Carriers of internet forums are similar to other types of public utility enterprises.

[surada]

Neither is FB or X or any other social media company.

What is your point?

Exactly. They are privately held and don't owe you a venue.

 

[surada]

The FBI does that for the NYTimes

Of course the NYT has the right to censor or publish whatever they choose. They aren't a public utility. If you don't like it, you can vote with your feet. Trumpers are as pathetically needy as Trump himself.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Exactly. They are privately held and don't owe you a venue.

Only if they maintain separation from the government.
It is irrefutable, and proved openly in Congressional investigations that both FaceBook and especially the old Twitter used their platform to subvert U.S. elections and censor political information that they didn't support.
In particular Twitter worked DIRECTLY with the Biden administration, the FBI and even HSA to censor/shadow ban and "vote down" simple pro conservative content and members.
It is appropriate to say that the old Twitter website was a direct arm of a political party.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Of course the NYT has the right to censor or publish whatever they choose. They aren't a public utility. If you don't like it, you can vote with your feet. Trumpers are as pathetically needy as Trump himself.

I cancelled my subscription to the Times in 1985, so yeah I know that

 

[Dadoalex]

Carriers of internet forums are similar to other types of public utility enterprises.

I agree with the state of Texas's position, tech companies are (to a great extent similar to utilities, and OUR government should require they equally grant access to all factions; but the internet carried upon public airways is under the jurisdiction of the Federal Communications Commission, (FCC) rather than a state's government. Texas should not be empowered to censor or intervene within internet discussions between Texans and myself, (and of course the 1stamendment applies to such discussions), Respectfully, Supposn

You'll have to define what you mean by "carrier"

In context "carrier" means ATT, Spectrum, Verizon and the like and these carriers are already regulated.
If you include companies like FB, Twitter, and USMB in your definition of carrier then your definition differs greatly from the regulators.

Content providers (FB et al) are protected by the 1st and their content cannot b regulated outside certain arenas (porn, classified information, etc.) Even then, the government cannot prohibit publication of such materials, only seek to limit accessibility and punish the act afterward.

Personally I'd love to see Congress repeal Section 230 then watch FB, Twitter, and yes, this craphole, clean up or be gone.

 

[Dadoalex]

^ this! Facebook should NOT be allowed to censor posts any more than the phone company can censor phone calls

FB has both the right and the responsibility.

 

[Dadoalex]

stupid comparison. nobody can hear your phone calls, everyone can see what is posted on FB. Why should a private entity not be able to control what is put on its site?

Do you disagree with the rules on this forum? Should the USMB not be able to control what is posted, and left for everyone to see?

Oh if only it would.

 

[Dadoalex]

So if you send a business proposal via Fed Ex, Fed Ex becomes the owner??

irrelevant.
non sequitor

 

[Dadoalex]

Unlike Social Media, it's a political discussion Board so they can monitor content.

uhhhh
THIS IS SOCIAL MEDIA

 

[Dadoalex]

I agree, but that is not what this is about, this is about if the USMB or FB or X or MySpace have the right to control what is posted on their sites.

They have
The right
The social obligation
and
The Fiduciary obligation

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Oh if only it would.

So go to Democrat Underground where no outside thought are allowed

 

[CrusaderFrank]

irrelevant.
non sequitor

They get your message from point A to point B, just like social media right?

 

[candycorn]

Carriers of internet forums are similar to other types of public utility enterprises.

I agree with the state of Texas's position, tech companies are (to a great extent similar to utilities, and OUR government should require they equally grant access to all factions; but the internet carried upon public airways is under the jurisdiction of the Federal Communications Commission, (FCC) rather than a state's government. Texas should not be empowered to censor or intervene within internet discussions between Texans and myself, (and of course the 1stamendment applies to such discussions), Respectfully, Supposn

Ridiculous. Utilities are vital. Internet forums are not

 

[Dadoalex]

So go to Democrat Underground where no outside thought are allowed

Just what I mean

 

[surada]

Only if they maintain separation from the government.
It is irrefutable, and proved openly in Congressional investigations that both FaceBook and especially the old Twitter used their platform to subvert U.S. elections and censor political information that they didn't support.
In particular Twitter worked DIRECTLY with the Biden administration, the FBI and even HSA to censor/shadow ban and "vote down" simple pro conservative content and members.
It is appropriate to say that the old Twitter website was a direct arm of a political party.

They aren't public utilities. They are privately held and can support whomever they like.

 

[surada]

So go to Democrat Underground where no outside thought are allowed

That's their prerogative.

 

[Not That Guy]

ISP's and social media should be treated as utilities. Since most of them receive tax payer money in some way. Plus it was US Tax payers that built and support the internet for the planet.

However forums, should not be treated as a utility, as most forums have an over all theme or topic, not really open to the public - in many cases. Vs facebook or twitter where you can consume a large amount of information quickly, a forum isnt really designed for that,

 

[iamwhatiseem]

They aren't public utilities. They are privately held and can support whomever they like.

That is changing, and needs to change.
It is a form of tyranny and fascism to have a single entity that is able to control and manipulate information that 10s of millions of people see.
Unless you like to be controlled by elitist.

 

[Supposn]

HarpyEagle, CrusaderFrank, Surada, IamwhatIseem, Dadoalex, Candycorn, Not That Guy, and any other future contributors to this thread, USMessageBoard, and other internet forums are not browsers. Thus, as I posted on March 1, 2024, they're somewhat dissimilar to public utility enterprises. You guys are all beating up on a dead horse.
(Although, if investors directly owned or otherwise controlled both an internet browser and a forum, they should, and I assume they would be prohibited from favoring their forum over other of their browser's clients). Respectfully Supposn

 

[Harpy Eagle]

They get your message from point A to point B, just like social media right?

do they let everyone that wants to do so read your message while getting it from point a to point b?