Climategate: What Really Happened?

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    Just did a bit more than a skim through. Seems the article is in reality a rehash of what happened two years ago, skirting the newest emails that do put 'lie' to some of the investigations that followed the original release. The writer of the article, like the scientists and pro-AGW pols has her mind made up before writing one word. That's just what got these folks in trouble in the first place.
     
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    I must admit that I was concerned that climategate 1.0 did not have the full impact that it should have had. you only get one chance to catch wrongdoers by surprise before they modify their methods to hide their malfeasence. I think it was a stroke of genius to hold back evidence that shatters the rationalizations and spin used to explain away the first set of emails.

    there is no doubt that the public has been fed a distorted and incomplete version of 'climate science'. inappropriate pressure was put on scientists to toe the line and extraordinary efforts were used to suppress contrary studies from being published or acknowledged.

    those people that are still supporting the climate science principals like Mann and Jones should read accounts by both sides and then decide which explanations make more sense. I am more shocked at how peripheral scientists have continued to support the lack of integrity of Mann, Jones, etc than I am of those who did the misdeeds trying to spin the facts to save their skin. I guess holding on to your career is more important than supporting your principles. just look at Penn State coverups.
     
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    "Journalists" rarely know shit about scientific integrity and/or misconduct. If they recognized their ignorance, they might actually seek an expert's advice on the topic.
     
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    Ummm........Mother Jones is a phoney far lefty website. It is funded by liberal elites and the site NEVER criticizes ANY of the liberal elites, thus, it is phoney.

    Just keeping it real.............:coffee:


    http://www.swans.com/library/art16/barker47.html


    And ps....this idiot Lakotra is now challenging Chris for most naive asshole on the forums.......which, as anybody knows, takes some doing.
     
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    zonly1 Probie still throwin'em

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    Don't ya notice that when the media source that was for man made global warming, get's there ass kick up between there shoulder blades can only resort to crybaby tactics in hopes to get pathetic sympathy vote w/o rationale...the victim card cause they got beat up on the facts.

    Can we get a vote on this?
     
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    from An Open Letter to Dr. Phil Jones of the UEA CRU | Watts Up With That?, where Willis gives a short history of how his FOI request to CRU started climategate rolling, and how the newly released emails back up his story.

     
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    LOL. Yet the glaciers just keep receding, the ice caps continue the melt, the ph of the ocean becomes more acidic by the decade. And you jokers look for some minor error, or anger over the denigration from undegreed amatuers like Watts.

    The increase in the number and severity of extreme weather events doesn't even enter into your little alternative universe. We are now seeing the effects of the changing climate in the price of bread, peanuts, pecans, and many other agricultural products. But you continue to ignore that, even as the value of your earnings declines because of the increase in prices. Talk about living in an alternative universe.

    We are now in a double La Nina, we should see a winter that sets some major records for cold. Bet that instead, what we will see will be that 2011 and 2012 both are in the top 20 warm years, maybe one even in the top ten. Low TSI, very strong La Nina, followed immediatly by a moderate La Nina, yet the world continues to warm. How does that fit your denial?

    But go ahead, find some e-mails from scientists that are pissed about the continued denigration of them and their science. Wave it for the world to see as a bloody rag. And listen to the rest of the world laugh at you as bloody fools. For that you are. Ignoring reality in the name of your political philosophy.
     

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