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the military ,SS, and the US mail will stay open and paid ,No, he doesn't. Thomas is a neocon and social Conservative.
and a drunk
Least my sister will now be paid on time..She was worried.
And before any jackoff says shit, she is in the navy, and her husband is a marine.
From what I have read leading up to this, the military (at least the essential personnel) were scheduled to be paid even if the government was shut down.
Can I ask if you had different information in that regard as I am curious to know.
If you have an answer to this and I don't respond tonight, thank you but I am headed to bed shortly.
Immie
for someone who advocates for a 500 billion dollar carnival trick, I guess thats what I could expect.
Most of the crap was taken out, including the Planned Parenthood part.
I thought Boehner and the GOP came out of it pretty well, they got historic spending cuts from a democratic Senate and WH and avoided a shutdown that many might have blamed them for and used against them next year. This was it, as good as they were going to get, and besides it showed Boehner has enough control over his caucus to make them very formidable in the budget talks for FY 2012. Looked to me like they (GOP) were dealing from a position of resolute strength thanks in part to the TP and all those freshman reps.
for someone who advocates for a 500 billion dollar carnival trick, I guess thats what I could expect.
Nonsense. The attacks on that originated with Paul Ryan. The very same Paul Ryan who incorporated that "carnival trick" wholesale into his budget proposal.
Granted, those savings don't actually make sense in the context of his proposal. But at least he's made it clear that his charges were simply empty posturing. Because that wasn't obvious all along.
for someone who advocates for a 500 billion dollar carnival trick, I guess thats what I could expect.
Nonsense. The attacks on that originated with Paul Ryan. The very same Paul Ryan who incorporated that "carnival trick" wholesale into his budget proposal.
Granted, those savings don't actually make sense in the context of his proposal. But at least he's made it clear that his charges were simply empty posturing. Because that wasn't obvious all along.
ah well, we are making progress, so it was a budget trick?
If I were a betting man, I'd be offering 10:1 odds that Boehner and company caved and 50:1 odds that come next election the Republicans and Tea Party will have forgotten.
Immie
I'd bet 100:1 odds that you're a parasite sucking on the government tit.
the military ,SS, and the US mail will stay open and paid ,and a drunk
Least my sister will now be paid on time..She was worried.
And before any jackoff says shit, she is in the navy, and her husband is a marine.
From what I have read leading up to this, the military (at least the essential personnel) were scheduled to be paid even if the government was shut down.
Can I ask if you had different information in that regard as I am curious to know.
If you have an answer to this and I don't respond tonight, thank you but I am headed to bed shortly.
Immie
the repigs use filibusters and government shutdown , the Dems cave no matter what , the Dems are like the french , surrender is their first thought
the military ,SS, and the US mail will stay open and paid ,From what I have read leading up to this, the military (at least the essential personnel) were scheduled to be paid even if the government was shut down.
Can I ask if you had different information in that regard as I am curious to know.
If you have an answer to this and I don't respond tonight, thank you but I am headed to bed shortly.
Immie
the repigs use filibusters and government shutdown , the Dems cave no matter what , the Dems are like the french , surrender is their first thought
I'm sorry, the Dems caved? Are you serious. They got everything they wanted in this including making Boehner and company looking like nitwits, but the Dems caved? Really? You must have wanted another trillion or two "stimulus" money in this years budget.
Immie
The GOP did the right thing. The real battles are the Debt Ceiling and the Real Budget (The Ryan Plan). Delaying getting to these by fighting over a few $billion is a waste of dry powder.
Now the real work can begin - and the troops in the field are no longer held hostage by the Dems.
the military ,SS, and the US mail will stay open and paid ,
the repigs use filibusters and government shutdown , the Dems cave no matter what , the Dems are like the french , surrender is their first thought
I'm sorry, the Dems caved? Are you serious. They got everything they wanted in this including making Boehner and company looking like nitwits, but the Dems caved? Really? You must have wanted another trillion or two "stimulus" money in this years budget.
Immie
Are you kidding? They caved big time, especially Reid. The Dems WANTED a shut down.
Also, there is going to be a separate Senate vote on the bill to cancel ObamaCare. That is huge.
I'm sorry, the Dems caved? Are you serious. They got everything they wanted in this including making Boehner and company looking like nitwits, but the Dems caved? Really? You must have wanted another trillion or two "stimulus" money in this years budget.
Immie
Are you kidding? They caved big time, especially Reid. The Dems WANTED a shut down.
Also, there is going to be a separate Senate vote on the bill to cancel ObamaCare. That is huge.
Are you kidding?
The Dems wanted Boehner to shut down the government. When Boehner and company accepted their offer, Reid had no choice but to move forward.
A separate vote on removing the funding of Health Care Reform? Reid promised a vote on HCR in the Senate... controlled by Dems. Big deal, everyone knows that is not going to pass, if he even allows it. My understanding is they promised the same thing on Planned Parenthood funding.
In the meantime, they cut $38.5 billion out of this year's budget. We don't yet even know what that consists of which is something I can't wait to hear. Truthfully, I would not be surprised if it didn't all come out of the defense budget to further prove that Boehner is weak. I highly doubt it came out of anything near and dear to the Democratic Party since it is supposedly what they offered in the first place.
Immie
PS: forgive me if I sound a bit cynical about the Republicans who have promised to reduce the deficit.
Boehner Wins Big
April 9, 2011 2:21 A.M.
By Andrew Stiles
President Obamas 2011 budget called for a spending increase of $40 billion. Tonight, he touted a bipartisan agreement on the largest annual spending cut in our history some $38.5 billion [emphasis added]. All told, he got $78.5 billion less than he originally requested.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) didnt want to cut anything at first. But bowing to political reality, eventually ponied up a measly $4.7 billion in cuts. He ended up with $33.8 billion less spending than he wanted. And he called it an historic accomplishment. (Not surprisingly, the left is appalled).
House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio), on the other hand, initially proposed $32 billion in spending cuts. House Republicans, led by an undaunted freshman class, bumped that number up to $61 billion ($100 billion off the presidents budget), before settling on $38.5 billion.
Thats $6.5 billion more than Boehner asked for to begin with, and $5.5 billion more than the $33 billion that Vice President Joe Biden and Senate Democrats claimed had been agreed to less than two weeks ago. It remains to be seen how much of that will be real cuts to discretionary spending, but all told, it appears that we'll see a substantial reduction in baseline spending that will yield hundreds of billions in savings over the next decade.
But unlike Obama and Reid, the speaker didnt quite feel the need to pat himself on the back over it. As he has said all along, Our goal to cut spending and keep the government open. He did just that. We fought to keep government spending down, Boehner told reporters in a brief speech after the deal was announced. And theyll keep fighting, because the biggest battles over the debt limit and the 2012 budget are still to come...
Are you kidding? They caved big time, especially Reid. The Dems WANTED a shut down.
Also, there is going to be a separate Senate vote on the bill to cancel ObamaCare. That is huge.
Are you kidding?
The Dems wanted Boehner to shut down the government. When Boehner and company accepted their offer, Reid had no choice but to move forward.
A separate vote on removing the funding of Health Care Reform? Reid promised a vote on HCR in the Senate... controlled by Dems. Big deal, everyone knows that is not going to pass, if he even allows it. My understanding is they promised the same thing on Planned Parenthood funding.
In the meantime, they cut $38.5 billion out of this year's budget. We don't yet even know what that consists of which is something I can't wait to hear. Truthfully, I would not be surprised if it didn't all come out of the defense budget to further prove that Boehner is weak. I highly doubt it came out of anything near and dear to the Democratic Party since it is supposedly what they offered in the first place.
Immie
PS: forgive me if I sound a bit cynical about the Republicans who have promised to reduce the deficit.
I don't know Immie, seems they got what they could now, while not allowing the Democrats to blame them for the shut down. While the last election switched the House, it didn't change the Senate or President. Here's another way to look at the same results:
Boehner Wins Big - By Andrew Stiles - The Corner - National Review Online
Boehner Wins Big
April 9, 2011 2:21 A.M.
By Andrew Stiles
President Obamas 2011 budget called for a spending increase of $40 billion. Tonight, he touted a bipartisan agreement on the largest annual spending cut in our history some $38.5 billion [emphasis added]. All told, he got $78.5 billion less than he originally requested.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) didnt want to cut anything at first. But bowing to political reality, eventually ponied up a measly $4.7 billion in cuts. He ended up with $33.8 billion less spending than he wanted. And he called it an historic accomplishment. (Not surprisingly, the left is appalled).
House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio), on the other hand, initially proposed $32 billion in spending cuts. House Republicans, led by an undaunted freshman class, bumped that number up to $61 billion ($100 billion off the presidents budget), before settling on $38.5 billion.
Thats $6.5 billion more than Boehner asked for to begin with, and $5.5 billion more than the $33 billion that Vice President Joe Biden and Senate Democrats claimed had been agreed to less than two weeks ago. It remains to be seen how much of that will be real cuts to discretionary spending, but all told, it appears that we'll see a substantial reduction in baseline spending that will yield hundreds of billions in savings over the next decade.
But unlike Obama and Reid, the speaker didnt quite feel the need to pat himself on the back over it. As he has said all along, Our goal to cut spending and keep the government open. He did just that. We fought to keep government spending down, Boehner told reporters in a brief speech after the deal was announced. And theyll keep fighting, because the biggest battles over the debt limit and the 2012 budget are still to come...
The Dems will try to spin this as a loss for the GOP, but it's a move of desperation. They spent the past week hysterically blaming the GOP for being willing to shut down the government just to KILL WOMEN BY DENYING THEM HEALTH CARE.
The Dems will try to spin this as a loss for the GOP, but it's a move of desperation. They spent the past week hysterically blaming the GOP for being willing to shut down the government just to KILL WOMEN BY DENYING THEM HEALTH CARE.
Well that's true. My liberal friends and relatives have been blasting the GOP all morning on Facebook. It's amazing what they accuse the GOP of wanting.
I guess I am sufficiently alarmed at the rate we're losing U.S. sovereignty to other nations that don't like us very well purely because we are having to allow them to fund our debt that is increasing hour by hour. I hope we have time to fix that slowly and carefully and with small bites as it appears will be the case.
Toxic Dollar: Why Nobody Seems to Want US Currency
Published: Friday, 8 Apr 2011 |
By: Simon Hobbs
Traders are warning of a dramatic change in dollar selling. They fear central banks from the Middle East may force their Asian rivals to more aggressively drive the dollar down. ...
