Capitalism or Communism? Is communism really that horrible?

[JakeStarkey]

daveman and Ceclie1200 spill their poision but nothing worthy.

They are ultra radical wanks out of the mainstream.

 

[Uncensored2008]

daveman and Ceclie1200 spill their poision but nothing worthy.

They are ultra radical wanks out of the mainstream.

Jakematters idea of "mainstream:" Democratic Underground

Say Fakey, you sure are fucking retarded...

 

[JakeStarkey]

#961 for Uncensored, a real wank.

 

[daveman]

daveman and Ceclie1200 spill their poision but nothing worthy.

They are ultra radical wanks out of the mainstream.

Oh, DO shut up, you stupid prog.

 

[JakeStarkey]

daveman and Ceclie1200 spill their poision but nothing worthy.

They are ultra radical wanks out of the mainstream.

Oh, DO shut up, you stupid prog.

daveman wanks right along.

 

[Uncensored2008]

daveman wanks right along.

Jakematters, you're a worthless fucking troll. You spew shit from ThinkProgress and DailyKOS, without the capacity to actually think.

You're damned near del in your level of worthless shitiage...

 

[JakeStarkey]

Uncensored wanks right along, pleasuring his male customers.

 

[Unkotare]

daveman wanks right along.

Jakematters, you're a worthless fucking troll. You spew shit from ThinkProgress and DailyKOS, without the capacity to actually think.

You're damned near del in your level of worthless shitiage...

And that's about as bad as it gets.

 

[Uncensored2008]

daveman wanks right along.

Jakematters, you're a worthless fucking troll. You spew shit from ThinkProgress and DailyKOS, without the capacity to actually think.

You're damned near del in your level of worthless shitiage...

And that's about as bad as it gets.

It's SO bad, that I had to invent a new word to describe it!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Communists are The Ultimate Capitalists. Think about it. By eliminating any and all would be capitalists, the communists get to decide what is bought and sold and for how much. THOSE THAT RULED the Soviet Union, Cuba, and North Korea set the rules, set the wages, and traded freely. How could communists possibly have a Nation State exist that encourages all of its citizens to enjoy the same??

except the idea wasn't to trade freely, but rather to give welfare to each according to his needs.

 

[JakeStarkey]

daveman wanks right along.

Jakematters, you're a worthless fucking troll. You spew shit from ThinkProgress and DailyKOS, without the capacity to actually think. You're damned near del in your level of worthless shitiage...

And that's about as bad as it gets.

daveman, Uncensored, and Unkotare are the moral equivalent of after birth. Tis what tis.

 

[Indofred]

Ask Cubans.

We don't need to go there; just read the London press.

Capitalism or Communism? Is communism really that horrible?

I know this is an old thread but communism and its total impossibility came to mind when I read this ....

BBC News - London 'slavery' case women met 'in collective'

The story is about those London slaves, an interesting and odd tale, but then I read,

In a statement, Cdr Steve Rodhouse of the Metropolitan Police, said: "We believe that two of the victims met the male suspect in London through a shared political ideology, and that they lived together at an address that you could effectively call a 'collective'.

It turns out they were playing at a micro communist state and, as always happens with communism, it fell apart and someone ended up being the boss.
In this case, only three people ended up being enslaved by the state and no one seems to have been murdered.
Small numbers for communism but it proves the point; communism is an unworkable system because, no matter how communist they claim to be, there are always people who are stronger than others and they'll always come out on top.

 

[Rebelitarian]

Going into this i would like to say that i am more on the capitalist end of the spectrum. Though going into this i am generally capitalist knowing the pros and cons of them both may change your own mind. Even though communism was originally a social thing it has also found itself as a government with one man in control. So lets try and picture it with a U.S or near that style democracy.
In essence capitalism is smaller government and communism is huge government. Now before your western instincts tell you to instantly choose capitalism think of the benefits of huge government control in your life.
In communism ideal/original communism everyone is equal. Though it almost never happens that a nation goes completely on the guidelines of a known social policy. Everyone is equal and therefore have the same things to live on and lean on their whole lives. Everyone once again must be equal in society and as a result you lose the right to earn. So in exchange for a lifetime safety net given by the government you give up the ability to earn your way up the ladder. This is because only one social class exist and that is common working class. So you have nothing to look foward to besides that life forever.
It is up to you to decide whether that is a bad or a good thing for you. As a result of this innovation potential is silenced. So is a lifelong safety net really worth losing earning rights and silencing so much potential for innovation?
Now knowing the main gains and losses of communism lets talk about capitalism.
Essentially capitalism is the exact opposite of communism in its original and purest form. In ideal/original capitalism they're is pretty much no government interference in your life. Of course they still have laws as any other nation but if you follow them you are left alone for all of your life. Capitalism is that sweet freedom you taste, love and learn about. In ideal capitalism you can go out and earn it all. You can dream big and dream about the journey there. You can be a bigshot nobody will ever forget. But with that ability to dream big and earn it all you lose that security you had with communism. And if someone earns too much capital they can decide to make everyone else work for dirt cheap money if they choose. They can dominate or without a law from it a monopoly can occur. And if you fail you have nothing to fall back on unless a generous citizen with decent capital decides to help you up.
So is the freedom of capitalism worth the possibility of ending up with nothing?
In conclusion i would like to share my opinion. I belive the risk involved with capitalism is worth the big dreams and potential unlocked that comes with it. People have bigger things to live for and more fuel to live on. Because "the dream" actually exist. In addition to the fact that the world/nation could innovate so much faster.
I would like for you to build an opinion of your own and for you to give me your feedback and for you to discuss amongst youselves.

It is a balancing act.

Communism----Socialism-------Mixed-Capitalism---------Unfettered Capitalism-----Kleptocracy.

Also the evils of central banking need to be factored in and kept out of any economic system.

Prison Planet.com » 41 Facts About The History Of Central Banks In The United States That Our Children Are No Longer Taught In School

So I would say a libertarian brand of mixed capitalism and de-centralized banking.

 

[regent]

Can anyone name the nations that presently practice Marxian communism or have practiced it in the past? Can anyone name the nations that presently practice pure capitalism?

 

[Desperado]

Capitalism or Communism? Is communism really that horrible?

Yes it is......
Communism is an epic failure. Every where it has been tried if has failed.
The say that "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results,
Seems that could be of Communism too or at least the people pushing for it here. One last this to
consider is the old adage "The Only Good Commie is one that is Dead."

 

[Indofred]

Can anyone name the nations that presently practice Marxian communism or have practiced it in the past? Can anyone name the nations that presently practice pure capitalism?

Impossible, as all that have attempted the stupidity of any form of communism have failed, and always will.
Capitalism works in lots of countries but is commonly watered down a little to keep the prols in line......or at least, they think so.

 

[Vox]

In conclusion i would like to share my opinion. I belive the risk involved with capitalism is worth the big dreams and potential unlocked that comes with it. People have bigger things to live for and more fuel to live on. Because "the dream" actually exist. In addition to the fact that the world/nation could innovate so much faster.
I would like for you to build an opinion of your own and for you to give me your feedback and for you to discuss amongst youselves.

If you are so fond of communism - submit you American passport and citizenship and apply for political asylum in the North Korea.

Or at least Cuba.
Although neither is a communism, just pure socialism, or the first stage of communism.

 

[Vox]

Can anyone name the nations that presently practice Marxian communism or have practiced it in the past?

North Korea, Cuba, USSR, all the Eastern Bloc countries, Vietnam, China, the whole bunch in Africa ( Angola comes to mind as the first)

 

[regent]

In conclusion i would like to share my opinion. I belive the risk involved with capitalism is worth the big dreams and potential unlocked that comes with it. People have bigger things to live for and more fuel to live on. Because "the dream" actually exist. In addition to the fact that the world/nation could innovate so much faster.
I would like for you to build an opinion of your own and for you to give me your feedback and for you to discuss amongst youselves.

If you are so fond of communism - submit you American passport and citizenship and apply for political asylum in the North Korea.

Or at least Cuba.
Although neither is a communism, just pure socialism, or the first stage of communism.

Who told you the first stage of communism is socialism, and did you believe the teller?

 

[thanatos144]

In conclusion i would like to share my opinion. I belive the risk involved with capitalism is worth the big dreams and potential unlocked that comes with it. People have bigger things to live for and more fuel to live on. Because "the dream" actually exist. In addition to the fact that the world/nation could innovate so much faster.
I would like for you to build an opinion of your own and for you to give me your feedback and for you to discuss amongst youselves.

If you are so fond of communism - submit you American passport and citizenship and apply for political asylum in the North Korea.

Or at least Cuba.
Although neither is a communism, just pure socialism, or the first stage of communism.

Who told you the first stage of communism is socialism, and did you believe the teller?

Socialism is communism

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