Can Science Ever Prove One Way Or Another Whether Or Not People Are Born Gay?

I'm asking this question because atheists on here repeatedly use the excuse that since they don't believe in the Bible that they just jump to the conclusion that people are either born gay or straight especially since being gay has its hardships.



So far, I don't see any arguments in the world of science proving this one way or the other. Am I missing something? Btw, this isn't meant to be a gay bashing thread, so please don't make it one. Just looking for answers here to this ages old debate about a possible gay gene.
In the end, it DOESNT MATTER.

EVERYONE has a cross to bear -- something they struggle with -- for some, it is homosexuality. Or others, it is porn. For others, it is pedophilia. For still others, it is gambling or even the thrill of shoplifting or even MURDER.

God's answer is the same for EVERYONE. "DONT DO IT."
 
I can only speak on my own experience.
I have a gay nephew that pretty much everyone knew was going to be gay by 3 or 4 years old.
And sure enough, he is gay. And always was. Never had a girlfriend. He is 36 now.
Also... a boy of one of the fellas at the office... all of us knew the kid is gay except the dad.
It was very evident when he was in grade school.
Sure enough... he came out about a year ago. He is now a senior in high school.

With all due respect, are you quite sure that it wasn't a coincidence? Also, how do you know that he wasn't groomed?
 
I'm asking this question because atheists on here repeatedly use the excuse that since they don't believe in the Bible that they just jump to the conclusion that people are either born gay or straight especially since being gay has its hardships.



So far, I don't see any arguments in the world of science proving this one way or the other. Am I missing something? Btw, this isn't meant to be a gay bashing thread, so please don't make it one. Just looking for answers here to this ages old debate about a possible gay gene.
There is no science other than data, but regardless of the culture and religious beliefs in any particular era, we know that homosexuality or at least homosexual behavior dates at least back to Biblical times. And my own experience with gay friends and family is that they did not choose to be gay. They just are.

I think it cruel and inhumane to force gay people to try to be straight just as I think it cruel and inhumane to not allow them to try to be straight if they choose to try. None of my friends and family expect any kind of special deference to their sexual orientation and all just accept it as who they are whether gay or straight and I am free to treat everybody just as people without having to walk on eggs. Nobody is in my face about it or makes any big deal about it.

I am a serious Christian, quite straight, quite traditional in the way I live my life and how I want society to be. But I live and let live as much as people will allow me. If you aren't intentionally harming anybody and allow others to live and let live, we'll get along just fine. Get in my face re your sexual orientation, race, religion, politics or anything else and we will have problems.
 
In the end, it DOESNT MATTER.

EVERYONE has a cross to bear -- something they struggle with -- for some, it is homosexuality. Or others, it is porn. For others, it is pedophilia. For still others, it is gambling or even the thrill of shoplifting or even MURDER.

God's answer is the same for EVERYONE. "DONT DO IT."

These are Jesus's words.

For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others--and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.'

Matthew 19:12

If God had a singular plan for people why would he be so cruel to exclude some people from that plan?
 
And with that I continue the fart jokes.

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And my own experience with gay friends and family is that they did not choose to be gay. They just are.
Me too. My best friend in God's Church was gay. But he was a TRUE Christian. He STRUGGLED with this sin and he finally died of AIDS because he gave in to the sin once too often.

He told me he was celibate his last few years and I believe him. It was sad, but I believe he was one of the few homosexuals who died in the faith.
 
With all due respect, are you quite sure that it wasn't a coincidence? Also, how do you know that he wasn't groomed?
No
He was clearly effeminate very early.
I raised a boy and a girl. Both are heterosexual.
There are significant differences in the sexes beginning VERY early. I am talking by 1 years old.
This child acted like a girl in every way when he was very little, and never stopped acting like a girl... and to this day is still effeminate.
 
So no gay gene?
No there is no gay gene so we can assume being gay is an anomaly rather than the way people are intended to be. Human beings, like all other two gender species, is intended to reproduce itself whether or not that is allowed or wanted or even possible for all. Gay sex will not reproduce anything. Nevertheless other human anomalies also exist with no scientific explanation available. It is not evil or even all that unusual. It's just the way it is and we might as well accept it because we're not going to change it without doing serious harm to people who do not deserve that harm. Some of my gay friends are among my favorite people on Earth.

 
In the end, it DOESNT MATTER.

If God doesn't make mistakes and considers homosexuality an abomination then why would people be born that way though?


Me too. My best friend in God's Church was gay. But he was a TRUE Christian. He STRUGGLED with this sin and he finally died of AIDS because he gave in to the sin once too often.

He told me he was celibate his last few years and I believe him. It was sad, but I believe he was one of the few homosexuals who died in the faith.

Sorry to hear that. 😞

No
He was clearly effeminate very early.
I raised a boy and a girl. Both are heterosexual.
There are significant differences in the sexes beginning VERY early. I am talking by 1 years old.
This child acted like a girl in every way when he was very little, and never stopped acting like a girl... and to this day is still effeminate.

When children are really little they don't even have any concept of gender.
 
I suggest yous start here;

Gregor Mendel, through his work on pea plants, discovered the fundamental laws of inheritance. He deduced that genes come in pairs and are inherited as distinct units, one from each parent. Mendel tracked the segregation of parental genes and their appearance in the offspring as dominant or recessive traits.

Mendel as the Father of Genetics :: DNA from the Beginning


Are all Peas gay or only Sweet Peas?
 

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