But President Bush was the liar...

"According to John Brennan, who was Deputy Director of the CIA at the time, “we were being asked to do things and to make sure that that justification was out there.”

The Lie That Got Us In: The Bush Administration Knew There Were No WMDs in Iraq « Antiwar.com Blog

There are two ways to look at the phrase "make sure there is justification..." 1) plant the justification 2) look and see if there is justification.

Two ways to look at the phrase we want to make sure the evidence supports the action taken... 1) we already know what we are going to do get the evidence to back it up... 2) we want to make sure whatever we do is backed up by evidence.
 
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Here's your WMDs ya POS democrats
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Republcians (7) and Democrats (147) voted against giving President Bush the deciding power to use military force in Iraq. In fact a majority of Democratic Congressmen/women voted against it.

Democrats provided the margin of victory. Democrats continued to vote to fund both wars, even after they had taken control of Congress. They continued to fund both wars, even after voting many many times on resolutions condemning the wars. Democrats are gutless cowards.

**sigh**

You're right. Those were the days when congress and the people crossed party lines to support the President - even when he lied to them.
It was also put to a vote about a month before an election and framed with 9.11 to make nay votes appear traitorous. And still, most Democrats voted against it. Plus, no one on the left or right were considering invading Iraq until the Bush administration began beating their war drums in 2002. Lastly, it was Bush alone who, as Commander-in-Chief, had the lone authorization to deploy our troops into Iraq. He was also in possession of a 90+ page NIE that few in Congress had security clearance to read.
 
Democrats provided the margin of victory. Democrats continued to vote to fund both wars, even after they had taken control of Congress. They continued to fund both wars, even after voting many many times on resolutions condemning the wars. Democrats are gutless cowards.

**sigh**

You're right. Those were the days when congress and the people crossed party lines to support the President - even when he lied to them.
It was also put to a vote about a month before an election and framed with 9.11 to make nay votes appear traitorous. And still, most Democrats voted against it. Plus, no one on the left or right were considering invading Iraq until the Bush administration began beating their war drums in 2002. Lastly, it was Bush alone who, as Commander-in-Chief, had the lone authorization to deploy our troops into Iraq. He was also in possession of a 90+ page NIE that few in Congress had security clearance to read.

The far left revisionist of history is a play once again..
 
Bush still lied no matter how many other people you want to drag into it.

No he didnt.
WHy are we debating this yet again for the 400th time? Democrats were for the war when the public was behind it, and against it when the public got tired of it. Democrats are demagogue scum.

I say Bush lied and your response is about other people. I said Bush lied....Whats your defense? Other people didnt know better?

Bush didn't start Desert Storm in 1991. Saddam invaded Kuwait.

Saddam agreed to the "1991 Cease Fire" which clearly defined what actions would occur if Saddam broke the "1991 Cease Fire" agreement which was NEVER a peace agreement.. a stop all future conflicts agreement but a
"CEASE FIRE" defined as
A ceasefire (or truce) is a temporary stoppage of a war in which each side agrees with the other to suspend aggressive actions.
After Iraq was driven by U.S.-led coalition forces out of Kuwait during Operation Desert Storm, Iraq and the U.N. Security Council signed a ceasefire agreement on March 3, 1991.
Throughout the 1990s, the U.N. Security Council passed 16 Resolutions calling for Iraq to disarm the WMDs program unconditionally and immediately.
Because no peace treaty was signed after the Gulf War, the war still remained in effect, such as an assassination attempt of former U.S. President George H. W. Bush by Iraqi agents while on a visit to Kuwait and Iraq was bombed in June 1993 as a response, Iraqi forces firing on coalition aircraft patrolling the Iraqi no-fly zones,

U.S. President Bill Clinton's bombing of Baghdad in 1998 during Operation Desert Fox, and an earlier 1996 bombing of Iraq by the U.S. during Operation Desert Strike.
The war remained in effect until 2003 when U.S. and United Kingdom forces invaded Iraq and toppled Saddam Hussein's regime from power.
Ceasefire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Where was there any discussion in the above that Bill Clinton and George W. Bush abandoned the "1991 Cease Fire" by firing on Saddam first?

I thought it was perfectly clear to Saddam and most people...
A) you sign an agreement to cease fire.
B) One side attacks the other side thus the "Cease Fire" no longer applies.

So where is the LIE that George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and the following 32 democrat quotes reflect? Where is the LIE?
"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998 WHERE'D SHE GET THIS INFORMATION BEFORE BUSH?
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999
"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs..threat our security"..Kerry 2002
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003.
 
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Really folks... do you sign agreements and then just break them?
Of course not and most civilized intelligent people don't.
Obviously Saddam after 16 UN resolutions, nearly half a million Iraqi children starved to death by Saddam, he didn't care!
 
Democrats provided the margin of victory. Democrats continued to vote to fund both wars, even after they had taken control of Congress. They continued to fund both wars, even after voting many many times on resolutions condemning the wars. Democrats are gutless cowards.

**sigh**

You're right. Those were the days when congress and the people crossed party lines to support the President - even when he lied to them.
It was also put to a vote about a month before an election and framed with 9.11 to make nay votes appear traitorous. And still, most Democrats voted against it. Plus, no one on the left or right were considering invading Iraq until the Bush administration began beating their war drums in 2002. Lastly, it was Bush alone who, as Commander-in-Chief, had the lone authorization to deploy our troops into Iraq. He was also in possession of a 90+ page NIE that few in Congress had security clearance to read.


Bush didn't start Desert Storm in 1991. Saddam invaded Kuwait.

Saddam agreed to the "1991 Cease Fire" which clearly defined what actions would occur if Saddam broke the "1991 Cease Fire" agreement which was NEVER a peace agreement.. a stop all future conflicts agreement but a
"CEASE FIRE" defined as
A ceasefire (or truce) is a temporary stoppage of a war in which each side agrees with the other to suspend aggressive actions.
After Iraq was driven by U.S.-led coalition forces out of Kuwait during Operation Desert Storm, Iraq and the U.N. Security Council signed a ceasefire agreement on March 3, 1991.
Throughout the 1990s, the U.N. Security Council passed 16 Resolutions calling for Iraq to disarm the WMDs program unconditionally and immediately.
Because no peace treaty was signed after the Gulf War, the war still remained in effect, such as an assassination attempt of former U.S. President George H. W. Bush by Iraqi agents while on a visit to Kuwait and Iraq was bombed in June 1993 as a response, Iraqi forces firing on coalition aircraft patrolling the Iraqi no-fly zones,

U.S. President Bill Clinton's bombing of Baghdad in 1998 during Operation Desert Fox, and an earlier 1996 bombing of Iraq by the U.S. during Operation Desert Strike.
The war remained in effect until 2003 when U.S. and United Kingdom forces invaded Iraq and toppled Saddam Hussein's regime from power.
Ceasefire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Where was there any discussion in the above that Bill Clinton and George W. Bush abandoned the "1991 Cease Fire" by firing on Saddam first?

I thought it was perfectly clear to Saddam and most people...
A) you sign an agreement to cease fire.
B) One side attacks the other side thus the "Cease Fire" no longer applies.

So where is the LIE that George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and the following 32 democrat quotes reflect? Where is the LIE?
"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998 WHERE'D SHE GET THIS INFORMATION BEFORE BUSH?
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999
"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs..threat our security"..Kerry 2002
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003.
 
Bush really screwed thing up in the Middle East. Some think he is an idiot(which he is) but the Bush policy was to cause turmoil in the Middle East / world to keep energy prices high. The real idiots are the ones who think he went into Iraq to protect America.

The price of energy on average has been higher under Obama than it was under Bush, so you programmed far left rant just feel on it's face.
 
Here's your WMDs ya POS democrats
mideast-iraq.jpg

I guess you've never been in the military, nor do I believe that you know the true definition of "WMD's".

It means "weapons of mass destruction", which means that it will not only kill the person you're shooting at, it will kill at least 30 others with the same shot.

Chemical weapons are a type, so are biological and radiological (typically called CBR in the Navy, meaning Chemical, Biological, and Radiation) because not only do they kill in the zone of the shockwave, but they can also kill many miles outside of it.

It pisses me off when idiot civilians think they know what they are talking about when it comes to weapons, and they have no clue.

A single gun, while it may be able to kill a few people, doesn't qualify as a weapon of mass destruction.

If you're going to use a gun and call it a weapon of mass destruction, check out the various Gatling guns that the military uses that fire around 3,000 rounds per min.
 
Bush still lied no matter how many other people you want to drag into it.

No he didnt.
WHy are we debating this yet again for the 400th time? Democrats were for the war when the public was behind it, and against it when the public got tired of it. Democrats are demagogue scum.

I say Bush lied and your response is about other people. I said Bush lied....Whats your defense? Other people didnt know better?

My defense? 3 SEPARATE Congressional Investigations, ALL 3 found that no lies were told.

In fact in order for Bush to have lied would mean that Clinton and his entire admin lied, that every major power in the World lied, that the leaders of the Senate ( which was Democrat) and the Democratic leaders of the House lied.
 
Here's your WMDs ya POS democrats
mideast-iraq.jpg

I guess you've never been in the military, nor do I believe that you know the true definition of "WMD's".

It means "weapons of mass destruction", which means that it will not only kill the person you're shooting at, it will kill at least 30 others with the same shot.

Chemical weapons are a type, so are biological and radiological (typically called CBR in the Navy, meaning Chemical, Biological, and Radiation) because not only do they kill in the zone of the shockwave, but they can also kill many miles outside of it.

It pisses me off when idiot civilians think they know what they are talking about when it comes to weapons, and they have no clue.

A single gun, while it may be able to kill a few people, doesn't qualify as a weapon of mass destruction.

If you're going to use a gun and call it a weapon of mass destruction, check out the various Gatling guns that the military uses that fire around 3,000 rounds per min.
No, numb nutz. A single gun can kill millions.
 

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