Capitalism or Communism? Is communism really that horrible?

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    Going into this i would like to say that i am more on the capitalist end of the spectrum. Though going into this i am generally capitalist knowing the pros and cons of them both may change your own mind. Even though communism was originally a social thing it has also found itself as a government with one man in control. So lets try and picture it with a U.S or near that style democracy.
    In essence capitalism is smaller government and communism is huge government. Now before your western instincts tell you to instantly choose capitalism think of the benefits of huge government control in your life.
    In communism ideal/original communism everyone is equal. Though it almost never happens that a nation goes completely on the guidelines of a known social policy. Everyone is equal and therefore have the same things to live on and lean on their whole lives. Everyone once again must be equal in society and as a result you lose the right to earn. So in exchange for a lifetime safety net given by the government you give up the ability to earn your way up the ladder. This is because only one social class exist and that is common working class. So you have nothing to look foward to besides that life forever.
    It is up to you to decide whether that is a bad or a good thing for you. As a result of this innovation potential is silenced. So is a lifelong safety net really worth losing earning rights and silencing so much potential for innovation?
    Now knowing the main gains and losses of communism lets talk about capitalism.
    Essentially capitalism is the exact opposite of communism in its original and purest form. In ideal/original capitalism they're is pretty much no government interference in your life. Of course they still have laws as any other nation but if you follow them you are left alone for all of your life. Capitalism is that sweet freedom you taste, love and learn about. In ideal capitalism you can go out and earn it all. You can dream big and dream about the journey there. You can be a bigshot nobody will ever forget. But with that ability to dream big and earn it all you lose that security you had with communism. And if someone earns too much capital they can decide to make everyone else work for dirt cheap money if they choose. They can dominate or without a law from it a monopoly can occur. And if you fail you have nothing to fall back on unless a generous citizen with decent capital decides to help you up.
    So is the freedom of capitalism worth the possibility of ending up with nothing?
    In conclusion i would like to share my opinion. I belive the risk involved with capitalism is worth the big dreams and potential unlocked that comes with it. People have bigger things to live for and more fuel to live on. Because "the dream" actually exist. In addition to the fact that the world/nation could innovate so much faster.
    I would like for you to build an opinion of your own and for you to give me your feedback and for you to discuss amongst youselves.
     
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    Ask Cubans.
     
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    Yea, that communist thing works real well.... everyone's equal.

    :Lmao:

    I've seen some seriously dumb shit on this board... but, that is definitely a contender for 'stupid that makes you say 'WTF'.
     
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    Ideal communism, Most or all communism is corrupted. And i dont belive ideal capitalism exist either.
     
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    By "ideal" i mean original. Of course better versions of both of the policy either exist or can be created.
     
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    Ask the victims of Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Kim Il-Sung, Kim Jong-Il, Pol Pot, Castro etc that question...

    Yes, communism is really that horrible...
     
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    Whoops you forgot about Hitler, he was such a good Communist. :)
     
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    The Occupiers should be careful for that of which they wish.

    If America collapses, they may just get the communism of Lefty's wet dreams!
     
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    For communism to even be quasi successful would require total obedience and dictation of every aspect of life..

    Communism fails for a reason...

    I suppose the biggest reasons are A) people dont like being treated like prisoners and B) humans do a lousy job planning and dictating economies..
     
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