Censorship, American-Style

Anybody remember Dr Laura? 30yrs and driven form the airways because some people were offended.

Dr. Laura Schlessinger apologizes after using racial epithet

Longtime talk show host Dr. Laura Schlessinger has posted an apology to her website after a conversation with a caller on Tuesday where she said in the N-word several times. “I articulated the N-word all the way out—more than one time,” Schlessinger said in the apology, which opened her show Wednesday morning. “And that was wrong. I’ll say it again—that was wrong.” Schlessinger claimed she was trying to make a philosophical point and lost her way. She continued in her apology: “I ended up, I’m sure, with many of you losing the point I was trying to make, because you were shocked by the fact that I said the word. I, myself, realized I had made a horrible mistake, and was so upset I could not finish the show. I pulled myself off the air at the end of the hour. I had to finish the hour, because 20 minutes of dead air doesn’t work. I am very sorry. And it just won’t happen again.”

On Tuesday’s show, Schlessinger repeated the N-word several times after a caller, identified as Jade, asked if the word was offensive. “Black guys say it all the time,” Schlessinger, who never directed the word at the caller, said. When the woman objected, Schlessinger commented: “Oh, then I guess you don’t watch HBO or listen to any black comedians.”

Dr. Laura Schlessinger apologizes after using racial epithet | News Briefs | EW.com
 
Although it was ok for Robert (sheets) Byrd he's a liberal

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Now, torte, why continue to pretend that there is not a censorship alive and well among the Liberal establishment?

Just the "Liberal establishment"?

Only a damned fool would think the UnConservatives don't shut down anyone who does not speak the party line.

Both sides think their shit doesn't stink, but nothing could be further from the truth. The stench of their puerile rhetoric reaches to the skies.
 
So, there was a thread about censorship, and arrests over anti-Semitic comments in Enland….and I pointed out that there exists a kind of censorship in this country with respect to certain protected groups….

…and it seems that I discomforted one of our pretend-law experts…who said:

“No, no reason for you to further exhibit your ignorance.

There are no statutes in the United States prohibiting the use of any word or term. You’re free to demonstrate your hatred of other races and religions with impunity.”


Interesting obfuscation,....

So…I thought it was worth examining....
...and found this:


1. “Earlier this week, the Chronicle of Higher Education, the trade paper for faculty members and administrators in universities, fired Naomi Schaefer Riley, a paid blogger for its website. Her crime? She had the courage to respond to a Chronicle story called “Black Studies: ‘Swaggering Into the Future,’” which stated that “young black-studies scholars . . . are less consumed than their predecessors with the need to validate the field or explain why they are pursuing doctorates in their discipline.”

Firing someone from a job for using language not in accordance with the workplace is not evidence of a statute in the United States prohibiting the use of any word or term. If you cuss up a blue streak at some jobs, you can be fired. If you make sexually suggestive comments to your co-workers, you can be fired. If a bloviator calls a woman with a sense of entitlement a slut on the air, he can lose sponsors.

That does not mean free speech is against the law or that censorship exists in America. You are free to demonstrate your bigotry or hatred, but if you are stupid enough to do it at work and lose your job, don't double down on your idiocy and say that is censorship in America...

"Firing someone from a job for using language..."

Assuming that your post is in any way related to the OP....

....would you be good enough to cite the "language" for which Ms. Riley was fired?


If you are not able, you would, it seems, be self-identified as one who hides bad behavior by pretending to misunderstand....as torte tried to do.

The "language" you refer to?

Hey, genius. Riley was not let go for “Black Studies: ‘Swaggering Into the Future'".

She was let go for The Most Persuasive Case for Eliminating Black Studies? Just Read the Dissertations.

Your puppet masters got it wrong.

A Note to Readers - Brainstorm - The Chronicle of Higher Education

When we published Naomi Schaefer Riley’s blog posting on Brainstorm last week (“The Most Persuasive Case for Eliminating Black Studies? Just Read the Dissertations”), several thousand of you spoke out in outrage and disappointment that The Chronicle had published an article that did not conform to the journalistic standards and civil tone that you expect from us.

We’ve heard you, and we have taken to heart what you said.

We now agree that Ms. Riley’s blog posting did not meet The Chronicle’s basic editorial standards for reporting and fairness in opinion articles. As a result, we have asked Ms. Riley to leave the Brainstorm blog.
 
Censoring Naomi Riley - John Fund - National Review Online


It seems that John Fund made my point for me….

It seems John Fund can't get his facts straight.

Not only that, he compares a person who lost their blogging rights with people who have experienced actual hardcore government censorship:

We have heard stories from brave journalists such as Ecuador’s Nicolas Perez and Kosovo’s Jeta Xharra of efforts to silence them for expressing views unpopular with officials or special interests. So it was strange to be here and read that one of my friends and former journalistic colleagues back home in the U.S. has been fired merely for speaking her mind.

Perez is a newspaper publisher who was sued by Ecuador's President. He has been granted political asylum by Panama.

Jeta Xharra was investigating judicial corruption in Bosnia when some of her news crew were beat up by government thugs.

Riley lost her blog page on a leftie web site for not spouting the leftie elitist line.

Overdramatize much, Fund?
 
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So, there was a thread about censorship, and arrests over anti-Semitic comments in Enland….and I pointed out that there exists a kind of censorship in this country with respect to certain protected groups….

Earlier this week, the Chronicle of Higher Education, the trade paper for faculty members and administrators in universities, fired Naomi Schaefer Riley, a paid blogger for its website.


Apples and oranges, ya know.


Her crime?

Please cite the Federal (or state) statute relevant to your example that is comparable to the law in Britain which resulted in those arrests. TIA
 
So, there was a thread about censorship, and arrests over anti-Semitic comments in Enland….and I pointed out that there exists a kind of censorship in this country with respect to certain protected groups….

…and it seems that I discomforted one of our pretend-law experts…who said:

“No, no reason for you to further exhibit your ignorance.

There are no statutes in the United States prohibiting the use of any word or term. You’re free to demonstrate your hatred of other races and religions with impunity.”

Interesting obfuscation,....

So…I thought it was worth examining....
...and found this:


1. “Earlier this week, the Chronicle of Higher Education, the trade paper for faculty members and administrators in universities, fired Naomi Schaefer Riley, a paid blogger for its website. Her crime? She had the courage to respond to a Chronicle story called “Black Studies: ‘Swaggering Into the Future,’” which stated that “young black-studies scholars . . . are less consumed than their predecessors with the need to validate the field or explain why they are pursuing doctorates in their discipline.”


2. The article used five Ph.D. candidates as examples of those “rewriting the history of race.” Riley looked at the subject areas of the five proposed dissertations and concluded that they were “obscure at best . . . a collection of left-wing victimization claptrap at worst.”

a. It seems that her crime was that she dared argue that black studies departments should be eliminated, citing the silliness of a number of the dissertations by some of the disciplines most lauded students.

b. Riley tore apart another essay that blamed the subprime housing crash on a conspirascy by white politicians, noting that ‘those millions of white people who went into foreclosure were just collateral damage, I guess.”



3. Many academics I know agree that black-studies programs are often slipshod, academically non-rigorous, and repositories for “grievance” politics. But they won’t say so publicly, for fear of being branded as “racists.” Naomi Riley had the courage to state the obvious.

4. When 6,500 politically correct academics signed a petition demanding that she be fired, the editor of the Chronicle caved.


5. A couple of speakers noted how surprising it is that political correctness in academia is now shutting off debate in the U.S., the country where academics supposedly prize vigorous discussion and vigilantly guard against any sign of McCarthyism.



6. Nick Cohen is an atheist and former leftist who writes for the Observer and Guardiannewspapers in Britain… examines the new forms of censorship that are emerging in the 21st century….surrounding taboo subjects with a bodyguard of politically correct humbug has a profound effect on liberalism. He noted that “censorship is at its most effective when no one admits that it exists.

7. While Cohen’s warning was directed at those who stifle debate on Muslim radicalism in Europe and refuse to recognize the failure of officially imposed multiculturalism, he lost no time in telling me how appalled he was at the news of Riley’s firing. “These people calling for her head are the same ones who would scream McCarthyism if someone demanded that academics who defend Iran, excuse terrorism, or accept support from dubious Middle East regimes be called to account,”…

a. James Kirchick, a contributing editor to The New Republic :“This is precisely why I am no longer on the left. It is disturbing to see such bullying.”

b. …academics have demanded tenure, ostensibly not to secure the effectively lifetime employment it creates but to give them the freedom to voice unpopular opinions and conduct research that challenges conventional thinking.



8. Few, if any, of her critics actually tried to refute her criticisms of black-studies dissertations. Instead, they sought to shut her up, and in so doing, they sent yet another message that some liberals today have become at least as intolerant of debate as any of the fundamentalists and traditionalists they abhor.

9. After Riley’s firing, I have no doubt there will be fewer people brave enough to challenge that censorship
Censoring Naomi Riley - John Fund - National Review Online


It seems that John Fund made my point for me….

How much of the five thesis did she read to make her determination?
 
Anybody remember Dr Laura? 30yrs and driven form the airways because some people were offended.

Dr. Laura Schlessinger apologizes after using racial epithet

Longtime talk show host Dr. Laura Schlessinger has posted an apology to her website after a conversation with a caller on Tuesday where she said in the N-word several times. “I articulated the N-word all the way out—more than one time,” Schlessinger said in the apology, which opened her show Wednesday morning. “And that was wrong. I’ll say it again—that was wrong.” Schlessinger claimed she was trying to make a philosophical point and lost her way. She continued in her apology: “I ended up, I’m sure, with many of you losing the point I was trying to make, because you were shocked by the fact that I said the word. I, myself, realized I had made a horrible mistake, and was so upset I could not finish the show. I pulled myself off the air at the end of the hour. I had to finish the hour, because 20 minutes of dead air doesn’t work. I am very sorry. And it just won’t happen again.”

On Tuesday’s show, Schlessinger repeated the N-word several times after a caller, identified as Jade, asked if the word was offensive. “Black guys say it all the time,” Schlessinger, who never directed the word at the caller, said. When the woman objected, Schlessinger commented: “Oh, then I guess you don’t watch HBO or listen to any black comedians.”

Dr. Laura Schlessinger apologizes after using racial epithet | News Briefs | EW.com

Yes, that was absolutely awesome when that homophobic prude phony got fired from her job!

Although frankly, she should have been fired a lot earlier than this nonsense.

actually, she had been in decline for a long time before this. I didn't even know she was still on the air anywhere.
 
Interesting that some of Naomi Riley's critics branded her as a racist. Her husband is black.

That doesn't stop them from claiming you're a racist. Just actually marrying a person of another race doesn't mean you don't hate their race. Everyone knows that all conservatives hate minorities, women, Gays, and every other large segment of the electorate that the left feels they can manipulate into hating Republicans so they can win elections.

Living with someone of another race also doesn't make you knowledgeable on what they are like. Nobody from another race ever tells you what the real deal is, tells you what their childhood and their upbringing was like, tells you why they and others in their race act the way they do. And nobody of another race that you spent the last 37 years with ever tells you what others of her race has been telling her (because they figure that they're talking to someone from their own race).....telling her things they'd never tell to a white person.

It just doesn't happen........:cool:
 
Ah this old tale of free speech and censorship. Once again PC doesn't really get the situation.
See its not a matter of free speech. Very rarely do you come across people who want to ban words. Like of say sarah palin who wants to ban the retarded,but that wont be mentioned in the op as actual censorship.
see for the most part say what you want,but don't complain when actions are taken against you.
You don't actually have free speech with private companies.

The left might defend people but they don't sit there and say not to boycott. Of course both sides play the same card when these things happen,but hey we wont mention that either.

Sad really that such a simple topic can turn into poo by a moron with a keyboard.

Yeah, Sarah Palin hates her own son so much she wants to ban them.:cuckoo:




The cause of all of this bickering is simply the folks that control the debate in this country.


Nothing becomes a nationwide debate unless the media decides it should be.​
Obama and company says "Blah....blah...blah" and his media starts saying "Blah...blah...blah...blah...blah" taking it even farther.

Then conservatives say "Well......all of that blah....blah.....blah is daft as a broom-handle.....so why should we even be talking about blah....blah.....blah".


Then the media says "You're a bunch of bigots because you don't think blah...blah....blah is an important issue".

Meanwhile Obama is getting away with whatever the hell he's doing and we can't focus on it because everyone in the media and the left wants to talk about blah....blah...blah....."

Now what were you saying about Sarah Palin wanting to ban retards?
 
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Interesting that some of Naomi Riley's critics branded her as a racist. Her husband is black.

That doesn't stop them from claiming you're a racist. Just actually marrying a person of another race doesn't mean you don't hate their race. Everyone knows that all conservatives hate minorities, women, Gays, and every other large segment of the electorate that the left feels they can manipulate into hating Republicans so they can win elections.

Living with someone of another race also doesn't make you knowledgeable on what they are like. Nobody from another race ever tells you what the real deal is, tells you what their childhood and their upbringing was like, tells you why they and others in their race act the way they do. And nobody of another race that you spent the last 37 years with ever tells you what others of her race has been telling her (because they figure that they're talking to someone from their own race).....telling her things they'd never tell to a white person.

It just doesn't happen........:cool:

It wasn't an issue of whether she is racist or not.

People who took a certain major were offended by her characterization of their major.

And you know what, I've seen people fired for a lot less.

I saw a woman fired because she said something bad about the company on her resume, and then posted it on Craig's List. Didn't matter what she said was absolutely true, it made them look bad. (Incidently, you should never say anything bad about your last company on a resume, or ever post anything on Craig's List.)

I just can't get worked up about this woman. I see a lot of people get fired all the time who are a lot more sympathetic.
 
Interesting that some of Naomi Riley's critics branded her as a racist. Her husband is black.

That doesn't stop them from claiming you're a racist. Just actually marrying a person of another race doesn't mean you don't hate their race. Everyone knows that all conservatives hate minorities, women, Gays, and every other large segment of the electorate that the left feels they can manipulate into hating Republicans so they can win elections.

Living with someone of another race also doesn't make you knowledgeable on what they are like. Nobody from another race ever tells you what the real deal is, tells you what their childhood and their upbringing was like, tells you why they and others in their race act the way they do. And nobody of another race that you spent the last 37 years with ever tells you what others of her race has been telling her (because they figure that they're talking to someone from their own race).....telling her things they'd never tell to a white person.

It just doesn't happen........:cool:

It wasn't an issue of whether she is racist or not.

People who took a certain major were offended by her characterization of their major.

And you know what, I've seen people fired for a lot less.

I saw a woman fired because she said something bad about the company on her resume, and then posted it on Craig's List. Didn't matter what she said was absolutely true, it made them look bad. (Incidently, you should never say anything bad about your last company on a resume, or ever post anything on Craig's List.)

I just can't get worked up about this woman. I see a lot of people get fired all the time who are a lot more sympathetic.

No offense, but it seems that the left panders to these folks and allows them to do things that the unprotected cannot get away with.

Imagine having classes on white studies. Nobody has legitimized this so it just doesn't happen, and pointing out the absurdity of "Black Studies" isn't racist. It's just common-sense, something political-correctness tends to ignore.
 
Imagine having classes on white studies. Nobody has legitimized this so it just doesn't happen, and pointing out the absurdity of "Black Studies" isn't racist. It's just common-sense, something political-correctness tends to ignore.


The PC police will continue to use it as long as it's effective, and it still is. At some point, those of us who are not PC-paralyzed will have to put our foot down and fight back. Until then, the PC police will continue to control the language and many issues.


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No offense, but it seems that the left panders to these folks and allows them to do things that the unprotected cannot get away with.

Imagine having classes on white studies. Nobody has legitimized this so it just doesn't happen, and pointing out the absurdity of "Black Studies" isn't racist. It's just common-sense, something political-correctness tends to ignore.

Oh, hey, personally I think Black Studies and Women Studies and all the other Greivence Studies majors are academic horseshit, personally.

So what? Academia has always been sort of a liberal clubhouse. It's like going to a strip joint and complaining about the nudity and the drinking.

It doesn't take away from the fact that this journal had a right to terminate an employee as long as she didn't have a contract.

Again, you folks on the right are the ones who think an employer should be able to fire an employee at any time for any reason without any recourse.

So why are you complaining when someone does that again?

Toodles, kiddies, I'm off to work.
 
No offense, but it seems that the left panders to these folks and allows them to do things that the unprotected cannot get away with.

Imagine having classes on white studies. Nobody has legitimized this so it just doesn't happen, and pointing out the absurdity of "Black Studies" isn't racist. It's just common-sense, something political-correctness tends to ignore.

Oh, hey, personally I think Black Studies and Women Studies and all the other Greivence Studies majors are academic horseshit, personally.

So what? Academia has always been sort of a liberal clubhouse. It's like going to a strip joint and complaining about the nudity and the drinking.

It doesn't take away from the fact that this journal had a right to terminate an employee as long as she didn't have a contract.

Again, you folks on the right are the ones who think an employer should be able to fire an employee at any time for any reason without any recourse.

So why are you complaining when someone does that again?

Toodles, kiddies, I'm off to work.

Actually we don't believe that, but that doesn't stop the left from lying and saying we do.
 
Censorship from a private entity is perfectly allowable. Their newspaper....their newspaper, their rules. You are free to start your own newspaper or blog to your hearts content
 

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