Brexit busted.

[Mindful]

The UK should never have gotten herself embroiled in the abortion that is the EU. Wealthy countries are forced to impoverish their people to prop up corrupt governments who pander to imbeciles. Take Greece as an example. A wonderful country to visit but the Public Sector sucks the country dry. The UK and Germany have been forced to prop up that corrupt government for years.

It started off as a loose trading alliance of Northern European states, known as the Common Market. The British, who weren't that enthusiastic about it, were refused entry by the French. De Gaulle saying he knew how the British 'were'.

Eventually, after much lobbying by passionate pro Europeans, Britain became a member.

Since then, the whole creation has morphed into a bureaucratic monster.

As was intended.

By whom?

The globalists who are pushing it.

You mean a master plan?

Like: Pax Europa: The United States of Europe and the Merovingian Master Plan.

 

[Vikrant]

I watched and heard what he said. It seems you didn't.

Had it on the radio. I had to pull over because I was cheering every word.

You felt the need to tell me about it?

Suck it up Babe.

I do not think that the EU is in the interest of the US. I also think that Britain will benefit from leaving the EU.

Obama made it clear yesterday that in terms of trading, the EU is in the interest of the US. He said there could be a US-UK trade agreement “down the line” but warned: “It’s not going to happen any time soon, because our focus is on negotiating with a big bloc, the EU."

If it succeeds, EU will emerge as a competitor to the US dominance. This is not good from American perspective. I am surprised that Obama missed this detail.

 

[montelatici]

Had it on the radio. I had to pull over because I was cheering every word.

You felt the need to tell me about it?

Suck it up Babe.

I do not think that the EU is in the interest of the US. I also think that Britain will benefit from leaving the EU.

Obama made it clear yesterday that in terms of trading, the EU is in the interest of the US. He said there could be a US-UK trade agreement “down the line” but warned: “It’s not going to happen any time soon, because our focus is on negotiating with a big bloc, the EU."

If it succeeds, EU will emerge as a competitor to the US dominance. This is not good from American perspective. I am surprised that Obama missed this detail.

First of all the EC was not a loose trading agreement between northern European states. The Treaty of Rome which started the whole thing was between France, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands Luxembourg and West Germany. France and Italy at the time together represented more than half of the GDP of the organization. West Germany was very poor at the time.

The UK begged to join but France resisted the UK's entry for a long time. France. rightfully determined that the UK would be a Trojan Horse for the U.S. that would weaken Europe. They were right. Italy joined Germany in support of a British entry, and France had to agree to the UK entry. That was the worst mistake ever made by the EC and it affected the ability for Europe to integrate into the United States of Europe that had been the original intention. That was actually Churchill's intention although it was taken up by Jacques Delors the mythical father of the European Union. Britain's pot shots at the Union and its insistence on maintaining its separation has stopped European integration for decades. Hopefully Britain will vote to leave and the European project will progress. Europe can only survive as a single entity, the U.S., Russia, China and up and coming India will become to strong for individual European states to compete.

 

[Vikrant]

You felt the need to tell me about it?

Suck it up Babe.

I do not think that the EU is in the interest of the US. I also think that Britain will benefit from leaving the EU.

Obama made it clear yesterday that in terms of trading, the EU is in the interest of the US. He said there could be a US-UK trade agreement “down the line” but warned: “It’s not going to happen any time soon, because our focus is on negotiating with a big bloc, the EU."

If it succeeds, EU will emerge as a competitor to the US dominance. This is not good from American perspective. I am surprised that Obama missed this detail.

First of all the EC was not a loose trading agreement between northern European states. The Treaty of Rome which started the whole thing was between France, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands Luxembourg and West Germany. France and Italy at the time together represented more than half of the GDP of the organization. West Germany was very poor at the time.

The UK begged to join but France resisted the UK's entry for a long time. France. rightfully determined that the UK would be a Trojan Horse for the U.S. that would weaken Europe. They were right. Italy joined Germany in support of a British entry, and France had to agree to the UK entry. That was the worst mistake ever made by the EC and it affected the ability for Europe to integrate into the United States of Europe that had been the original intention. That was actually Churchill's intention although it was taken up by Jacques Delors the mythical father of the European Union. Britain's pot shots at the Union and its insistence on maintaining its separation has stopped European integration for decades. Hopefully Britain will vote to leave and the European project will progress. Europe can only survive as a single entity, the U.S., Russia, China and up and coming India will become to strong for individual European states to compete.

EU is a no go. Simply because on one hand it has ordinary countries like Italy and on another it has exceptional countries like England ( via UK). Even now, Germany and up to some extent France bear the major grunt for EU; population in those countries especially Germany is growing tired of supporting countries like Italy that do not want to carry their own weight. People in UK particularly in England believe they are born to be exceptional people; thus they will never agree to be a part of the system which puts them at par with ordinary countries like Italy.

 

[Mindful]

What was Obama talking about?

Pulling up the drawbridge?

 

[Drummond]

The EU is a mutated version of the old EEC. The EC was a trading bloc, and nothing more. The EU is a political entity .. with its own Parliament .. and it seeks to part-run all of its Member States, robbing them of a measure of their autonomy in the process.

Immigration is one major issue. The UK currently has no real hope of controlling its borders with anything like meaningful effectiveness. The EU insists upon the free movement of people across all of its Member States - this a foundling principle which they insist they will not abandon. The UK is stuck with loss of control as a result.

Try imagining the US as part of a wider federation of powers, say, combined politically with Mexico and Canada. Then try imagining that there was a Parliamentary body .. with the officials running it UNELECTED .. which had governing, overruling powers over all of the individual Governments which each country maintained. Would US citizens stand for their loss of sovereignty, the loss of freedom to be sure, from one day to the next, that the laws they obeyed were THEIR laws, that THEY has decided upon ??

 

[Drummond]

The EU is not only a good idea, it is necessary. There are many flaws, and lessons could have been better learned from the US experiment (not to try to make a US of E, exactly, just learn from example of what works and what doesn't). States were not ready to infringe sovereignty, missing the fact that it was just that national individualism that menaced peace and prosperity.

The EU is what the EEC became, once the 'nature abhors a vacuum' phenomenon was settled. The EU is now full of power-mongers, seeking to, insisting upon, exerting their political influence across all of its Member States. The EU Parliament exists for this purpose.

The EU is a perversion of the original vision, as represented by the older EEC ... only ever intended to be a trading bloc. Now, those wanting to grab and wield power are in charge.

 

[Mindful]

I posted this elsewhere. Should have posted it here.

THE SHORTEST QUEUE IN THE WORLD.
By David Vance On April 24th, 2016 at 10:53 pm

During his tour of the UK, in a desperate attempt to prop up the pitiful Cameron, Obama INSISTED that were the UK to leave the EU it would find itself “at the back of the queue of Nations seeking to negotiate Free Trade deals with the USA”

US President Barack Obama warned Britain would be in the “back of the queue” for striking trade deals with the US if it left the EU. Speaking at a joint press conference with David Cameron, Mr Obama said UK voters must decide their own future but their decision could affect US prosperity.

The political and media establishment promptly presented this as a damning indictment of the BREXIT case. Slam dunk.

Except.

Except no one in the media thought to ask just how many other Nations are currently in the queue that Obama would place us at the back of!

The answer is…ZERO.

No Nation is currently in the process of conducting Free Trade deals with the US.

Yes, the EU is trying to seal a deal – but that is not a given and there is vast European opposition to it. EU aside, not ONE Nation is in the queue. So, if we leave the EU, we go to the top of the queue despite Obama’s phoney duplicitous rhetoric, lapped up by our useless media.

There is one more factor that the Media overlooked.



Whether we are at the top of “the queue” or not even in the “queue” we have nothing to fear.

 

[Drummond]

Wasn't sure, but it always seemed the advantages to staying outweighed any disadvantages. One can never be sure with the Brits, though. They have irrational tendencies (especially their virulence concerning France and the French).

Its a straight choice between what you know and the great unknown.
The EU does need reform but even if it was the land of milk and honey there are some who would want out.
Essentially they yearn for the old days of Empire when Britain was white and we could lord it over the "darkies".

The Hungarian government says it is needed not only the reforms it.
It is also needed the moral behavior.

“We call on Mr. Asselborn to stop agitating against adherence to European regulations”, the statement reads.

Comments by Luxembourg’s foreign minister are unacceptable
April 13, 2016

Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade Péter Szijjártó has said that comments by Luxembourg’s foreign minister Jean Asselborn relating to the Prime Minister of Hungary and the Hungarian migration policy are “unacceptable and shameful”.
In a statement issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade to Hungarian news agency MTI on Tuesday, Mr. Szijjártó reacted to comments by Mr. Asselborn which were critical of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán and Hungarian migration policy. Referring to next Tuesday’s meeting between Mr. Orbán and former German Chancellor Helmut Kohl, Mr. Asselborn said that it is mysterious as to why such a real European as Helmut Kohl should be receiving “such dubious figures”. He added that if Germany had reacted in a Hungarian way, with “barbed wire and batons”, the European Union would have fallen apart. In the same interview Mr. Asselborn praised Germany’s migration policy.

In his statement, Mr. Szijjártó stressed that the Hungarian people have elected the Hungarian government and the Prime Minister twice in a row with decisive majorities, and therefore Mr. Asselborn should respect the decision of the Hungarian electorate.

He said that from the beginning of the illegal migration crisis Hungary has taken the same standpoint: external borders must be protected, rules must be adhered to, and uncontrolled masses of people must not cross through Europe. He added that now “former critics of Hungary admit that the Hungarian solution is working”, and the EU is now focusing on the protection of external borders.

The Minister said that pursuing Mr. Asselborn’s policy for handling illegal migration would result in unforeseeable repercussions: “the terror threat would increase, public safety would weaken, and there would be arbitrary, confused situations instead of adherence to rules”.

“We call on Mr. Asselborn to stop agitating against adherence to European regulations”, the statement reads.

(MTI) Source: http://www.kormany.hu/en/ministry-o...uxembourg-s-foreign-minister-are-unacceptable

Migration is an issue that Europe needs to agree on. It is not fair to Greece and Italy to bear the load whilst the UK looks the other way.

The UK is already overcrowded, its infrastructure creaking under the 'weight' of the immigration levels we already suffer. To what additional extent would you insist we suffer even more of the same ?

 

[Drummond]

I posted this elsewhere. Should have posted it here.

THE SHORTEST QUEUE IN THE WORLD.
By David Vance On April 24th, 2016 at 10:53 pm

During his tour of the UK, in a desperate attempt to prop up the pitiful Cameron, Obama INSISTED that were the UK to leave the EU it would find itself “at the back of the queue of Nations seeking to negotiate Free Trade deals with the USA”

US President Barack Obama warned Britain would be in the “back of the queue” for striking trade deals with the US if it left the EU. Speaking at a joint press conference with David Cameron, Mr Obama said UK voters must decide their own future but their decision could affect US prosperity.

The political and media establishment promptly presented this as a damning indictment of the BREXIT case. Slam dunk.

Except.

Except no one in the media thought to ask just how many other Nations are currently in the queue that Obama would place us at the back of!

The answer is…ZERO.

No Nation is currently in the process of conducting Free Trade deals with the US.

Yes, the EU is trying to seal a deal – but that is not a given and there is vast European opposition to it. EU aside, not ONE Nation is in the queue. So, if we leave the EU, we go to the top of the queue despite Obama’s phoney duplicitous rhetoric, lapped up by our useless media.

There is one more factor that the Media overlooked.



Whether we are at the top of “the queue” or not even in the “queue” we have nothing to fear.

Nicely put.

Additionally, as the Express pointed out on Sunday .. Obama, in making this threat, did so in the knowledge that he would have no power to implement any such policy, or approach, by the time it became an 'issue'. Obama was making a threat he could not back up, BUT, he made it to frighten the 'Brexit' sympathisers into reconsidering.

Blackmail .. pure & simple ....

 

[Iceweasel]

At least you Europeans now know what we have been dealing with, with our dictator in chief. Sorry 'bout that.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Wasn't sure, but it always seemed the advantages to staying outweighed any disadvantages. One can never be sure with the Brits, though. They have irrational tendencies (especially their virulence concerning France and the French).

Its a straight choice between what you know and the great unknown.
The EU does need reform but even if it was the land of milk and honey there are some who would want out.
Essentially they yearn for the old days of Empire when Britain was white and we could lord it over the "darkies".

The Hungarian government says it is needed not only the reforms it.
It is also needed the moral behavior.

“We call on Mr. Asselborn to stop agitating against adherence to European regulations”, the statement reads.

Comments by Luxembourg’s foreign minister are unacceptable
April 13, 2016

Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade Péter Szijjártó has said that comments by Luxembourg’s foreign minister Jean Asselborn relating to the Prime Minister of Hungary and the Hungarian migration policy are “unacceptable and shameful”.
In a statement issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade to Hungarian news agency MTI on Tuesday, Mr. Szijjártó reacted to comments by Mr. Asselborn which were critical of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán and Hungarian migration policy. Referring to next Tuesday’s meeting between Mr. Orbán and former German Chancellor Helmut Kohl, Mr. Asselborn said that it is mysterious as to why such a real European as Helmut Kohl should be receiving “such dubious figures”. He added that if Germany had reacted in a Hungarian way, with “barbed wire and batons”, the European Union would have fallen apart. In the same interview Mr. Asselborn praised Germany’s migration policy.

In his statement, Mr. Szijjártó stressed that the Hungarian people have elected the Hungarian government and the Prime Minister twice in a row with decisive majorities, and therefore Mr. Asselborn should respect the decision of the Hungarian electorate.

He said that from the beginning of the illegal migration crisis Hungary has taken the same standpoint: external borders must be protected, rules must be adhered to, and uncontrolled masses of people must not cross through Europe. He added that now “former critics of Hungary admit that the Hungarian solution is working”, and the EU is now focusing on the protection of external borders.

The Minister said that pursuing Mr. Asselborn’s policy for handling illegal migration would result in unforeseeable repercussions: “the terror threat would increase, public safety would weaken, and there would be arbitrary, confused situations instead of adherence to rules”.

“We call on Mr. Asselborn to stop agitating against adherence to European regulations”, the statement reads.

(MTI) Source: http://www.kormany.hu/en/ministry-o...uxembourg-s-foreign-minister-are-unacceptable

Migration is an issue that Europe needs to agree on. It is not fair to Greece and Italy to bear the load whilst the UK looks the other way.

The UK is already overcrowded, its infrastructure creaking under the 'weight' of the immigration levels we already suffer. To what additional extent would you insist we suffer even more of the same ?

Our infrastructure is creaking under the weight of nobody paying their taxes. Immigrants keep the NHS afloat.

 

[Drummond]

 

[Mindful]

At least you Europeans now know what we have been dealing with, with our dictator in chief. Sorry 'bout that.

I knew about it,long before his coronation.

 

[Mindful]

View attachment 72806

They should get rid of Strasbourg for a start. Just a gravy train for some MEP's.

 

[Drummond]

Wasn't sure, but it always seemed the advantages to staying outweighed any disadvantages. One can never be sure with the Brits, though. They have irrational tendencies (especially their virulence concerning France and the French).

Its a straight choice between what you know and the great unknown.
The EU does need reform but even if it was the land of milk and honey there are some who would want out.
Essentially they yearn for the old days of Empire when Britain was white and we could lord it over the "darkies".

The Hungarian government says it is needed not only the reforms it.
It is also needed the moral behavior.

“We call on Mr. Asselborn to stop agitating against adherence to European regulations”, the statement reads.

Comments by Luxembourg’s foreign minister are unacceptable
April 13, 2016

Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade Péter Szijjártó has said that comments by Luxembourg’s foreign minister Jean Asselborn relating to the Prime Minister of Hungary and the Hungarian migration policy are “unacceptable and shameful”.
In a statement issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade to Hungarian news agency MTI on Tuesday, Mr. Szijjártó reacted to comments by Mr. Asselborn which were critical of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán and Hungarian migration policy. Referring to next Tuesday’s meeting between Mr. Orbán and former German Chancellor Helmut Kohl, Mr. Asselborn said that it is mysterious as to why such a real European as Helmut Kohl should be receiving “such dubious figures”. He added that if Germany had reacted in a Hungarian way, with “barbed wire and batons”, the European Union would have fallen apart. In the same interview Mr. Asselborn praised Germany’s migration policy.

In his statement, Mr. Szijjártó stressed that the Hungarian people have elected the Hungarian government and the Prime Minister twice in a row with decisive majorities, and therefore Mr. Asselborn should respect the decision of the Hungarian electorate.

He said that from the beginning of the illegal migration crisis Hungary has taken the same standpoint: external borders must be protected, rules must be adhered to, and uncontrolled masses of people must not cross through Europe. He added that now “former critics of Hungary admit that the Hungarian solution is working”, and the EU is now focusing on the protection of external borders.

The Minister said that pursuing Mr. Asselborn’s policy for handling illegal migration would result in unforeseeable repercussions: “the terror threat would increase, public safety would weaken, and there would be arbitrary, confused situations instead of adherence to rules”.

“We call on Mr. Asselborn to stop agitating against adherence to European regulations”, the statement reads.

(MTI) Source: http://www.kormany.hu/en/ministry-o...uxembourg-s-foreign-minister-are-unacceptable

Migration is an issue that Europe needs to agree on. It is not fair to Greece and Italy to bear the load whilst the UK looks the other way.

The UK is already overcrowded, its infrastructure creaking under the 'weight' of the immigration levels we already suffer. To what additional extent would you insist we suffer even more of the same ?

Our infrastructure is creaking under the weight of nobody paying their taxes. Immigrants keep the NHS afloat.

Illegal immigrants, by their very nature, are also unlikely to pay tax (income tax, anyway ..).

But as for the 'legal' ones ... I've a couple of simple questions for you. I'd like an honest answer, please ..

How many is TOO many to take ? Would you agree that the UK has finite resources, finite space, a finite capacity to cope with increasing numbers coming here ? Specifically .. would you set any limit to the numbers entering the UK ... and .. what IS that limit, in your view ?

OR ... do you not accept any need for any limits at any time ? We can take anyone ... forever ... eh ?

A pro-EU vote is a vote which says we are mandated to take ANY quantity of EU citizens who choose to move here. No discussion about capacity to cope ... just the mandate to TAKE THEM ALL. You think that's reasonable, OR, do you think this is a tyranny we should be rid of ??

 

[Mindful]

Wasn't sure, but it always seemed the advantages to staying outweighed any disadvantages. One can never be sure with the Brits, though. They have irrational tendencies (especially their virulence concerning France and the French).

Its a straight choice between what you know and the great unknown.
The EU does need reform but even if it was the land of milk and honey there are some who would want out.
Essentially they yearn for the old days of Empire when Britain was white and we could lord it over the "darkies".

The Hungarian government says it is needed not only the reforms it.
It is also needed the moral behavior.

“We call on Mr. Asselborn to stop agitating against adherence to European regulations”, the statement reads.

Comments by Luxembourg’s foreign minister are unacceptable
April 13, 2016

Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade Péter Szijjártó has said that comments by Luxembourg’s foreign minister Jean Asselborn relating to the Prime Minister of Hungary and the Hungarian migration policy are “unacceptable and shameful”.
In a statement issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade to Hungarian news agency MTI on Tuesday, Mr. Szijjártó reacted to comments by Mr. Asselborn which were critical of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán and Hungarian migration policy. Referring to next Tuesday’s meeting between Mr. Orbán and former German Chancellor Helmut Kohl, Mr. Asselborn said that it is mysterious as to why such a real European as Helmut Kohl should be receiving “such dubious figures”. He added that if Germany had reacted in a Hungarian way, with “barbed wire and batons”, the European Union would have fallen apart. In the same interview Mr. Asselborn praised Germany’s migration policy.

In his statement, Mr. Szijjártó stressed that the Hungarian people have elected the Hungarian government and the Prime Minister twice in a row with decisive majorities, and therefore Mr. Asselborn should respect the decision of the Hungarian electorate.

He said that from the beginning of the illegal migration crisis Hungary has taken the same standpoint: external borders must be protected, rules must be adhered to, and uncontrolled masses of people must not cross through Europe. He added that now “former critics of Hungary admit that the Hungarian solution is working”, and the EU is now focusing on the protection of external borders.

The Minister said that pursuing Mr. Asselborn’s policy for handling illegal migration would result in unforeseeable repercussions: “the terror threat would increase, public safety would weaken, and there would be arbitrary, confused situations instead of adherence to rules”.

“We call on Mr. Asselborn to stop agitating against adherence to European regulations”, the statement reads.

(MTI) Source: http://www.kormany.hu/en/ministry-o...uxembourg-s-foreign-minister-are-unacceptable

Migration is an issue that Europe needs to agree on. It is not fair to Greece and Italy to bear the load whilst the UK looks the other way.

The UK is already overcrowded, its infrastructure creaking under the 'weight' of the immigration levels we already suffer. To what additional extent would you insist we suffer even more of the same ?

Our infrastructure is creaking under the weight of nobody paying their taxes. Immigrants keep the NHS afloat.

What do you mean nobody paying their taxes? You pay tax every time you buy something.

 

[Mindful]

Its a straight choice between what you know and the great unknown.
The EU does need reform but even if it was the land of milk and honey there are some who would want out.
Essentially they yearn for the old days of Empire when Britain was white and we could lord it over the "darkies".

The Hungarian government says it is needed not only the reforms it.
It is also needed the moral behavior.

“We call on Mr. Asselborn to stop agitating against adherence to European regulations”, the statement reads.

Comments by Luxembourg’s foreign minister are unacceptable
April 13, 2016

Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade Péter Szijjártó has said that comments by Luxembourg’s foreign minister Jean Asselborn relating to the Prime Minister of Hungary and the Hungarian migration policy are “unacceptable and shameful”.
In a statement issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade to Hungarian news agency MTI on Tuesday, Mr. Szijjártó reacted to comments by Mr. Asselborn which were critical of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán and Hungarian migration policy. Referring to next Tuesday’s meeting between Mr. Orbán and former German Chancellor Helmut Kohl, Mr. Asselborn said that it is mysterious as to why such a real European as Helmut Kohl should be receiving “such dubious figures”. He added that if Germany had reacted in a Hungarian way, with “barbed wire and batons”, the European Union would have fallen apart. In the same interview Mr. Asselborn praised Germany’s migration policy.

In his statement, Mr. Szijjártó stressed that the Hungarian people have elected the Hungarian government and the Prime Minister twice in a row with decisive majorities, and therefore Mr. Asselborn should respect the decision of the Hungarian electorate.

He said that from the beginning of the illegal migration crisis Hungary has taken the same standpoint: external borders must be protected, rules must be adhered to, and uncontrolled masses of people must not cross through Europe. He added that now “former critics of Hungary admit that the Hungarian solution is working”, and the EU is now focusing on the protection of external borders.

The Minister said that pursuing Mr. Asselborn’s policy for handling illegal migration would result in unforeseeable repercussions: “the terror threat would increase, public safety would weaken, and there would be arbitrary, confused situations instead of adherence to rules”.

“We call on Mr. Asselborn to stop agitating against adherence to European regulations”, the statement reads.

(MTI) Source: http://www.kormany.hu/en/ministry-o...uxembourg-s-foreign-minister-are-unacceptable

Migration is an issue that Europe needs to agree on. It is not fair to Greece and Italy to bear the load whilst the UK looks the other way.

The UK is already overcrowded, its infrastructure creaking under the 'weight' of the immigration levels we already suffer. To what additional extent would you insist we suffer even more of the same ?

Our infrastructure is creaking under the weight of nobody paying their taxes. Immigrants keep the NHS afloat.

Illegal immigrants, by their very nature, are also unlikely to pay tax (income tax, anyway ..).

But as for the 'legal' ones ... I've a couple of simple questions for you. I'd like an honest answer, please ..

How many is TOO many to take ? Would you agree that the UK has finite resources, finite space, a finite capacity to cope with increasing numbers coming here ? Specifically .. would you set any limit to the numbers entering the UK ... and .. what IS that limit, in your view ?

OR ... do you not accept any need for any limits at any time ? We can take anyone ... forever ... eh ?

A pro-EU vote is a vote which says we are mandated to take ANY quantity of EU citizens who choose to move here. No discussion about capacity to cope ... just the mandate to TAKE THEM ALL. You think that's reasonable, OR, do you think this is a tyranny we should be rid of ??

I notice the Pope took Moslems back with him.And left the Christians in Lesbos.

 

[Drummond]

 

[Tommy Tainant]

If we leave the EU we would be at the mercy of the Tories. Too awful to contemplate. Our rights and jobs are better protected in the EU.