CDZ Can someone please describe White Privilege in specific terms?

[jwoodie]

It seems to me to be little more than having two parents in the home who place some value on education. Interestingly, this "privilege" is also enjoyed by most Asian-Americans...

 

[ricechickie]

The system in which a white teacher is more likely to view a black student as a threat, while identifying with the white student, and result in harsher punishments for the same kinds of misbehavior.

That's one example. It is not a 100% occurrence. There are too many other factors at work that means that it's practically impossible to quantify. But it exists, like the other prejudices in our world.

 

[Zoom-boing]

The system in which a white teacher is more likely to view a black student as a threat, while identifying with the white student, and result in harsher punishments for the same kinds of misbehavior.

That's one example. It is not a 100% occurrence. There are too many other factors at work that means that it's practically impossible to quantify. But it exists, like the other prejudices in our world.

So a black teacher who is more likely to view a white student as a threat, while identifying with the black student, is black privilege?

 

[JoeMoma]

The system in which a white teacher is more likely to view a black student as a threat, while identifying with the white student, and result in harsher punishments for the same kinds of misbehavior.

That's one example. It is not a 100% occurrence. There are too many other factors at work that means that it's practically impossible to quantify. But it exists, like the other prejudices in our world.

Many black students (not all, maybe not even most) use the race card as an excuse for being disruptive in class.

 

[JoeMoma]

The system in which a white teacher is more likely to view a black student as a threat, while identifying with the white student, and result in harsher punishments for the same kinds of misbehavior.

That's one example. It is not a 100% occurrence. There are too many other factors at work that means that it's practically impossible to quantify. But it exists, like the other prejudices in our world.

Many black students (not all, maybe not even most) use the race card as an excuse for being disruptive in class.

And since teachers don't want to be labeled as racist, this black student gets a little more leeway.

 

[MrShangles]

The system in which a white teacher is more likely to view a black student as a threat, while identifying with the white student, and result in harsher punishments for the same kinds of misbehavior.

That's one example. It is not a 100% occurrence. There are too many other factors at work that means that it's practically impossible to quantify. But it exists, like the other prejudices in our world.

What if it's a black teacher, I've seen them favor black students, is that because of slavery or is that white privileged too?


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[JoeMoma]

Isn't the concept of "White Privilege" a form of racial profiling?

 

[ricechickie]

When a white employer is more likely to employ a white person because they identify with them and feel they will "fit in" better, that is white privilege. Given that there are more white employers than black, white people are more likely to benefit from this preference. From a percentages standpoint, it is a privilege.

Again, there are lots of other factors in play, so it is not a 100% occurrence.

Think of it as a deck of cards. You get a deck with 6 aces instead of 4. You are more likely to get an ace, but it doesn't mean you will get an ace every time. Still, you would choose the deck with more aces.

 

[ricechickie]

The system in which a white teacher is more likely to view a black student as a threat, while identifying with the white student, and result in harsher punishments for the same kinds of misbehavior.

That's one example. It is not a 100% occurrence. There are too many other factors at work that means that it's practically impossible to quantify. But it exists, like the other prejudices in our world.

So a black teacher who is more likely to view a white student as a threat, while identifying with the black student, is black privilege?

Yeah. But there are more white teachers than black. The chances of benefitting from black privilege (or preferential treatment) are considerably less.

 

[ricechickie]

The system in which a white teacher is more likely to view a black student as a threat, while identifying with the white student, and result in harsher punishments for the same kinds of misbehavior.

That's one example. It is not a 100% occurrence. There are too many other factors at work that means that it's practically impossible to quantify. But it exists, like the other prejudices in our world.

Many black students (not all, maybe not even most) use the race card as an excuse for being disruptive in class.

Kids don't think that far ahead. They might accuse racism to mitigate punishment after the fact.

 

[ricechickie]

The system in which a white teacher is more likely to view a black student as a threat, while identifying with the white student, and result in harsher punishments for the same kinds of misbehavior.

That's one example. It is not a 100% occurrence. There are too many other factors at work that means that it's practically impossible to quantify. But it exists, like the other prejudices in our world.

Many black students (not all, maybe not even most) use the race card as an excuse for being disruptive in class.

And since teachers don't want to be labeled as racist, this black student gets a little more leeway.

Only they don't get more leeway. It has been quantified that black students get suspended and expelled more often than white students.

 

[ricechickie]

The system in which a white teacher is more likely to view a black student as a threat, while identifying with the white student, and result in harsher punishments for the same kinds of misbehavior.

That's one example. It is not a 100% occurrence. There are too many other factors at work that means that it's practically impossible to quantify. But it exists, like the other prejudices in our world.

What if it's a black teacher, I've seen them favor black students, is that because of slavery or is that white privileged too?


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It's because of neither of those things.

 

[ricechickie]

Isn't the concept of "White Privilege" a form of racial profiling?

Based on what?

 

[JoeMoma]

The system in which a white teacher is more likely to view a black student as a threat, while identifying with the white student, and result in harsher punishments for the same kinds of misbehavior.

That's one example. It is not a 100% occurrence. There are too many other factors at work that means that it's practically impossible to quantify. But it exists, like the other prejudices in our world.

Many black students (not all, maybe not even most) use the race card as an excuse for being disruptive in class.

Kids don't think that far ahead. They might accuse racism to mitigate punishment after the fact.

Yes they do. But even if you are right that they don't, the effect is the same even if it's after the fact.

 

[ricechickie]

The system in which a white teacher is more likely to view a black student as a threat, while identifying with the white student, and result in harsher punishments for the same kinds of misbehavior.

That's one example. It is not a 100% occurrence. There are too many other factors at work that means that it's practically impossible to quantify. But it exists, like the other prejudices in our world.

Many black students (not all, maybe not even most) use the race card as an excuse for being disruptive in class.

Kids don't think that far ahead. They might accuse racism to mitigate punishment after the fact.

Yes they do. But even if you are right that they don't, the effect is the same even if it's after the fact.

So do you also accept that white privilege in the classroom exists, and that sometimes the accusation of racism is justified, when white students get less or no punishment for the same misbehavior that gets black students harsher punishment?

Furthermore, if students think so far ahead, do you think that white students figure in their white privilege when planning what they can get away with?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

White privilege is a recent false construct created by white Democrats as a media and university-driven mind trick to aid in convincing the descendants of the victims of their past Jim Crow laws, support for slavery and general abuse of the black community that those atrocities were actually the work of white conservatives, and thereby edging that voting bloc to their side.

Given the time to do it, they will even have history show that it was actually Stephen Douglas who freed the slaves.

 

[JoeMoma]

The system in which a white teacher is more likely to view a black student as a threat, while identifying with the white student, and result in harsher punishments for the same kinds of misbehavior.

That's one example. It is not a 100% occurrence. There are too many other factors at work that means that it's practically impossible to quantify. But it exists, like the other prejudices in our world.

Many black students (not all, maybe not even most) use the race card as an excuse for being disruptive in class.

And since teachers don't want to be labeled as racist, this black student gets a little more leeway.

Only they don't get more leeway. It has been quantified that black students get suspended and expelled more often than white students.

That does not mean that they don't get more leeway. Many blacks see doing well in school as being too white, and being disruptive as being cool. It's a cultural thing. Also add the fact that blacks are more likely to be in single parent homes or in foster care due to parents being in prison. It just may be that a higher percentage of blacks do things that get them expelled than whites. Don't get me wrong, there are many wonderful black kids, and there are also many rotten white kids, but there are stastitical differences in the groups.

There are some racist teachers, but most teachers go out of there way to not be labeled as racist.

 

[JoeMoma]

The system in which a white teacher is more likely to view a black student as a threat, while identifying with the white student, and result in harsher punishments for the same kinds of misbehavior.

That's one example. It is not a 100% occurrence. There are too many other factors at work that means that it's practically impossible to quantify. But it exists, like the other prejudices in our world.

Many black students (not all, maybe not even most) use the race card as an excuse for being disruptive in class.

Kids don't think that far ahead. They might accuse racism to mitigate punishment after the fact.

Yes they do. But even if you are right that they don't, the effect is the same even if it's after the fact.

So do you also accept that white privilege in the classroom exists, and that sometimes the accusation of racism is justified, when white students get less or no punishment for the same misbehavior that gets black students harsher punishment?

Furthermore, if students think so far ahead, do you think that white students figure in their white privilege when planning what they can get away with?

I recognize that many types of privilege exist. In other words, life ain't fair. The ugly fat kid probably will not get treated as well as the attractive kid regardless of their colors. Sometimes the athlete gets better treatment because we've got to win that state championship.
Lots of things happen "sometimes".

 

[ricechickie]

The system in which a white teacher is more likely to view a black student as a threat, while identifying with the white student, and result in harsher punishments for the same kinds of misbehavior.

That's one example. It is not a 100% occurrence. There are too many other factors at work that means that it's practically impossible to quantify. But it exists, like the other prejudices in our world.

Many black students (not all, maybe not even most) use the race card as an excuse for being disruptive in class.

Kids don't think that far ahead. They might accuse racism to mitigate punishment after the fact.

Yes they do. But even if you are right that they don't, the effect is the same even if it's after the fact.

So do you also accept that white privilege in the classroom exists, and that sometimes the accusation of racism is justified, when white students get less or no punishment for the same misbehavior that gets black students harsher punishment?

Furthermore, if students think so far ahead, do you think that white students figure in their white privilege when planning what they can get away with?

I recognize that many types of privilege exist. In other words, life ain't fair. The ugly fat kid probably will not get treated as well as the attractive kid regardless of their colors. Sometimes the athlete gets better treatment because we've got to win that state championship.
Lots of things happen "sometimes".

So you admit that white privilege exists. As well as pretty privilege, thin privilege, etc.

Of course it can't be "fixed." But it can be recognized for what it is.

 

[JoeMoma]

Many black students (not all, maybe not even most) use the race card as an excuse for being disruptive in class.

Kids don't think that far ahead. They might accuse racism to mitigate punishment after the fact.

Yes they do. But even if you are right that they don't, the effect is the same even if it's after the fact.

So do you also accept that white privilege in the classroom exists, and that sometimes the accusation of racism is justified, when white students get less or no punishment for the same misbehavior that gets black students harsher punishment?

Furthermore, if students think so far ahead, do you think that white students figure in their white privilege when planning what they can get away with?

I recognize that many types of privilege exist. In other words, life ain't fair. The ugly fat kid probably will not get treated as well as the attractive kid regardless of their colors. Sometimes the athlete gets better treatment because we've got to win that state championship.
Lots of things happen "sometimes".

So you admit that white privilege exists. As well as pretty privilege, thin privilege, etc.

Of course it can't be "fixed." But it can be recognized for what it is.

I recognize that racism exists and that those that may benifit from that racism or not be subjected to that racism may be considered privileged.
I don't believe "white privilege" is running rampant in our public schools. If anything, blacks get a privilege that whites don't in school called affirmative action.