs!

dupe
wars are smart? How many Americans died in the democrats war of Vietnam? Was that a smart war?

As if Pubs were against it LOL After Johnson realized it couldn't be won and quit, it got a HELL of a lot worse when Nixon cynically used it to get elected, then gave us 4 more years...Pubs always SUQ- and Ike was an indie, when we had no competition, and he WARNED us about Cold War Pubs...But now they're the WORST. and the PPM and the dupes...

and Nite-sleep well.

WOW just WOW You are not an American you are a democrat. Dear Gawd you are a stupid demiocrat I thought you were an American but no you proved what you are a fucking dumb ass democrat.

 

[NYcarbineer]

And thanks for the depression and the stupidest wars ever. Pubs!

Wow, I think we can all agree the Stupidest war Ever Was Nam. Brought to you live and in Color by a Democrat.

over 50k Dead, and we failed.

At least in Both Iraq and Afghan we managed to Topple the Existing Regimes. lol and for about 4% of the Casualties.

There was virtually no opposition to the Vietnam War from the Right; the anti-war movement came from the left, in fact, from Johnson's left.

 

[Seawytch]

Who claimed the Dems had a supermajority for 2 years?

Most of the RW that posts here and elsewhere, the right wing pundits and Willard Romney, Presidential candidate.

Did the GOP ever have a supermajority during the Bush years? If not, how did they get so many things done?

For one thing, the Democrats (and Republicans in the past) have shown a willingness to compromise (or back down). No such willingness exists with the current Republican legislature. There have been more filibusters from this Republican Senate than anytime in recent history. They won't even allow bills or nominations to be discussed! They wouldn't even back down or compromise when our Nation's credit rating was at risk).

And I seem to recall the "nucular option" (misspelled on purpose ) being thrown around a lot by Republicans back when they didn't have a "Super Majority".

 

[skookerasbil]

The Truth is that the Democrats only had a filibuster-proof majority for 24 working days during that period. Here are the details:

To define terms, a Filibuster-Proof Majority or Super Majority is the number of votes required to overcome a filibuster in the Senate. According to current Senate rules, 60 votes are required to overcome a filibuster.

Here is a time-line of the events after the 2008 election:

1. BALANCE BEFORE THE ELECTION. In 2007 – 2008 the balance in the Senate was 51-49 in favor of the Democrats. On top of that, there was a Republican president who would likely veto any legislation the Republicans didn’t like. Not exactly a super majority.

2. BIG GAIN IN 2008, BUT STILL NO SUPER MAJORITY. Coming out the 2008 election, the Democrats made big gains, but they didn’t immediately get a Super Majority. The Minnesota Senate race required a recount and was not undecided for more than six months. During that time, Norm Coleman was still sitting in the Senate and the Balance 59-41, still not a Super Majority.

3. KENNEDY GRAVELY ILL. Teddy Kennedy casts his last vote in April and leaves Washington for good around the first of May. Technically he could come back to Washington vote on a pressing issue, but in actual fact, he never returns, even to vote on the Sotomayor confirmation. That leaves the balance in the Senate 58-41, two votes away from a super majority.

4. STILL NO SUPER MAJORITY. In July, Al Frankin was finally declared the winner and was sworn in on July 7th, 2009, so the Democrats finally had a Super Majority of 60-40 six and one-half months into the year. However, by this point, Kennedy was unable to return to Washington even to participate in the Health Care debate, so it was only a technical super majority because Kennedy could no longer vote and the Senate does not allow proxies. Now the actual actual balance of voting members is 59-40 not enough to overcome a Republican filibuster.

5. SENATE IS IN RECESS. Even if Kennedy were able to vote, the Senate went into summer recess three weeks later, from August 7th to September 8th.

6. KENNEDY DIES. Six weeks later, on Aug 26, 2009 Teddy Kennedy died, putting the balance at 59-40. Now the Democrats don’t even have technical super majority.

7. FINALLY, A SUPER MAJORITY! Kennedy’s replacement was sworn in on September 25, 2009, finally making the majority 60-40, just enough for a super majority.

8. SENATE ADJOURNS. However the Senate adjourned for the year on October 9th, only providing 11 working days of super majority, from September 25th to October 9th.

8. SCOTT BROWN ELECTED. Scott Brown was elected in November of 2009. The Senate was not in session during November and December of 2009. The Senate was in session for 10 days in January, but Scott Brown was sworn into office on February 4th, so the Democrats only had 13 days of super majority in 2010.

Summary: The Democrats only had 24 days of Super Majority between 2008 and 2010.

Discussion: The Democrats had a super majority for a total of 24 days. On top of that, the period of Super Majority was split into one 11-day period and one 13-day period. Given the glacial pace that business takes place in the Senate, this was way too little time for the Democrats pass any meaningful legislation, let alone get bills through committees and past all the obstructionistic tactics the Republicans were using to block legislation.

Further, these Super Majorities count Joe Lieberman as a Democrat even though he was by this time an Independent. Even though he was Liberal on some legislation, he was very conservative on other issues and opposed many of the key pieces of legislation the Democrats and Obama wanted to pass. For example, he was adamantly opposed to “Single Payer” health care and vowed to support a Republican Filibuster if it ever came to the floor.

Summary:

1. 1/07 – 12/08 – 51-49 – Ordinary Majority.
2. 1/09 – 7/14/09 – 59-41 – Ordinary Majority. (Coleman/Franklin Recount.)
3. 7/09 – 8/09 - 60-40 – Technical Super Majority, but since Kennedy is unable to vote, the Democrats can’t overcome a filibuster
4. 8/09 – 9/09 - 59-40 – Ordinary Majority. (Kennedy dies)
5. 9/09 – 10/09 - 60-40 – Super Majority for 11 working days.
6. 1/10 – 2/10 – 60-40 – Super Majority for 13 working days

Total Time of the Democratic Super Majority: 24 Working days.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/resources/pdf/2009_calendar.pdf
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/resources/pdf/2010_calendar.pdf
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meh




nobody cares.




Perception is 95% reality s0n. Ever decide on that future avatar bro??

 

[NYcarbineer]

Who claimed the Dems had a supermajority for 2 years?

Florida Republican Connie Mack did on Foxnews,

about 15 minutes ago.

Republicans are almost universally stupid, and/or dishonest.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Who claimed the Dems had a supermajority for 2 years?

Florida Republican Connie Mack did on Foxnews,

about 15 minutes ago.

Republicans are almost universally stupid, and/or dishonest.

Let's see we have a radical right wing president in the white house and a majority controlled republican house with 59 Republicans in the Senate, can you handle that?

 

[francoHFW]

The Truth is that the Democrats only had a filibuster-proof majority for 24 working days during that period. Here are the details:

To define terms, a Filibuster-Proof Majority or Super Majority is the number of votes required to overcome a filibuster in the Senate. According to current Senate rules, 60 votes are required to overcome a filibuster.

Here is a time-line of the events after the 2008 election:

1. BALANCE BEFORE THE ELECTION. In 2007 – 2008 the balance in the Senate was 51-49 in favor of the Democrats. On top of that, there was a Republican president who would likely veto any legislation the Republicans didn’t like. Not exactly a super majority.

2. BIG GAIN IN 2008, BUT STILL NO SUPER MAJORITY. Coming out the 2008 election, the Democrats made big gains, but they didn’t immediately get a Super Majority. The Minnesota Senate race required a recount and was not undecided for more than six months. During that time, Norm Coleman was still sitting in the Senate and the Balance 59-41, still not a Super Majority.

3. KENNEDY GRAVELY ILL. Teddy Kennedy casts his last vote in April and leaves Washington for good around the first of May. Technically he could come back to Washington vote on a pressing issue, but in actual fact, he never returns, even to vote on the Sotomayor confirmation. That leaves the balance in the Senate 58-41, two votes away from a super majority.

4. STILL NO SUPER MAJORITY. In July, Al Frankin was finally declared the winner and was sworn in on July 7th, 2009, so the Democrats finally had a Super Majority of 60-40 six and one-half months into the year. However, by this point, Kennedy was unable to return to Washington even to participate in the Health Care debate, so it was only a technical super majority because Kennedy could no longer vote and the Senate does not allow proxies. Now the actual actual balance of voting members is 59-40 not enough to overcome a Republican filibuster.

5. SENATE IS IN RECESS. Even if Kennedy were able to vote, the Senate went into summer recess three weeks later, from August 7th to September 8th.

6. KENNEDY DIES. Six weeks later, on Aug 26, 2009 Teddy Kennedy died, putting the balance at 59-40. Now the Democrats don’t even have technical super majority.

7. FINALLY, A SUPER MAJORITY! Kennedy’s replacement was sworn in on September 25, 2009, finally making the majority 60-40, just enough for a super majority.

8. SENATE ADJOURNS. However the Senate adjourned for the year on October 9th, only providing 11 working days of super majority, from September 25th to October 9th.

8. SCOTT BROWN ELECTED. Scott Brown was elected in November of 2009. The Senate was not in session during November and December of 2009. The Senate was in session for 10 days in January, but Scott Brown was sworn into office on February 4th, so the Democrats only had 13 days of super majority in 2010.

Summary: The Democrats only had 24 days of Super Majority between 2008 and 2010.

Discussion: The Democrats had a super majority for a total of 24 days. On top of that, the period of Super Majority was split into one 11-day period and one 13-day period. Given the glacial pace that business takes place in the Senate, this was way too little time for the Democrats pass any meaningful legislation, let alone get bills through committees and past all the obstructionistic tactics the Republicans were using to block legislation.

Further, these Super Majorities count Joe Lieberman as a Democrat even though he was by this time an Independent. Even though he was Liberal on some legislation, he was very conservative on other issues and opposed many of the key pieces of legislation the Democrats and Obama wanted to pass. For example, he was adamantly opposed to “Single Payer” health care and vowed to support a Republican Filibuster if it ever came to the floor.

Summary:

1. 1/07 – 12/08 – 51-49 – Ordinary Majority.
2. 1/09 – 7/14/09 – 59-41 – Ordinary Majority. (Coleman/Franklin Recount.)
3. 7/09 – 8/09 - 60-40 – Technical Super Majority, but since Kennedy is unable to vote, the Democrats can’t overcome a filibuster
4. 8/09 – 9/09 - 59-40 – Ordinary Majority. (Kennedy dies)
5. 9/09 – 10/09 - 60-40 – Super Majority for 11 working days.
6. 1/10 – 2/10 – 60-40 – Super Majority for 13 working days

Total Time of the Democratic Super Majority: 24 Working days.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/resources/pdf/2009_calendar.pdf
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/resources/pdf/2010_calendar.pdf
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meh




nobody cares.




Perception is 95% reality s0n. Ever decide on that future avatar bro??

You mean lying Pub a-holes and loudmouth Ugly 'Merican Pub dupes don't care.

So you're saying BULLSHYTTE propaganda is what counts. Un-American and a disgrace.

ALL Pubs say this ALL the time. ANOTHER Pub big lie...

 

[Listening]

You mean lying Pub a-holes and loudmouth Ugly 'Merican Pub dupes don't care.

So you're saying BULLSHYTTE propaganda is what counts. Un-American and a disgrace.

ALL Pubs say this ALL the time. ANOTHER Pub big lie...

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

4. 8/09 – 9/09 - 59-40 – Ordinary Majority. (Kennedy dies)


Sorry Charlie. 51-49 is an ordinary majority.
59-40 is a supermajority.
It isn't filibuster proof, but it is a supermajority.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Wait Dems compromised during the Bush years? Man, how fucked up are the repubs who claim compromise never happened? What worse is they use the lie, Dems don't compromise as a justification for never compromising.

 

[francoHFW]

A supermajority is 60 votes and filibusterproof.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

The Truth is that the Democrats only had a filibuster-proof majority for 24 working days during that period. Here are the details:

To define terms, a Filibuster-Proof Majority or Super Majority is the number of votes required to overcome a filibuster in the Senate. According to current Senate rules, 60 votes are required to overcome a filibuster.

Here is a time-line of the events after the 2008 election:

1. BALANCE BEFORE THE ELECTION. In 2007 – 2008 the balance in the Senate was 51-49 in favor of the Democrats. On top of that, there was a Republican president who would likely veto any legislation the Republicans didn’t like. Not exactly a super majority.

2. BIG GAIN IN 2008, BUT STILL NO SUPER MAJORITY. Coming out the 2008 election, the Democrats made big gains, but they didn’t immediately get a Super Majority. The Minnesota Senate race required a recount and was not undecided for more than six months. During that time, Norm Coleman was still sitting in the Senate and the Balance 59-41, still not a Super Majority.

3. KENNEDY GRAVELY ILL. Teddy Kennedy casts his last vote in April and leaves Washington for good around the first of May. Technically he could come back to Washington vote on a pressing issue, but in actual fact, he never returns, even to vote on the Sotomayor confirmation. That leaves the balance in the Senate 58-41, two votes away from a super majority.

4. STILL NO SUPER MAJORITY. In July, Al Frankin was finally declared the winner and was sworn in on July 7th, 2009, so the Democrats finally had a Super Majority of 60-40 six and one-half months into the year. However, by this point, Kennedy was unable to return to Washington even to participate in the Health Care debate, so it was only a technical super majority because Kennedy could no longer vote and the Senate does not allow proxies. Now the actual actual balance of voting members is 59-40 not enough to overcome a Republican filibuster.

5. SENATE IS IN RECESS. Even if Kennedy were able to vote, the Senate went into summer recess three weeks later, from August 7th to September 8th.

6. KENNEDY DIES. Six weeks later, on Aug 26, 2009 Teddy Kennedy died, putting the balance at 59-40. Now the Democrats don’t even have technical super majority.

7. FINALLY, A SUPER MAJORITY! Kennedy’s replacement was sworn in on September 25, 2009, finally making the majority 60-40, just enough for a super majority.

8. SENATE ADJOURNS. However the Senate adjourned for the year on October 9th, only providing 11 working days of super majority, from September 25th to October 9th.

8. SCOTT BROWN ELECTED. Scott Brown was elected in November of 2009. The Senate was not in session during November and December of 2009. The Senate was in session for 10 days in January, but Scott Brown was sworn into office on February 4th, so the Democrats only had 13 days of super majority in 2010.

Summary: The Democrats only had 24 days of Super Majority between 2008 and 2010.

Discussion: The Democrats had a super majority for a total of 24 days. On top of that, the period of Super Majority was split into one 11-day period and one 13-day period. Given the glacial pace that business takes place in the Senate, this was way too little time for the Democrats pass any meaningful legislation, let alone get bills through committees and past all the obstructionistic tactics the Republicans were using to block legislation.

Further, these Super Majorities count Joe Lieberman as a Democrat even though he was by this time an Independent. Even though he was Liberal on some legislation, he was very conservative on other issues and opposed many of the key pieces of legislation the Democrats and Obama wanted to pass. For example, he was adamantly opposed to “Single Payer” health care and vowed to support a Republican Filibuster if it ever came to the floor.

Summary:

1. 1/07 – 12/08 – 51-49 – Ordinary Majority.
2. 1/09 – 7/14/09 – 59-41 – Ordinary Majority. (Coleman/Franklin Recount.)
3. 7/09 – 8/09 - 60-40 – Technical Super Majority, but since Kennedy is unable to vote, the Democrats can’t overcome a filibuster
4. 8/09 – 9/09 - 59-40 – Ordinary Majority. (Kennedy dies)
5. 9/09 – 10/09 - 60-40 – Super Majority for 11 working days.
6. 1/10 – 2/10 – 60-40 – Super Majority for 13 working days

Total Time of the Democratic Super Majority: 24 Working days.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/resources/pdf/2009_calendar.pdf
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/resources/pdf/2010_calendar.pdf
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Don't use facts. It confuses them.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A supermajority is 60 votes and filibusterproof.

Noun:




A number that is much more than half of a total, esp. in a vote.

 

[francoHFW]

supermajority - The Free Dictionary
su·per·ma·jor·i·ty (s p r-m -jôr -t , -j r -). n. pl. su·per·ma·jor·i·ties. A specified
majority of votes, such as 60 percent, required to approve a motion or pass
legislation.

supermajority - definition of supermajority by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia. - Cached - Similar

and we're talking about the senate, and a supermajority there is 60 votes.

and the dupes are clueless, and now brainwashed by the PPM. See sig pp1 for what they don't tell you, and pp3 for a little of what you "know"...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

supermajority - The Free Dictionary
su·per·ma·jor·i·ty (s p r-m -jôr -t , -j r -). n. pl. su·per·ma·jor·i·ties. A specified
majority of votes, such as 60 percent, required to approve a motion or pass
legislation.

supermajority - definition of supermajority by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia. - Cached - Similar

and we're talking about the senate, and a supermajority there is 60 votes.

and the dupes are clueless, and now brainwashed by the PPM. See sig pp1 for what they don't tell you, and pp3 for a little of what you "know"...

Let's see we have a radical right wing president in the white house and a majority controlled republican house with 59 Republicans in the Senate, can you handle that? And one blue dog very Conservative democrat in the senate. Can you live with that?