Confrimed: Gang Membership Up 40% Under Obama-Violent Attacks On Whites Up 18%

[S.J.]

You can't be that crazy...can you...? Would you prefer the fed to declare martial law?

Martial Law is another issue.

Yes, it will be another issue - IF wingnuts keep degrading regular police. The fed won't allow wingnuts to return to the days of the old west.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[asaratis]

Hmmmmm.................

No Lakhota, I must be fair, the right wingers have a point on this. Gang membership has soared since 2009. Violence on whites probably is up a lot. THey're right about that.

But what they wont say is this:

Across the nation, police department budgets have been slashed.
Across the nation, police department manpower has been slashed.
Across the nation, cops have left the career due to lowered pay and beneifts.
Across the nation, police response time has gone up due to low staffing.
Across the nation, crimes have gone unsolved due to low manpower and overtime budgets.

Yes. Gang membership is beginning to soar again. Violent crime is going up. Theft and drug crime is spreading.

But they wont dare look to the GOP mayors and governors who are directly responsible for having FEWER COPS on the street, LESS EXPERIENCED COPS on the street, and LOWER MORALE amongst the cops who are left.

No no no. They'll blame the guy who has absolutely no control over state, county or city police...........who are in charge of stopping gangs and violence against whites.

But hey....the rich guy can afford the new flat screen TV in his 3rd house instead of paying an extra dime in taxes, so its all good!!!!

Domestic policing is up to the state, county or city. NOT the feds.

If crime and gang membership is up, it is the job of the state, county and city.

And Republican governors, mayors and city councils have slashed PD budgets nationwide.

Causing many cops to seek other careers, lowering manpower and experience on the street, and crushing morale among the cops who are still out there working.

But Obama doesn't have any control over local police. And they are the ones who fight crime and gangs.

Place blame accordingly. Ask your governors, mayors, city councils why they slashed PD budgets.

Party control of Governors' offices after January 16, 2013.

Detroit has had a Democrat for Mayor since 1962...
Chicago has had a Democrat for Mayor since 1931...

Don't go trying to blame the gangland violence on Republicans, you disingenuous twit!

 

[Mac1958]

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Thank goodness we elected a President with an absolutely perfect heritage, mindset and skillset to leverage his influence and bully pulpit to finally bring blacks & whites together. A President who wasn't interested in political advantage, in finger-pointing or in cultivating political favor, but rather one who is a brave leader willing to do what it takes regardless of the political consequences.

Gosh.

I'm sure he'll get on that any day now.

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[LordBrownTrout]

Yes, because there is so much black on white violence and so little black on black crime.

There's even less white on black violence, so what's your point?

Whitey doesn't have as much to be pissed off about as Blacky. Whitey has been in charge since the invasion of Native America. Invade, kill natives, steal land, then import slave labor to do the hard work. What goes around comes around...

Whitey should have completely genocided the Lakota. It would have stopped some serious stupidity.

 

[Wildman]

The writer of the OP, Jim Hoft, is a wingnut with low credibility.

Jim Hoft Leaves Right Network To Embarrass Himself At A New URL | Blog | Media Matters for America

Does Jim Hoft see Leprechauns too? | Crooks and Liars

KILL THE MESSENGER

what a scumbag to ignore the truth, you are in serious need of a mental evaluation or have you stopped taking your meds ?

 

[RKMBrown]

These aren’t “gangs”. These are Obama’s personal soldiers. We have a black problem in America, and no one in government has the spine to admit it, much less find a way to deal with it.

Matthew Bohannon, 19 (L) and his brother Andrew Bohannon, 24 (R) were the latest victims of black on white violence. The brothers were shot and killed outside a Golden Corral Sunday night by four black youths. (FCN)

Newt Gingrich correctly pointed out today that gang membership has grown by 40% since Barack Obama was elected.
Gingrich: Gangs Have Increased By 40 Percent Since Obama Was Elected | RealClearPolitics

There were approximately 1 million gang members in 2008 in the United States, an astonishing number. The FBI reported:

Approximately 1 million gang members belonging to more than 20,000 gangs were criminally active within all 50 states and the District of Columbia as of September 2008.

Today there are at least 1.4 million gang members in the United States, an increase by 40% since 2009. The FBI reported:

Some 33,000 violent street gangs, motorcycle gangs, and prison gangs with about 1.4 million members are criminally active in the U.S. today. Many are sophisticated and well organized; all use violence to control neighborhoods and boost their illegal money-making activities, which include robbery, drug and gun trafficking, fraud, extortion, and prostitution rings. According to the 2011 National Gang Threat Assessment report, gangs are responsible for an average of 48 percent of violent crime in most jurisdictions, and up to 90 percent in others.

Violent attacks on whites increased by 18% last year. Daniel Greenfield at FrontPage reported:

Violent Attacks on Whites Increased %18

Those would be troubling numbers with any group, or any other racial group anyway, but the Department of Justice’s statistics show that violent crimes against White non-Hispanics increased 18 percent from 2010 to 2011.

This increased cannot be put down to an across the board increase in violent crimes, because during that same period, violent crimes against blacks only increased by 2 percent.

Serious Violent Crimes against whites, such as rape and murder, increased by 13 percent. Serious Violent Crimes against blacks within that same period increased by only 4 percent.

Crimes directed at men significantly jumped by 27 percent in that same period suggesting that white men have suffered a major jump in attacks within that year.

Crimes against Hispanics jumped by 42 percent, however Serious Violent Crimes against Hispanics only increased by 7 percent.

Umm okay so where is the causal link between Obama and gang membership? If you can't answer that question, then it is completely ridiculous to blame this on Obama. Newt is an idiot. Just because something sounds like it could be true, it doesn't mean it actually is true.

>>> causal link between Obama and gang membership

Jobs. Under Obama's plan of expanding the democrat voting ranks to destroy America so it can be converted permanently to socialist democracy we have lost 8million jobs during a time that we should have created 10million jobs. The result is 18million people not working that should be working. What happens when people are sitting around doing nothing? Idle hands... Which sector of the American population is voting 95% for this socialist democracy? The Black Sector.

 

[Geaux4it]

Domestic policing is up to the state, county or city. NOT the feds.

If crime and gang membership is up, it is the job of the state, county and city.

And Republican governors, mayors and city councils have slashed PD budgets nationwide.

Causing many cops to seek other careers, lowering manpower and experience on the street, and crushing morale among the cops who are still out there working.

But Obama doesn't have any control over local police. And they are the ones who fight crime and gangs.

Place blame accordingly. Ask your governors, mayors, city councils why they slashed PD budgets.

Um, SMH-

So it's the states job relative to crime, not the FEDs, that's until they don't get what they want then the FED can crap on the state as in Zimmerman trial?

Seems legit

LMAO

-Geaux

 

[zeke]

Some of you act like this info is news? Why?

Gang membership has been on the increase for many years. A great deal of the "recruiting" is done in prison. Now what country jails a large percentage of it's population? Particularly young men. Who then get recruited by gangs.

Because a young man with a felony conviction has a 5% chance of finding a job. Except with a gang selling drugs or guns or just violence.

And basic math says that over time that continuing to jail ever larger percentages of young men would cause an increase in gang membership. This ain't rocket science.

Why you all act so surprised? And Obama had nothing to do with this. Actually the "Three Strikes" law was a real bad idea and caused an explosion in the prison population. Where gang members are often recruited.

And in the inner cities where there are no jobs, what do you expect young men with a conviction, no education and no job skills to do? They are gonna join a gang that wants them. That values them. Where they can make some money. And if they have to shoot someone of get shot, its the nature of their "job".

 

[RKMBrown]

Some of you act like this info is news? Why?

Gang membership has been on the increase for many years. A great deal of the "recruiting" is done in prison. Now what country jails a large percentage of it's population? Particularly young men. Who then get recruited by gangs.

Because a young man with a felony conviction has a 5% chance of finding a job. Except with a gang selling drugs or guns or just violence.

And basic math says that over time that continuing to jail ever larger percentages of young men would cause an increase in gang membership. This ain't rocket science.

Why you all act so surprised? And Obama had nothing to do with this. Actually the "Three Strikes" law was a real bad idea and caused an explosion in the prison population. Where gang members are often recruited.

And in the inner cities where there are no jobs, what do you expect young men with a conviction, no education and no job skills to do? They are gonna join a gang that wants them. That values them. Where they can make some money. And if they have to shoot someone of get shot, its the nature of their "job".

Obama's job, according to him, was to reduce unemployment. He sent trillions to inner cities across the nation to "combat" unemployment. How did that work? Agreed that the war on drugs is a major part of why blacks are in jail. They don't have to sell drugs, and they don't have to stay in their inner cities under the rule of their white and black slave masters who dole out their welfare to them.

 

[zeke]

Some of you act like this info is news? Why?

Gang membership has been on the increase for many years. A great deal of the "recruiting" is done in prison. Now what country jails a large percentage of it's population? Particularly young men. Who then get recruited by gangs.

Because a young man with a felony conviction has a 5% chance of finding a job. Except with a gang selling drugs or guns or just violence.

And basic math says that over time that continuing to jail ever larger percentages of young men would cause an increase in gang membership. This ain't rocket science.

Why you all act so surprised? And Obama had nothing to do with this. Actually the "Three Strikes" law was a real bad idea and caused an explosion in the prison population. Where gang members are often recruited.

And in the inner cities where there are no jobs, what do you expect young men with a conviction, no education and no job skills to do? They are gonna join a gang that wants them. That values them. Where they can make some money. And if they have to shoot someone of get shot, its the nature of their "job".

Obama's job, according to him, was to reduce unemployment. He sent trillions to inner cities across the nation to "combat" unemployment. How did that work? Agreed that the war on drugs is a major part of why blacks are in jail. They don't have to sell drugs, and they don't have to stay in their inner cities under the rule of their white and black slave masters who dole out their welfare to them.

You got a credible link to that piece of info? Trillions? To be nice about it, I think you are making shit up.

And do you really think that inner city young black men are collecting welfare? Like to see that credible source also.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Some of you act like this info is news? Why?

Gang membership has been on the increase for many years. A great deal of the "recruiting" is done in prison. Now what country jails a large percentage of it's population? Particularly young men. Who then get recruited by gangs.

Because a young man with a felony conviction has a 5% chance of finding a job. Except with a gang selling drugs or guns or just violence.

And basic math says that over time that continuing to jail ever larger percentages of young men would cause an increase in gang membership. This ain't rocket science.

Why you all act so surprised? And Obama had nothing to do with this. Actually the "Three Strikes" law was a real bad idea and caused an explosion in the prison population. Where gang members are often recruited.

And in the inner cities where there are no jobs, what do you expect young men with a conviction, no education and no job skills to do? They are gonna join a gang that wants them. That values them. Where they can make some money. And if they have to shoot someone of get shot, its the nature of their "job".

So what do you propose we do with people with multiple felonies?
They're obviously going to continue to commit crimes.
Maybe if prison was a little less pleasant.....

 

[J.E.D]

I fully understand that they ignore the CONTEXT. It's the wingnut way...

Yep.

Violent thugs and gang members roam the street looking for trouble.
Cops are there to intercept them....BEFORE they get to an innocent victim. Arrest them for drugs. Or a suspended license. Whatever. But do that stuff before they get to the victim. PREVENT violent crime.

But cops cost tax money.

And RW'ers HATE paying for anything with taxes (except military government workers).

So, if they have to pick between gang violence soaring but having fewer taxes.......OR.......funding a Police Gang Intervention Unit to track, follow, harrass and break apart violent gangs in an attempt to prevent their violence from reaching the suburbs.................they'll pick lower taxes all day long.

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but law enforcement has been a hindrance to combating violence (especially racial violence) and more specifically, black on white violence. As a white man who takes responsibility for his own protection and freedom, I feel that the cops simply get in the way. If you think we're wringing our hands over budget cuts in law enforcement, you're mistaken. We welcome it, in fact. We prefer handling the problem ourselves. Do you catch my drift?

So, you would prefer that cities have no police so that you can take care of criminals yourself? Sorry, bub, this isn't the wild west. We live in a civilized time with laws and regulations designed to protect people from criminals, We don't need nutjobs with overblown egos taking the law into their own hands.

 

[RKMBrown]

Some of you act like this info is news? Why?

Gang membership has been on the increase for many years. A great deal of the "recruiting" is done in prison. Now what country jails a large percentage of it's population? Particularly young men. Who then get recruited by gangs.

Because a young man with a felony conviction has a 5% chance of finding a job. Except with a gang selling drugs or guns or just violence.

And basic math says that over time that continuing to jail ever larger percentages of young men would cause an increase in gang membership. This ain't rocket science.

Why you all act so surprised? And Obama had nothing to do with this. Actually the "Three Strikes" law was a real bad idea and caused an explosion in the prison population. Where gang members are often recruited.

And in the inner cities where there are no jobs, what do you expect young men with a conviction, no education and no job skills to do? They are gonna join a gang that wants them. That values them. Where they can make some money. And if they have to shoot someone of get shot, its the nature of their "job".

Obama's job, according to him, was to reduce unemployment. He sent trillions to inner cities across the nation to "combat" unemployment. How did that work? Agreed that the war on drugs is a major part of why blacks are in jail. They don't have to sell drugs, and they don't have to stay in their inner cities under the rule of their white and black slave masters who dole out their welfare to them.

You got a credible link to that piece of info? Trillions? To be nice about it, I think you are making shit up.

And do you really think that inner city young black men are collecting welfare? Like to see that credible source also.

Asked and provided:
Welfare spending jumps 32% during Obama's presidency - Washington Times

To your young black men question:
Just one example is that 22% of food stamps goes to the black population, whereas the black population is only 13% of the population. Additionally, 72% of black families are single parent families. Where are these "young black men?" Why are they not raising their kids? Why are they, in in this general group, relying on government to raise their families? Where's the dad? Where's the income provider?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Obama's job, according to him, was to reduce unemployment. He sent trillions to inner cities across the nation to "combat" unemployment. How did that work? Agreed that the war on drugs is a major part of why blacks are in jail. They don't have to sell drugs, and they don't have to stay in their inner cities under the rule of their white and black slave masters who dole out their welfare to them.

You got a credible link to that piece of info? Trillions? To be nice about it, I think you are making shit up.

And do you really think that inner city young black men are collecting welfare? Like to see that credible source also.

Asked and provided:
Welfare spending jumps 32% during Obama's presidency - Washington Times

To your young black men question:
Just one example is that 22% of food stamps goes to the black population, whereas the black population is only 13% of the population. Additionally, 72% of black families are single parent families. Where are these "young black men?" Why are they not raising their kids? Why are they, in in this general group, relying on government to raise their families? Where's the dad? Where's the income provider?

In jail....or over at his other baby momma's house.
You have to wonder about a class of people who emulate rap stars. You dont see me dressing like a cowboy and acting like Wyatt Earp or dressing up as a rockstar and trashing hotel rooms.
It's fucken ridiculous when you think about it.

 

[RKMBrown]

You got a credible link to that piece of info? Trillions? To be nice about it, I think you are making shit up.

And do you really think that inner city young black men are collecting welfare? Like to see that credible source also.

Asked and provided:
Welfare spending jumps 32% during Obama's presidency - Washington Times

To your young black men question:
Just one example is that 22% of food stamps goes to the black population, whereas the black population is only 13% of the population. Additionally, 72% of black families are single parent families. Where are these "young black men?" Why are they not raising their kids? Why are they, in in this general group, relying on government to raise their families? Where's the dad? Where's the income provider?

In jail....or over at his other baby momma's house.
You have to wonder about a class of people who emulate rap stars. You dont see me dressing like a cowboy and acting like Wyatt Earp or dressing up as a rockstar and trashing hotel rooms.
It's fucken ridiculous when you think about it.

Bingo, nothing to do with skin color, its the culture. The culture cultivated by the democrat party leadership into a voting machine.

 

[S.J.]

Yep.

Violent thugs and gang members roam the street looking for trouble.
Cops are there to intercept them....BEFORE they get to an innocent victim. Arrest them for drugs. Or a suspended license. Whatever. But do that stuff before they get to the victim. PREVENT violent crime.

But cops cost tax money.

And RW'ers HATE paying for anything with taxes (except military government workers).

So, if they have to pick between gang violence soaring but having fewer taxes.......OR.......funding a Police Gang Intervention Unit to track, follow, harrass and break apart violent gangs in an attempt to prevent their violence from reaching the suburbs.................they'll pick lower taxes all day long.

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but law enforcement has been a hindrance to combating violence (especially racial violence) and more specifically, black on white violence. As a white man who takes responsibility for his own protection and freedom, I feel that the cops simply get in the way. If you think we're wringing our hands over budget cuts in law enforcement, you're mistaken. We welcome it, in fact. We prefer handling the problem ourselves. Do you catch my drift?

So, you would prefer that cities have no police so that you can take care of criminals yourself? Sorry, bub, this isn't the wild west. We live in a civilized time with laws and regulations designed to protect people from criminals, We don't need nutjobs with overblown egos taking the law into their own hands.

Ask the people in Detroit how "civilized" their city is. And police don't protect anyone from criminals, they show up later to clean up the mess and take pictures. What happened when the L.A. riots started? The cops disappeared at the first sign of violence. Blacks were stopping cars at intersections and attacking anyone who was white. Don't give me that "we live in a civilized society" crap.

 

[Desperado]

And the Zimmerman acquittal sends a message to white America that they don't have to put up with black on white violence any more. That's why Obama and Sharpton are worried, they're afraid those numbers will start changing in favor of Whitey.

Exactly the reason they want to do away with the "Stand Your Ground" Laws

 

[francoHFW]

A) Pass the Immigration reform and a good SS ID card so we can end illegal immigration, and get the educated immigrants we want.
B) Tax the rich fairly, pass some jobs, infrastructure and training bills and O-Care implementation so we're globally competitive and get out of this slowdown.
C) Never elect the GOP, a catastrophe for years. Thanks for Voodoo destroying the nonrich and the country, 9/11, the stupidest wars ever, the SECOND Great World Depression, and 5 years of mindless obstruction.

 

[Spoonman]

And the Zimmerman acquittal sends a message to white America that they don't have to put up with black on white violence any more. That's why Obama and Sharpton are worried, they're afraid those numbers will start changing in favor of Whitey.

Sounds like "whitey" wants to go down with guns blazing.

if thats what we're pushed to, thats what it will be

 

[Spoonman]

Hmmmmm.................

No Lakhota, I must be fair, the right wingers have a point on this. Gang membership has soared since 2009. Violence on whites probably is up a lot. THey're right about that.

But what they wont say is this:

Across the nation, police department budgets have been slashed.
Across the nation, police department manpower has been slashed.
Across the nation, cops have left the career due to lowered pay and beneifts.
Across the nation, police response time has gone up due to low staffing.
Across the nation, crimes have gone unsolved due to low manpower and overtime budgets.

Yes. Gang membership is beginning to soar again. Violent crime is going up. Theft and drug crime is spreading.

But they wont dare look to the GOP mayors and governors who are directly responsible for having FEWER COPS on the street, LESS EXPERIENCED COPS on the street, and LOWER MORALE amongst the cops who are left.

No no no. They'll blame the guy who has absolutely no control over state, county or city police...........who are in charge of stopping gangs and violence against whites.

But hey....the rich guy can afford the new flat screen TV in his 3rd house instead of paying an extra dime in taxes, so its all good!!!!

I fully understand that they ignore the CONTEXT. It's the wingnut way...

Yep.

Violent thugs and gang members roam the street looking for trouble.
Cops are there to intercept them....BEFORE they get to an innocent victim. Arrest them for drugs. Or a suspended license. Whatever. But do that stuff before they get to the victim. PREVENT violent crime.

But cops cost tax money.

And RW'ers HATE paying for anything with taxes (except military government workers).

So, if they have to pick between gang violence soaring but having fewer taxes.......OR.......funding a Police Gang Intervention Unit to track, follow, harrass and break apart violent gangs in an attempt to prevent their violence from reaching the suburbs.................they'll pick lower taxes all day long.

then again, if obama didn't piss away a trillion dollars on pork pretending to fix the economy we'd have money to pay cops. and if obama wasn't increasing his spread the wealth programs, er entitlements, we'd have the money to pay cops. where would you rather have our tax dollars spent? on a welfare nation, an ever growing welfare nation that breeds future welfare members or on cops and education?