BREAKING: It's Official ----Judge Chutkan Pauses Trump DC Case Amid Dispute Over Immunity Argument

[Marener]

So you think Trump could be arrested and prosecuted for his phone call to Zelensky, or mishandling or mis-declassifying classified docs, or any of the Smith indictments like J6, etc.?

I think any president can be arrested and prosecuted for violating the law.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So you think Trump could be arrested and prosecuted for his phone call to Zelensky, or mishandling or mis-declassifying classified docs, or any of the Smith indictments like J6, etc.?

If he broke the law in any of those areas, why not?

 

[kyzr]

Irrelevant. You claimed the president can’t be arrested for infractions. The constitution says he can.

The Constitution says he can be arrested only if CONVICTED of the Impeachment Articles.

 

[22lcidw]

Indeed, Justice Story specifically reminded that while former officials were not eligible for impeachment or conviction, they were – and this is extremely important – "still liable to be tried and punished in the ordinary tribunals of justice."
Put anther way, in the language of today: President Trump is still liable for everything he did while he was in office, as an ordinary citizen, unless the statute of limitations has run, still liable for everything he did while in office, didn't get away with anything yet – yet.
We have a criminal justice system in this country. We have civil litigation. And former presidents are not immune from being held accountable by either one.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-02-14/read-mcconnell-speech-after-trumps-impeachment-trial-acquittal#:~:text=Saying%20that%20he%20found%20Trump,January%206th%20was%20a%20disgrace.

Should be a 9-0 vote against Benedict Donald like they ruled against Nixon, but likely will be 8-1.

Republicans have learned so much since Nixon was destroyed. They live on vengeance but do it half ass. Of course, they do not have the entertainment and media wings of the globalists on their side. Progs have great theatre as they emote. And frankly the general population is not that smart or to into themselves as we decline.

 

[kyzr]

If he broke the law in any of those areas, why not?

read post #34

The president would need to be CONVICTED of the impeachment articles.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

read post #34

The president would need to be CONVICTED of the impeachment articles.

Nope, the two have nothing to do with each other.

Impeachment is a political process for which there are no legal ramifications. The worst thing that can come from impeachment is loss of a job.

 

[Marener]

The Constitution says he can be arrested only if CONVICTED of the Impeachment Articles.

No, it doesn’t say that at all. There is no “only” there. The constitution says that once impeached and out of office, they can be subject to criminal prosecution. This means your claim of double jeopardy is nonsense. If “double jeopardy” were accurate, they couldn’t be subject to arrest after impeachment.

You can’t have it both ways.

 

[my2¢]

If the court rules a president has complete immunity, then watch for the Bidens to be partying hardy during 2024.

 

[Arlette]

Not above the Law, under the Constitution, duh.

 

[BlindBoo]

If Benedict Donald, and any president, is immune from prosecutions, then Ford didn't need to pardon Nixon as he should have been immune from all crimes he committed while in office.

9-0

 

[DBA]

This might be the stupidest thing you have ever posted.

You don't think double-jeopardy applies here? You may be very surprised to find out that many very intelligent attorneys disagree with you regarding claims of double-jeopardy. You don't believe the SC is taking this into consideration?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You don't think double-jeopardy applies here?

Of course not, Impeachment is a political procedure, not a legal one. There are no legal ramifications to an impeachment, the worst that can happen is the loss of a job

You may be very surprised to find out that many very intelligent attorneys disagree with you regarding claims of double-jeopardy.

Do you have a list?

You don't believe the SC is taking this into consideration?

Nope, I trust they are smarter than that.

 

[Marener]

You don't think double-jeopardy applies here? You may be very surprised to find out that many very intelligent attorneys disagree with you regarding claims of double-jeopardy. You don't believe the SC is taking this into consideration?

The constitution disagrees. It literally says that people who are impeached can be subject to prosecution. That wouldn’t be possible if double jeopardy applies.

Who are these very intelligent attorneys who disagree?

 

[DBA]

I think any president can be arrested and prosecuted for violating the law.

Careful, your man Biden potentially has some very serious charges on the way. He won't be impeached no matter what because Democrats in the Senate couldn't care less about treason, selling influence or any of that, but once he leaves office, he is fair game.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Careful, your man Biden potentially has some very serious charges on the way.

Good.

but once he leaves office, he is fair game.

As he should be.

 

[DBA]

Of course not, Impeachment is a political procedure, not a legal one. There are no legal ramifications to an impeachment, the worst that can happen is the loss of a job



Do you have a list?



Nope, I trust they are smarter than that.

Or maybe you aren't as smart as them. There could be that.

 

[Marener]

Careful, your man Biden potentially has some very serious charges on the way. He won't be impeached no matter what because Democrats in the Senate couldn't care less about treason, selling influence or any of that, but once he leaves office, he is fair game.

Why should I be careful?

 

[CowboyTed]

Above what law? That people should protest an election that they thought was stolen? That he deliberately said to do it peacefully?

Presidents all the time stand at the bully pulpit and spew rhetoric that can be considered inflammatory. It isn't a crime, or hasn't been a crime in the past, but suddenly, for this one President, it is?

I'll wait for the SCOTUS to rule. I'm thinking this time next year maybe. Or they may expedite it.

Hey,

You went to court 60+ times and fucking lost.

Got it, ye lost...

Then Trump tried to steal it...

Now he wants to say he was above the law because he was President.

There is no way the SC is going to let that happen. Cause the next thing a President could do is execute everyone on the SC and claim that he above the law. He would also be above the law on calling next election. so he would be proclaiming himself Dicytator for life.

 

[BackAgain]

Can't imagine the SCOTUS, even this one, saying the POTUS is above the law by default. If they do take it up, they are likely to return it saying the issue can't be decided as a matter of law yet.

The President is clearly not above the law. That is a red herring contention. Just because that’s the way the Special Persecutor has attempted to frame the issue, doesn’t make it the question.

 

[CowboyTed]

Can't imagine the SCOTUS, even this one, saying the POTUS is above the law by default. If they do take it up, they are likely to return it saying the issue can't be decided as a matter of law yet.

Thomas will... Seriously he will probably say Trump is above the law.

If the SC says he is not above the law then Trial goes ahead as normal...