Billboard Coming to a Town Near You~ Hijab, the Dress of Modesty

[Coyote]

So who is behind this billboard and why did they sponsor it?

Billboard Campaign In Dallas Aims To Dispel Misconceptions About Islam And The Hijab

Ruman Sadiq says the current political climate has led to misperceptions of Muslim women.

That’s why she hopes a new six-week billboard campaign will encourage people to call and ask questions about the hijab, or head scarf.

"It's very difficult at times for Muslim women to go out in public wearing a veil,” said Sadiq, an outreach volunteer with the Dallas Chapter of the Islamic Circle of North America. “We face a lot of discrimination in educational institutions, in the supermarkets and public arenas."

The groups want to show that the hijab is a sign of empowerment and that women of other religions also cover their heads. They point to Mary, the mother of Jesus, who wore a veil, and nuns.

“It is also a form of liberation from strangers who dictate how women should dress in the society to be successful,” Sadiq said. “It’s to free us ourselves from being judged by our physical beauty, but rather our intellect and our character. It’s to preserve our modesty.”




Maybe it isnt a threat guys

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yet folks only get their knickers in a knot when it is Muslim.

As compared to.....?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The groups want to show that the hijab is a sign of empowerment and that women of other religions also cover their heads.

Well of course they do,since they don't have the advantage of a totalitarian,Muslim government at their backs, here in the United States. So they can't tell the truth, and admit it is because they are bound by their religion, under threats of violence and alienation by their patriarchal family and social structure, to follow orders and relieve all the menfolk of their irresistible temptation to rape women with exposed hair.

Let's all be very clear on this.

 

[Coyote]

well doesn't that fall under the 1st amendment?

Yes.

Now, what is your opinion of the message?

Or do you not care?
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Actually. Who cares? Why does it matter? It's a woman's choice in this country how she wishes to observe the dictates of her faith in order to pious.

When it's her choice, great. When it's her husband's choice, not so much.

Either way, it is what it is.
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Yet folks only get their knickers in a knot when it is Muslim.

Sure, religion is intensely partisan now, just like everything else.

Jump with both feet on any perceived advantage. That's where we are.
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Let me challenge you, Mac to stop defaulting to "it is all partisan".

What do you think of the rationale given by the group sponsoring it?

Do women, who desire to conform to the dictates of their faith have that right? Or is it sonehow conditional?

If so...then isnt it a good idea to promote education that dispells some of the popular misconceptions a good thing?

 

[Coyote]

The groups want to show that the hijab is a sign of empowerment and that women of other religions also cover their heads.

Well of course they do,since they don't have the advantage of a totalitarian,Muslim government at their backs, here in the United States. So they can't tell the truth, and admit it is because they are bound by their religion, under threats of violence and alienation by their patriarchal family and social structure, to follow orders and relieve all the menfolk of their irresistible temptation to rape women with exposed hair.

Let's all be very clear on this.

so women who choose to dress modestly and cover their hair per their faith are under threat of violence? Really?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

so women who choose to dress modestly and cover their hair per their faith are under threat of violence?

Oh yes, most of them who do it for islam, absolutely. Without question. And, at best, alienation from their familiies and friends.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And we can talk about, for instance, the FLDS and Amish, too. But this thread is not about them.

 

[Mac1958]

Yes.

Now, what is your opinion of the message?

Or do you not care?
.

Actually. Who cares? Why does it matter? It's a woman's choice in this country how she wishes to observe the dictates of her faith in order to pious.

When it's her choice, great. When it's her husband's choice, not so much.

Either way, it is what it is.
.

Yet folks only get their knickers in a knot when it is Muslim.

Sure, religion is intensely partisan now, just like everything else.

Jump with both feet on any perceived advantage. That's where we are.
.

Let me challenge you, Mac to stop defaulting to "it is all partisan".

What do you think of the rationale given by the group sponsoring it?

Do women, who desire to conform to the dictates of their faith have that right? Or is it sonehow conditional?

If so...then isnt it a good idea to promote education that dispells some of the popular misconceptions a good thing?

As I've already said, if it's the woman's choice to dress according to her faith, great.

If she's "required" to by her husband, or if she otherwise has to dress like that against her will, I'm not real keen on that, and I'd assume you wouldn't be either.

As I've also said, I agree with the Muslims who believe Islam is in desperate need of a Reformation.

I'm not sure what you mean by "...the rationale given by the group sponsoring it?" or "isnt it a good idea to promote education that dispells some of the popular misconceptions a good thing?". Please clarity and I'll respond.
.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

As I've already said, if it's the woman's choice to dress according to her faith, great.

Which they will ALL tell you is the case. All of them. So how to tell?

 

[Mac1958]

As I've already said, if it's the woman's choice to dress according to her faith, great.

Which they will ALL tell you is the case. All of them. So how to tell?

I have no idea. I'd rather just see the religion modernized, but I have no control over that.
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[Dogmaphobe]

Women in Islam do have a choice.

They can choose to wear their slave clothes or else get raped or disfigured.


Those who support the wearing of the slave clothes do so knowing it isn't a genuine choice.

In the middle part of the 19th century, it was not at all uncommon for house slaves to voice contentment with their present situation. This was used as rationale for the continuation of slavery just as it is with Islamist supporters of today in regards to the subjugation of women.

My suggestion for all the Islamist supporters would be to go be another person's piece of property for a while and let us all know how that all works out for them.

 

[Faun]

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Home of the Holy Land Foundation convictions, and The Islamic Association of North Texas, one of the US’s most influential, and it’s affiliate. The Islamic Circle of North America

So what’s wrong with that?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

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Now premiering in the Dallas area.

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Home of the Holy Land Foundation convictions, and The Islamic Association of North Texas, one of the US’s most influential, and it’s affiliate. The Islamic Circle of North America

So what’s wrong with that?

Nothing more than if the kkk put up a billboard promoting slavery for blacks .

 

[Faun]

View attachment 249619

Now premiering in the Dallas area.

https://nypost.com/2019/03/07/musli...hate-calls-for-promoting-hijabs-on-billboard/
Home of the Holy Land Foundation convictions, and The Islamic Association of North Texas, one of the US’s most influential, and it’s affiliate. The Islamic Circle of North America

So what’s wrong with that?

Nothing more than if the kkk put up a billboard promoting slavery for blacks .

Of course that would be diffenent. Seriously, wtf is wrong with you? That would be a bigoted stunt promoting both racism and an illegal act.

But thanks for revealing for the class here that you view Muslims through the myopic lens of bigotry.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

View attachment 249619

Now premiering in the Dallas area.

https://nypost.com/2019/03/07/musli...hate-calls-for-promoting-hijabs-on-billboard/
Home of the Holy Land Foundation convictions, and The Islamic Association of North Texas, one of the US’s most influential, and it’s affiliate. The Islamic Circle of North America

So what’s wrong with that?

Nothing more than if the kkk put up a billboard promoting slavery for blacks .

Of course that would be diffenent. Seriously, wtf is wrong with you? That would be a bigoted stunt promoting both racism and an illegal act.

But thanks for revealing for the class here that you view Muslims through the myopic lens of bigotry.

What is wrong with me is that I am an educated man who does not support misogyny.

You are an uneducated boy who does .

 

[Faun]

View attachment 249619

Now premiering in the Dallas area.

https://nypost.com/2019/03/07/musli...hate-calls-for-promoting-hijabs-on-billboard/
Home of the Holy Land Foundation convictions, and The Islamic Association of North Texas, one of the US’s most influential, and it’s affiliate. The Islamic Circle of North America

So what’s wrong with that?

Nothing more than if the kkk put up a billboard promoting slavery for blacks .

Of course that would be diffenent. Seriously, wtf is wrong with you? That would be a bigoted stunt promoting both racism and an illegal act.

But thanks for revealing for the class here that you view Muslims through the myopic lens of bigotry.

What is wrong with me is that I am an educated man who does not support misogyny.

You are an uneducated boy who does .

Oddly, you sound very uneducated. A hijab is no more a sign of misogyny than a yarmulke is misandristic.

 

[depotoo]

Here is what two Muslim women say about it, source is Washington Post. Maybe then you will understand-
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...idarity/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.47e48a77ac32
For us, as mainstream Muslim women, born in Egypt and India, the spectacle at the mosque was a painful reminder of the well-financed effort by conservative Muslims to dominate modern Muslim societies. This modern-day movement spreads an ideology of political Islam, called “Islamism,” enlisting well-intentioned interfaith do-gooders and the media into promoting the idea that “hijab” is a virtual “sixth pillar” of Islam, after the traditional “five pillars” of the shahada (or proclamation of faith), prayer, fasting, charity and pilgrimage.

We reject this interpretation that the “hijab” is merely a symbol of modesty and dignity adopted by faithful female followers of Islam.

This modern-day movement, codified by Iran, Saudi Arabia, Taliban Afghanistan and the Islamic State, has erroneously made the Arabic word hijab synonymous with “headscarf.” This conflation of hijab with the secular word headscarf is misleading. “Hijab” literally means “curtain” in Arabic. It also means “hiding,” ”obstructing” and “isolating” someone or something. It is never used in the Koran to mean headscarf.

In colloquial Arabic, the word for “headscarf” is tarha. In classical Arabic, “head” is al-ra’as and cover is gheta’a. No matter what formula you use, “hijab” never means headscarf. The media must stop spreading this misleading interpretation.

Born in the 1960s into conservative but open-minded families (Hala in Egypt and Asra in India), we grew up without an edict that we had to cover our hair. But, starting in the 1980s, following the 1979 Iranian revolution of the minority Shiite sect and the rise of well-funded Saudi clerics from the majority Sunni sect, we have been bullied in an attempt to get us to cover our hair from men and boys. Women and girls, who are sometimes called “enforce-hers” and “Muslim mean girls,” take it a step further by even making fun of women whom they perceive as wearing the hijab inappropriately, referring to “hijabis” in skinny jeans as “ho-jabis,” using the indelicate term for “whores.”

But in interpretations from the 7th century to today, theologians, from the late Moroccan scholar Fatima Mernissi to UCLA’s Khaled Abou El Fadl, and Harvard’s Leila Ahmed, Egypt’s Zaki Badawi, Iraq’s Abdullah al Judai and Pakistan’s Javaid Ghamidi, have clearly established that Muslim

Challenging the hijab

To us, the “hijab”is a symbol of an interpretation of Islam we reject that believes that women are a sexual distraction to men, who are weak, and thus must not be tempted by the sight of our hair. We don’t buy it. This ideology promotes a social attitude that absolves men of sexually harassing women and puts the onus on the victim to protect herself by covering up.

The new Muslim Reform Movement, a global network of leaders, advocating for human rights, peace and secular governance, supports the right of Muslim women to wear — or not wear — the headscarf.

Unfortunately, the idea of “hijab” as a mandatory headscarf is promulgated by naïve efforts such as “World Hijab Day,” started in 2013 by Nazma Khan, the Bangladeshi American owner of a Brooklyn-based headscarf company, and Ahlul Bayt, a Shiite-proselytizing TV station, that the University of Calgary, in southwest Canada, promotes as a resource for its participation in “World Hijab Day.” The TV station argues that wearing a “hijab” is necessary for women to avoid “unwanted attention.” World Hijab Day, Ahlul Bayt and the University of Calgary didn’t respond to requests for comment.

In its “resources,” Ahluly Bayt includes a link to the notion that “the woman is awrah,” or forbidden, an idea that leads to the confinement, subordination, silencing and subjugation of women’s voices and presence in public society. It also includes an article, “The top 10 excuses of Muslim women who don’t wear hijab and their obvious weaknesses,” with the argument, “Get on the train of repentance, my sister, before it passes by your station.”

The rush to cover women’s hair has reached a fever pitch with ultraconservative Muslim websites and organizations pushing this interpretation, such as VirtualMosque.com and Al-Islam.org, which even published a feature, “Hijab Jokes,” mocking Muslim women who don’t cover their hair “Islamically.”

View attachment 249619

Now premiering in the Dallas area.

https://nypost.com/2019/03/07/musli...hate-calls-for-promoting-hijabs-on-billboard/
Home of the Holy Land Foundation convictions, and The Islamic Association of North Texas, one of the US’s most influential, and it’s affiliate. The Islamic Circle of North America

So what’s wrong with that?

Nothing more than if the kkk put up a billboard promoting slavery for blacks .

Of course that would be diffenent. Seriously, wtf is wrong with you? That would be a bigoted stunt promoting both racism and an illegal act.

But thanks for revealing for the class here that you view Muslims through the myopic lens of bigotry.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

View attachment 249619

Now premiering in the Dallas area.

https://nypost.com/2019/03/07/musli...hate-calls-for-promoting-hijabs-on-billboard/
Home of the Holy Land Foundation convictions, and The Islamic Association of North Texas, one of the US’s most influential, and it’s affiliate. The Islamic Circle of North America

So what’s wrong with that?

Nothing more than if the kkk put up a billboard promoting slavery for blacks .

Of course that would be diffenent. Seriously, wtf is wrong with you? That would be a bigoted stunt promoting both racism and an illegal act.

But thanks for revealing for the class here that you view Muslims through the myopic lens of bigotry.

What is wrong with me is that I am an educated man who does not support misogyny.

You are an uneducated boy who does .

Oddly, you sound very uneducated. A hijab is no more a sign of misogyny than a yarmulke is misandristic.

So , that's why Islamic women cite the fact that wearing it protects them from rape.

It's because there is no misogyny involved.

Have you even finished high school, boy?

 

[Faun]

Here is what two Muslim women say about it, source is Washington Post. Maybe then you will understand-
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...idarity/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.47e48a77ac32
For us, as mainstream Muslim women, born in Egypt and India, the spectacle at the mosque was a painful reminder of the well-financed effort by conservative Muslims to dominate modern Muslim societies. This modern-day movement spreads an ideology of political Islam, called “Islamism,” enlisting well-intentioned interfaith do-gooders and the media into promoting the idea that “hijab” is a virtual “sixth pillar” of Islam, after the traditional “five pillars” of the shahada (or proclamation of faith), prayer, fasting, charity and pilgrimage.

We reject this interpretation that the “hijab” is merely a symbol of modesty and dignity adopted by faithful female followers of Islam.

This modern-day movement, codified by Iran, Saudi Arabia, Taliban Afghanistan and the Islamic State, has erroneously made the Arabic word hijab synonymous with “headscarf.” This conflation of hijab with the secular word headscarf is misleading. “Hijab” literally means “curtain” in Arabic. It also means “hiding,” ”obstructing” and “isolating” someone or something. It is never used in the Koran to mean headscarf.

In colloquial Arabic, the word for “headscarf” is tarha. In classical Arabic, “head” is al-ra’as and cover is gheta’a. No matter what formula you use, “hijab” never means headscarf. The media must stop spreading this misleading interpretation.

Born in the 1960s into conservative but open-minded families (Hala in Egypt and Asra in India), we grew up without an edict that we had to cover our hair. But, starting in the 1980s, following the 1979 Iranian revolution of the minority Shiite sect and the rise of well-funded Saudi clerics from the majority Sunni sect, we have been bullied in an attempt to get us to cover our hair from men and boys. Women and girls, who are sometimes called “enforce-hers” and “Muslim mean girls,” take it a step further by even making fun of women whom they perceive as wearing the hijab inappropriately, referring to “hijabis” in skinny jeans as “ho-jabis,” using the indelicate term for “whores.”

But in interpretations from the 7th century to today, theologians, from the late Moroccan scholar Fatima Mernissi to UCLA’s Khaled Abou El Fadl, and Harvard’s Leila Ahmed, Egypt’s Zaki Badawi, Iraq’s Abdullah al Judai and Pakistan’s Javaid Ghamidi, have clearly established that Muslim

Challenging the hijab

To us, the “hijab”is a symbol of an interpretation of Islam we reject that believes that women are a sexual distraction to men, who are weak, and thus must not be tempted by the sight of our hair. We don’t buy it. This ideology promotes a social attitude that absolves men of sexually harassing women and puts the onus on the victim to protect herself by covering up.

The new Muslim Reform Movement, a global network of leaders, advocating for human rights, peace and secular governance, supports the right of Muslim women to wear — or not wear — the headscarf.

Unfortunately, the idea of “hijab” as a mandatory headscarf is promulgated by naïve efforts such as “World Hijab Day,” started in 2013 by Nazma Khan, the Bangladeshi American owner of a Brooklyn-based headscarf company, and Ahlul Bayt, a Shiite-proselytizing TV station, that the University of Calgary, in southwest Canada, promotes as a resource for its participation in “World Hijab Day.” The TV station argues that wearing a “hijab” is necessary for women to avoid “unwanted attention.” World Hijab Day, Ahlul Bayt and the University of Calgary didn’t respond to requests for comment.

In its “resources,” Ahluly Bayt includes a link to the notion that “the woman is awrah,” or forbidden, an idea that leads to the confinement, subordination, silencing and subjugation of women’s voices and presence in public society. It also includes an article, “The top 10 excuses of Muslim women who don’t wear hijab and their obvious weaknesses,” with the argument, “Get on the train of repentance, my sister, before it passes by your station.”

The rush to cover women’s hair has reached a fever pitch with ultraconservative Muslim websites and organizations pushing this interpretation, such as VirtualMosque.com and Al-Islam.org, which even published a feature, “Hijab Jokes,” mocking Muslim women who don’t cover their hair “Islamically.”

View attachment 249619

Now premiering in the Dallas area.

https://nypost.com/2019/03/07/musli...hate-calls-for-promoting-hijabs-on-billboard/
Home of the Holy Land Foundation convictions, and The Islamic Association of North Texas, one of the US’s most influential, and it’s affiliate. The Islamic Circle of North America

So what’s wrong with that?

Nothing more than if the kkk put up a billboard promoting slavery for blacks .

Of course that would be diffenent. Seriously, wtf is wrong with you? That would be a bigoted stunt promoting both racism and an illegal act.

But thanks for revealing for the class here that you view Muslims through the myopic lens of bigotry.

So? That’s their opinion. Omar, who chooses to wear a hijab, believes differently, as do many American-Muslim women.

 

[Faun]

So what’s wrong with that?

Nothing more than if the kkk put up a billboard promoting slavery for blacks .

Of course that would be diffenent. Seriously, wtf is wrong with you? That would be a bigoted stunt promoting both racism and an illegal act.

But thanks for revealing for the class here that you view Muslims through the myopic lens of bigotry.

What is wrong with me is that I am an educated man who does not support misogyny.

You are an uneducated boy who does .

Oddly, you sound very uneducated. A hijab is no more a sign of misogyny than a yarmulke is misandristic.

So , that's why Islamic women cite the fact that wearing it protects them from rape.

It's because there is no misogyny involved.

Have you even finished high school, boy?

LOL

Lemme guess... you convinced yourself that riposte actually redeemed the blatant bigotry you just exhibited.