Brexit busted.

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    Wasn't sure, but it always seemed the advantages to staying outweighed any disadvantages. One can never be sure with the Brits, though. They have irrational tendencies (especially their virulence concerning France and the French).
     
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    Its a straight choice between what you know and the great unknown.
    The EU does need reform but even if it was the land of milk and honey there are some who would want out.
    Essentially they yearn for the old days of Empire when Britain was white and we could lord it over the "darkies".
     
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    The Hungarian government says it is needed not only the reforms it.
    It is also needed the moral behavior.

     
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    Migration is an issue that Europe needs to agree on. It is not fair to Greece and Italy to bear the load whilst the UK looks the other way.
     
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    About 10% of Italy's registered population are now immigrants. Unregistered who knows. This population is destined to grow dramatically. And, contrary to popular belief, most of the migrants remain in Italy unlike in Greece. They work in agriculture mostly at very low wages because they are mostly uneducated sub-saharans who are a benefit for tomato, olive and grape harvests. But, at some point they become too many to handle.
     
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    I'm voting to stay in, but I've always been an "internationalist/federalist" and having travelled throughout most of Europe, I like the idea of a single currency and no border controls within the E.U. I don't mind surrendering national sovereignty so long as I can vote for whoever represents my views and aspirations in an effective Europe-wide government. I agree however the E.U. as it stands needs a major reform of it's institutions and some of it's policies.
     
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    The EU is not only a good idea, it is necessary. There are many flaws, and lessons could have been better learned from the US experiment (not to try to make a US of E, exactly, just learn from example of what works and what doesn't). States were not ready to infringe sovereignty, missing the fact that it was just that national individualism that menaced peace and prosperity.
     
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    Are those your vies, if they are you are being very racist. Those who have the intelligence can see that the E.U. is forcing the UK to pay more and more for less and less. Our economy is growing and the E.U. want more of the pie, so put obstacles in the way. Our welfare bill is soaring and the EU want us to take in even more criminal migrants. Our NHS is floundering under the pressure of migrants demanding treatment. Our schools are failing because so many pupils don't understand English, so have to be educated in basics first leaving the English speaking pupils to sit bored in class.
     
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