Dem supermajority for 24 days, NOT 2 YEARS. Lying Pubs!

[blackhawk]

Super majority filibuster proof majority whatever the undeniable truth is when Obama was sworn in the Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate with a overwhelming numbers advantage.For a little recap during those first two year's he wanted and got passed auto bailout, stimulus, Wall Street reform, and of course Obamacare there were other things but these were the four big one's now if getting these things passed has not worked for you here is quote that is very fitting.

There are only two tragedies in life one is not getting what one want's and the other is getting it.
Oscar Wilde.

 

[francoHFW]

The auto bailout is part of the stimulus, and amazingly 2 Pubs voted for it- maybe they didn't want a full blown depression and the end of our auto industry. Dems allow a honeymoon, Obama never got one, or that was it. I believe financial reform, and definitely ,were when Dems had 60 votes.

Republican Obstruction at Work: Record Number of Filibusters ...
Mar 2, 2010 ... The History of Filibusters in the US Congress ... When just a year before
corporate pundits were declaring the Democratic Party dead, they won ...

newsjunkiepost.com/.../republican-obstruction-at-work-record-number-of-filibusters/ - Cached - Similar

Really tiring telling the dupes what's going on in the world...unbelievable chumps.

 

[francoHFW]

Of course Pubs have blocked almost all of the implementation of Dodd-Frank- while complaining bitterly that it's a horrible failure. Where is your planet, anyway?

 

[francoHFW]

They've also blocked all his policies since 2/2010, while complaining bitterly his policies are ruining the recovery LOL

"No compromise, un-American Tea Party GOP" (TIME)...and the dupes.

 

[rdean]

The Dream Act passed the House.

It passed the Senate with 55 votes.

It was filibustered by Republicans.

True story.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No they dont have party discipline like in Europe, but it does matter. The healthcare vote was extremely partisan. I mean it costs congressmen their jobs, because people voted for it when the public didnt want it and still doesnt.

No party has EVER been as lockstep filibusterers as Pubs right now. Not to mention destructive brinkmanship on normally routine things like debt limit rises, and ridiculous witch hunts. Or such lying propagandists. A disgrace.

ACA is a GD Pub bill, based on Nixon/Dole/Heritage/Newt/Romney plans. Just shows what swine Pubs are these days. Not only Pub voters are dupes of their gigantic propaganda machine, and 30 % wanted MORE, ie single payer.

ACA will be THE most popular gov't progam by 2016. Romneycare is a great success, has cut costs 15%, and Mass already has the slowest rising costs in the US, 2%/yr. (Frontline) And ACA is better...

Trolls don't argue facts, they make stupid insults, Pubtroll (#13) (the only kind).

Seems like you are repeating left wing talking points:

Wednesday, October 12, 2011On Unprecedented Republican Filibusters of Obama
Someone recently pointed me to a source designed to back up his statement that Republicans have obstructed President Obama’s agenda through an unprecedented use of the filibuster. Of course, his source did nothing to prove his point since the author was documenting the record number of filibusters under George W. Bush, not Obama, but that didn’t stop him from maintaining his assertion of obstruction. As resident fact checker here at The Heathen Republican, I decided to determine the truth about filibusters and our two parties.



Below, I’ve examined 22 years of filibusters, and highlighted the 111th congress in more detail. What you’ll see is that there is no clear pattern of one party filibustering more than another. You’ll also see that the data are ambiguous enough that both parties have the ability to spin the message to blame the other party for excessive filibusters. Even though the two charts below definitively prove him wrong, I expect “someone” to spin the data to prove his case against Republicans in the comment thread (in order to avoid embarrassing

The Heathen Republican: On Unprecedented Republican Filibusters of Obama




The Heathen Republican: On Unprecedented Republican Filibusters of Obama

Something you left out from your source

It’s clear to me that someone who claims Republicans have obstructed President Obama with a record number of filibusters simply doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Like just about everything in politics, both parties take advantage of the tools at their disposal to accomplish their ends, and prevent the opposition from accomplishing theirs. Sounds like politics as usual to me.

 

[GuyPinestra]

The Dream Act passed the House.

It passed the Senate with 55 votes.

It was filibustered by Republicans.

True story.

That's ONE... and it deserves a round of applause... What else you got?

 

[rdean]

What's a "secular conservative blog"? They don't care about God when they lie?

 

[Amelia]

The Dream Act passed the House.

It passed the Senate with 55 votes.

It was filibustered by Republicans.

True story.

Too bad Obama didn't put his political capital behind that. If he had really wanted it, he could have gotten it done. But he only payed lip service to that promise.

He showed that what he really cared about he would throw his weight behind. He can wheel and deal. But he didn't really care about immigration reform. He just had to make a promise to shore up a constituency. ... and then 4 years later ... oh gee ... gotta do something about that voting bloc again. Bingo, something he said a year ago couldn't be done is suddenly doable.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I'm all for being an obstructionist when the arson keeps bringing gas to my house fire. I'm going to do every thing in my power to obstruct him.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Super-majority and filibuster-proof are totally meaningless terms as they apply to the political parties,

for the simple reason that no party member is required to vote with his party.

It's just fodder for meaningless conversations.

No they dont have party discipline like in Europe, but it does matter. The healthcare vote was extremely partisan. I mean it costs congressmen their jobs, because people voted for it when the public didnt want it and still doesnt.

A bigger percentage of Democrats who voted against the healthcare bill lost their jobs in 2010 than did Democrats who voted for it.

 

[rdean]

The Dream Act passed the House.

It passed the Senate with 55 votes.

It was filibustered by Republicans.

True story.

That's ONE... and it deserves a round of applause... What else you got?

The Republicans

“Today the Republicans decided to filibuster an amendment that goes straight to the well-being of our troops. I deeply regret this move, which makes it necessary for the amendment to be passed with a minimum of 60 votes instead of 51.

US Politics | Republicans are filibustering Webb's bill that actually supports the troops

Bills Republicans Have Blocked

At least, check out the last link.

Did that help?

 

[NYcarbineer]

No they dont have party discipline like in Europe, but it does matter. The healthcare vote was extremely partisan. I mean it costs congressmen their jobs, because people voted for it when the public didnt want it and still doesnt.

No party has EVER been as lockstep filibusterers as Pubs right now. Not to mention destructive brinkmanship on normally routine things like debt limit rises, and ridiculous witch hunts. Or such lying propagandists. A disgrace.

ACA is a GD Pub bill, based on Nixon/Dole/Heritage/Newt/Romney plans. Just shows what swine Pubs are these days. Not only Pub voters are dupes of their gigantic propaganda machine, and 30 % wanted MORE, ie single payer.

ACA will be THE most popular gov't progam by 2016. Romneycare is a great success, has cut costs 15%, and Mass already has the slowest rising costs in the US, 2%/yr. (Frontline) And ACA is better...

Trolls don't argue facts, they make stupid insults, Pubtroll (the only kind).

I think I asked this question in this very thread a little while ago, and you didn't answer. Now you're repeating the same BS with absolutely no shame. What filibuster did the R's use against your Messiah's plans?

Answer or SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

They blocked the Dream Act, which passed the House and had 55 votes in the Senate.

 

[GuyPinestra]

Man, it's good to see those boys doing the job they were hired to do, ain't it?

 

[francoHFW]

No they dont have party discipline like in Europe, but it does matter. The healthcare vote was extremely partisan. I mean it costs congressmen their jobs, because people voted for it when the public didnt want it and still doesnt.

No party has EVER been as lockstep filibusterers as Pubs right now. Not to mention destructive brinkmanship on normally routine things like debt limit rises, and ridiculous witch hunts. Or such lying propagandists. A disgrace.

ACA is a GD Pub bill, based on Nixon/Dole/Heritage/Newt/Romney plans. Just shows what swine Pubs are these days. Not only Pub voters are dupes of their gigantic propaganda machine, and 30 % wanted MORE, ie single payer.

ACA will be THE most popular gov't progam by 2016. Romneycare is a great success, has cut costs 15%, and Mass already has the slowest rising costs in the US, 2%/yr. (Frontline) And ACA is better...

Trolls don't argue facts, they make stupid insults, Pubtroll (the only kind).

I think I asked this question in this very thread a little while ago, and you didn't answer. Now you're repeating the same BS with absolutely no shame. What filibuster did the R's use against your Messiah's plans?

Answer or SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

So you're proud of your brainwashed ignorance, AND your party's "un-American" intransigence, country be damned, AND their lies...typical loudmouth Pub dupe....

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No party has EVER been as lockstep filibusterers as Pubs right now. Not to mention destructive brinkmanship on normally routine things like debt limit rises, and ridiculous witch hunts. Or such lying propagandists. A disgrace.

ACA is a GD Pub bill, based on Nixon/Dole/Heritage/Newt/Romney plans. Just shows what swine Pubs are these days. Not only Pub voters are dupes of their gigantic propaganda machine, and 30 % wanted MORE, ie single payer.

ACA will be THE most popular gov't progam by 2016. Romneycare is a great success, has cut costs 15%, and Mass already has the slowest rising costs in the US, 2%/yr. (Frontline) And ACA is better...

Trolls don't argue facts, they make stupid insults, Pubtroll (the only kind).

I think I asked this question in this very thread a little while ago, and you didn't answer. Now you're repeating the same BS with absolutely no shame. What filibuster did the R's use against your Messiah's plans?

Answer or SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

So you're proud of your brainwashed ignorance, AND your party's "un-American" intransigence, country be damned, AND their lies...typical loudmouth Pub dupe....

I have this friend who has 17 years old daughter who want's to date this 19 year old guy. We both know the guy and he's a player who has knocked up three other girls. The Father is trying his best to obstruct his daughter from seeing the guy but the mother fully supports her daughter who wants to see the guy. Is my friend justified in being an obstructionist?

 

[Listening]

Well, Boooshies only passed tax cuts- only 51 votes needed. And there was always the blue dogs. Dems are not lockstep liars and obstructionists like Pubs (see Iraq)...

All Pubs care about are stupid tax cuts and putting their cronies in charge of the SEC, GSA, ATF, pentagon, etc so they can rip off the country and pretend they're cops and soldiers, stupid chickenhawks...

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[francoHFW]

Pub dupes! LOL

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The Truth is that the Democrats only had a filibuster-proof majority for 24 working days during that period. Here are the details:

To define terms, a Filibuster-Proof Majority or Super Majority is the number of votes required to overcome a filibuster in the Senate. According to current Senate rules, 60 votes are required to overcome a filibuster.

Here is a time-line of the events after the 2008 election:

1. BALANCE BEFORE THE ELECTION. In 2007 – 2008 the balance in the Senate was 51-49 in favor of the Democrats. On top of that, there was a Republican president who would likely veto any legislation the Republicans didn’t like. Not exactly a super majority.

2. BIG GAIN IN 2008, BUT STILL NO SUPER MAJORITY. Coming out the 2008 election, the Democrats made big gains, but they didn’t immediately get a Super Majority. The Minnesota Senate race required a recount and was not undecided for more than six months. During that time, Norm Coleman was still sitting in the Senate and the Balance 59-41, still not a Super Majority.

3. KENNEDY GRAVELY ILL. Teddy Kennedy casts his last vote in April and leaves Washington for good around the first of May. Technically he could come back to Washington vote on a pressing issue, but in actual fact, he never returns, even to vote on the Sotomayor confirmation. That leaves the balance in the Senate 58-41, two votes away from a super majority.

4. STILL NO SUPER MAJORITY. In July, Al Frankin was finally declared the winner and was sworn in on July 7th, 2009, so the Democrats finally had a Super Majority of 60-40 six and one-half months into the year. However, by this point, Kennedy was unable to return to Washington even to participate in the Health Care debate, so it was only a technical super majority because Kennedy could no longer vote and the Senate does not allow proxies. Now the actual actual balance of voting members is 59-40 not enough to overcome a Republican filibuster.

5. SENATE IS IN RECESS. Even if Kennedy were able to vote, the Senate went into summer recess three weeks later, from August 7th to September 8th.

6. KENNEDY DIES. Six weeks later, on Aug 26, 2009 Teddy Kennedy died, putting the balance at 59-40. Now the Democrats don’t even have technical super majority.

7. FINALLY, A SUPER MAJORITY! Kennedy’s replacement was sworn in on September 25, 2009, finally making the majority 60-40, just enough for a super majority.

8. SENATE ADJOURNS. However the Senate adjourned for the year on October 9th, only providing 11 working days of super majority, from September 25th to October 9th.

8. SCOTT BROWN ELECTED. Scott Brown was elected in November of 2009. The Senate was not in session during November and December of 2009. The Senate was in session for 10 days in January, but Scott Brown was sworn into office on February 4th, so the Democrats only had 13 days of super majority in 2010.

Summary: The Democrats only had 24 days of Super Majority between 2008 and 2010.

Discussion: The Democrats had a super majority for a total of 24 days. On top of that, the period of Super Majority was split into one 11-day period and one 13-day period. Given the glacial pace that business takes place in the Senate, this was way too little time for the Democrats pass any meaningful legislation, let alone get bills through committees and past all the obstructionistic tactics the Republicans were using to block legislation.

Further, these Super Majorities count Joe Lieberman as a Democrat even though he was by this time an Independent. Even though he was Liberal on some legislation, he was very conservative on other issues and opposed many of the key pieces of legislation the Democrats and Obama wanted to pass. For example, he was adamantly opposed to “Single Payer” health care and vowed to support a Republican Filibuster if it ever came to the floor.

Summary:

1. 1/07 – 12/08 – 51-49 – Ordinary Majority.
2. 1/09 – 7/14/09 – 59-41 – Ordinary Majority. (Coleman/Franklin Recount.)
3. 7/09 – 8/09 - 60-40 – Technical Super Majority, but since Kennedy is unable to vote, the Democrats can’t overcome a filibuster
4. 8/09 – 9/09 - 59-40 – Ordinary Majority. (Kennedy dies)
5. 9/09 – 10/09 - 60-40 – Super Majority for 11 working days.
6. 1/10 – 2/10 – 60-40 – Super Majority for 13 working days

Total Time of the Democratic Super Majority: 24 Working days.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/resources/pdf/2009_calendar.pdf
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/resources/pdf/2010_calendar.pdf
United States Senate election in Minnesota, 2008 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
111th United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Politics | Fact Left

Using your logic that 59 Senators do not control the Senate then Bush never had the Senate in the 8 years he was President. The most he ever had was 51 Senators.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Pub dupes! LOL

Just wondering if you realize being an obstructionist as you called sometimes is a good thing
I have this friend who has 17 years old daughter who want's to date this 19 year old guy. We both know the guy and he's a player who has knocked up three other girls. The Father is trying his best to obstruct his daughter from seeing the guy but the mother fully supports her daughter who wants to see the guy. Is my friend justified in being an obstructionist?