Christiecrats v. Reagan Democrats

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Media libs are beginning to run the same old game of telling conservatives who their presidential candidate should be. The media’s first choice flamed-out over amnesty for illegals:

In the aftermath of Florida’s Republican Senator Marco Rubio’s star role as the face of the Obama-backed “Gang of Eight” amnesty for illegal aliens bill, the consensus among conservative leaders is that Rubio has lost the trust of the conservative grassroots.

Part of the reason is that, as Byron York of the Washington Examiner put it, “...Any reasonable reading of Rubio's positions [on amnesty for illegal aliens] then and now leads to the conclusion that he has executed a flip-flop of Romneyesque proportions. Rubio's flip-flop is even worse politically. While Romney switched to a position that was popular with the Republican base, Rubio has done just the opposite.”

In the pantheon of political sins detested by grassroots conservative activists, flip-flopping is near the top of the list, but changing one’s position and refusing to admit to the flip-flop ranks even higher.

Conservative Consensus: Marco Rubio Has Lost Our Trust
By CHQ Staff | 7/1/13

Conservative Consensus: Marco Rubio Has Lost Our Trust | ConservativeHQ.com

Rubio’s demise among conservatives leaves the media searching for a Republican who will do no harm to the Socialist agenda should Democrat Hillary Clinton lose. At this point in time New Jersey’s Chris Christie is shaping up as the media/Democrat choice to fill the bill:

Poll: Gov. Chris Christie the 'hottest'
By TAL KOPAN | 8/5/13 6:55 AM EDT

Poll: Gov. Chris Christie the 'hottest' - Tal Kopan - POLITICO.com
There is a bit of humor in a Christie reelection ad:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=chh0z4r421o]WNYC on Gov. Christie's Bipartisan Supporters: "ChristieCrats" - YouTube[/ame]​

New Chris Christie ad embraces ‘ChristieCrats’
By CHARLIE SPIERING | AUGUST 2, 2013 AT 6:15 AM

New Chris Christie ad embraces ?ChristieCrats? | WashingtonExaminer.com

Presumably, Christiecrats will spring up all over the country should New Jersey’s Jolly Fat Man become the Republican candidate in 2016. Before that happens conservatives must answer two questions about Christiecrats:

1. What the hell is a Christiecrat? Answer: Liberal Democrats and RINO. (Neither has any use for conservatism.)

2. When did a Northeast state ever elect a true conservative to anything? Answer: Never.

On top of everything else Woodrow Wilson was the last politician from New Jersey to become president and the country is still suffering from his administrations a century later.

For all of the harm Socialists/Communist did to this country everyone in the MSM believes that the country should be run by Northeast liberalism’s ideology. Hence, a politician does not have to come from the Northeast in order to be a Northeast liberal.

On the plus side, conservatives have two years to come up with a candidate the media hates à la Ronald Reagan. That makes me wonder if the nominating convention will come down to a fight between Christiecrats and Reagan Democrats.

Finally, I have to ask this one. Has anyone seen Dick Morris lately? Agent 6 & ⅞ tells me he now resides with Jimmy Hoffa. I only ask because a few months ago FOX dumped Morris and Karl Rove. Rove is back pontificating on his usual anti-conservative message, while poor Dick Morris disappeared from the face of the Earth.
 
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Democrats have to overcome the republican primary. Maybe they will all reregister.
 
Other than a couple of photo ops with Obama, what has my fellow conservatives upset with Christie?
 
Other than a couple of photo ops with Obama, what has my fellow conservatives upset with Christie?

To eagle7_31: The word “upset” is misleading. It’s not as though Christie had a track record of conservatism then suddenly did something liberal.

My OP should have answered your question. If not try these threads:




Bottom line: The MSM likes him. If nothing else that is enough for conservatives to NOT like him.
 
The media picking the Republican candidate in 2016 is bad enough, but I’m starting to see Karl Rove’s Republicans focusing on the presidential race instead of going after super majorities in both Houses of Congress. What the hell good does it do if somebody like Chris Christie gets the nomination. Win or lose conservatives will be no better off. Proof: Suppose John McCain or Mitt Romney would have won? At least the Chicago sewer rat opened a lot of eyes among independents, not to mention creating the Tea Parties.

Giving free national publicity to silly Hillary Clinton movies is not something conservatives should be doing. The media and the Democrat base will love any fairy tale told about Clinton. Conservatives do not have to watch the crap. In fact, based on nothing more than reading the things liberals are sure to say about Clinton’s lengthy campaign ads conservatives can have a ball pointing out that Snow White wears dirty knickers.


PALM BEACH, Fla. – What if there were a presidential debate, and no one came?

The Republican Party is reportedly threatening to ban its White House candidates from televised debates if networks go ahead with plans to air movies celebrating the life of former first lady Hillary Clinton.

Breitbart.com reports that Republican National Committee Chair Reince Priebus sent stinging letters Monday to NBC and CNN, spelling out the threat.

GOP uncorks stunning strategy for prez race
But Rush Limbaugh says major threat doesn't go far enough
Published: 16 hours ago
JOE KOVACS

GOP uncorks stunning strategy for prez race
 
Other than a couple of photo ops with Obama, what has my fellow conservatives upset with Christie?

To eagle7_31: The word “upset” is misleading. It’s not as though Christie had a track record of conservatism then suddenly did something liberal.

My OP should have answered your question. If not try these threads:




Bottom line: The MSM likes him. If nothing else that is enough for conservatives to NOT like him.

Care to define what you mean by the "conservatives" who should not like Christie simply because he happens to be polling better than Hilary at the present moment?
 
Bottom line: The MSM likes him. If nothing else that is enough for conservatives to NOT like him.

Care to define what you mean by the "conservatives" who should not like Christie simply because he happens to be polling better than Hilary at the present moment?

To Derideo_Te: It has nothing to do with polling results. Take a course on reading comprehension.
 
Bottom line: The MSM likes him. If nothing else that is enough for conservatives to NOT like him.

Care to define what you mean by the "conservatives" who should not like Christie simply because he happens to be polling better than Hilary at the present moment?

To Derideo_Te: It has nothing to do with polling results. Take a course on reading comprehension.

In which case what does it have something to do with?
 
Sarah Palin hits a home run on some serious stuff. She slices and dices Chris Christie pretty good in the last minute of the video interview. I hope Karl Rove’s Republicans are paying attention. A conservative candidate is the only way they are going to beat the Democrat in 2016. That is a true conservative, not someone like Dole, McCain, and Romney who were big government guys covered with a very thin veneer of conservatism.

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Christie has in much in common with Reagan as a titmouse has with an Elk.

To Politico: Bob Barr agrees:

While many conservatives still may be wondering what went wrong with New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, for most of us, the handwriting has been on the wall for some time. He is a liberal masquerading as a conservative.

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There should be no room in the GOP for Christie’s nebulous, if not disingenuous, political games; and, it is time conservatives show him the door before his carefully self-nurtured image as the GOP “tough guy” -- able to take on all Democratic comers -- destroys any remaining semblance of the conservative GOP base first constructed by Reagan two generations ago. If Christie really wants to take on Hillary, let him do so in the arena far better suited for liberals and moderates like him – the Democrat Party.

It's Time Conservatives Show Christie the Door
Bob Barr | Aug 14, 2013

It's Time Conservatives Show Christie the Door - Bob Barr - Page 1
 
Other than a couple of photo ops with Obama, what has my fellow conservatives upset with Christie?

Your fellow conservative is a brainwashed idiot who can't think for himself.

the GOP's only chance is to find a moderate like Christie or McCain and for God sakes don't nominate an intellectual midget like Palin again.
 
Fox Manufactures New IRS Scandal Over Bush-Era Policy Change

Here they go again, another factually incorrect manufactured scandal by the unpatriotic network teaching its rubes to fear and hate the black guy.

Fox News is attempting to manufacture another Obama administration scandal by fearmongering about letters sent to small businesses asking them to explain discrepancies in revenue -- the result of a policy change made under the George W. Bush administration.

The August 15 edition of Fox & Friends reported that the Internal Revenue Service had sent letters to certain small businesses, asking them to explain why their revenue showed a disproportionately high number of credit and debit card transactions. Guest co-host Peter Johnson Jr. called the letters "unsettling" before playing a clip of Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) tying the story to the improper targeting of certain political groups by the IRS. While Johnson admitted that "it happened in the past," the show continued to fearmonger about the letters, asking, "Are there other illegal things that are going on? Chairman Issa and U.S. attorneys are looking at the IRS, and there's some inference and implication that there may be":
 
The media picking the Republican candidate in 2016 is bad enough, but I’m starting to see Karl Rove’s Republicans focusing on the presidential race instead of going after super majorities in both Houses of Congress. What the hell good does it do if somebody like Chris Christie gets the nomination. Win or lose conservatives will be no better off. Proof: Suppose John McCain or Mitt Romney would have won? At least the Chicago sewer rat opened a lot of eyes among independents, not to mention creating the Tea Parties.

Giving free national publicity to silly Hillary Clinton movies is not something conservatives should be doing. The media and the Democrat base will love any fairy tale told about Clinton. Conservatives do not have to watch the crap. In fact, based on nothing more than reading the things liberals are sure to say about Clinton’s lengthy campaign ads conservatives can have a ball pointing out that Snow White wears dirty knickers.


PALM BEACH, Fla. – What if there were a presidential debate, and no one came?

The Republican Party is reportedly threatening to ban its White House candidates from televised debates if networks go ahead with plans to air movies celebrating the life of former first lady Hillary Clinton.

Breitbart.com reports that Republican National Committee Chair Reince Priebus sent stinging letters Monday to NBC and CNN, spelling out the threat.

GOP uncorks stunning strategy for prez race
But Rush Limbaugh says major threat doesn't go far enough
Published: 16 hours ago
JOE KOVACS

GOP uncorks stunning strategy for prez race

Using the MSM as an excuse to try and hide the Republican primary debates from the general public is a kneejerk reaction to how much the 2012 debates hurt the GOP brand. Furthermore even if they are restricted to only FoxNews that won't prevent the talking heads on the networks from watching and commenting. More significantly it won't stop the "party of stupid" from ending up being shared across the internet either.

The GOP's problem is not the MSM, it is their wannabe candidates. Until Priebus finds a way to keep them from saying things that alienate independent voters attempts at censorship are a nonstarter in my opinion.
 
By today's measure - Christie is far more conservative than Reagan.

In any case, Christie's not making it past the Republican Primaries.

Chris Matthews postulated that Rand Paul will get the nod. At this point?

I agree with that.
 
By today's measure - Christie is far more conservative than Reagan.

In any case, Christie's not making it past the Republican Primaries.

Chris Matthews postulated that Rand Paul will get the nod. At this point?

I agree with that.

The conservatives will insist on someone like Paul otherwise they will either withhold their votes or nominate a 3rd party candidate in my opinion. If they do go that route they essentially hand the race to the dems on a platter.
 
Sarah Palin hits a home run on some serious stuff. She slices and dices Chris Christie pretty good in the last minute of the video interview. I hope Karl Rove’s Republicans are paying attention. A conservative candidate is the only way they are going to beat the Democrat in 2016. That is a true conservative, not someone like Dole, McCain, and Romney who were big government guys covered with a very thin veneer of conservatism.


Bill Kristol offers an interesting possibility for the Divine Sarah. Move the cursor to 2:40

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCW6hNPpAhI&feature=player_embedded]'This Week' Web Extra Bill Kristol Answers Viewer Questions From Facebook, Twitter - YouTube[/ame]​
 

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