Bend over Farmers

[Timmy]

Do we HAVE to feed city folks?

No but its profitable. Do you NEED money?

EBT not accepted.....

You know farm subsidies are also tied to the welfare budget .

 

[owebo]

Do we HAVE to feed city folks?

No but its profitable. Do you NEED money?

EBT not accepted.....

You know farm subsidies are also tied to the welfare budget .

Not for long.....

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The OP is a lie. Only the factory farm industry wants TPP. Not family farmers.

Nearly 200,000 family farmers fighting back against TPP
Published on Apr 27, 2016
US trade officials are promoting the Transpacific Trade Partnership (TPP) as an export boom for US agriculture. But National Farmers Union is standing strong against it. To explain why he thinks the TPP is a bad deal for farmers, National Farmers Union President Roger Johnson joins ‘News With Ed.’

The Democrat estate taxation laws were supposed to do away with the family farm.

 

[easyt65]

It is no secret that the rural vote helped Trump win. Farmers. Farmers voted for Trump. Farmers love NAFTA & Farmers want the TPP (as it is expected to add billions in business to farmers).

Do you actually have anything other than your own opinion to support any of this?

Something like THIS:

TPP: An Outrage for Family Farmers & Our Food – Farm Aid


"A nightmare for food safety
The TPP includes first-of-its-kind language allowing corporations to challenge U.S. food inspection protocols and decisions. Consumer advocates warn the TPP could quell efforts to keep out unsafe foods that don’t meet the same standards U.S. farmers and ranchers are required to meet.

Good for meatpackers, bad for ranchers
Under the TPP, the origin of beef is wherever the animal is slaughtered. So if it’s grown in America, but slaughtered in Japan, it’s Japanese beef. That reduces U.S. ranchers to anonymous widgets in the global supply chain, and makes it impossible for us to know if we’re really supporting American farmers when we shop at the grocery store. The TPP will also weaken health and safety standards regarding meatpacking plant inspections, livestock diseases, and food safety protocols to facilitate imports from countries lacking the resources to meet the high standards U.S. ranchers must reach."

 

[Timmy]

The OP is a lie. Only the factory farm industry wants TPP. Not family farmers.

Nearly 200,000 family farmers fighting back against TPP
Published on Apr 27, 2016
US trade officials are promoting the Transpacific Trade Partnership (TPP) as an export boom for US agriculture. But National Farmers Union is standing strong against it. To explain why he thinks the TPP is a bad deal for farmers, National Farmers Union President Roger Johnson joins ‘News With Ed.’

The Democrat estate taxation laws were supposed to do away with the family farm.

How so? The inheritance tax that kicks in after $10,000,000? Yes, that's the destruction of the family farm!

 

[tinydancer]

On one hand liberals are supposed to care about the "little guy" . But they back TPP which only benefits the corporate farm industry.

It's freaking nuts.

 

[easyt65]

'Farmers LOVE TTP'?

Farmers and Ranchers to Congress: Reject the TPP!

 

[RealDave]

It is no secret that the rural vote helped Trump win. Farmers. Farmers voted for Trump. Farmers love NAFTA & Farmers want the TPP (as it is expected to add billions in business to farmers).

Do you actually have anything other than your own opinion to support any of this?

Something like THIS:

TPP: An Outrage for Family Farmers & Our Food – Farm Aid


"A nightmare for food safety
The TPP includes first-of-its-kind language allowing corporations to challenge U.S. food inspection protocols and decisions. Consumer advocates warn the TPP could quell efforts to keep out unsafe foods that don’t meet the same standards U.S. farmers and ranchers are required to meet.

Good for meatpackers, bad for ranchers
Under the TPP, the origin of beef is wherever the animal is slaughtered. So if it’s grown in America, but slaughtered in Japan, it’s Japanese beef. That reduces U.S. ranchers to anonymous widgets in the global supply chain, and makes it impossible for us to know if we’re really supporting American farmers when we shop at the grocery store. The TPP will also weaken health and safety standards regarding meatpacking plant inspections, livestock diseases, and food safety protocols to facilitate imports from countries lacking the resources to meet the high standards U.S. ranchers must reach."

How many ranchers slaughter their own cattle?

I mean really, can you get more ridiculous?

And the TPP allows the US to challenge regulations on other countries. Leveling the playing field so some countries don't ban US products.

In really, how many local small farmers export? Wouldn't they prefer the big agricultural companies export their crops rather than compete with them in local markets?

Again, a totally ridiculous argument.

 

[owebo]

The OP is a lie. Only the factory farm industry wants TPP. Not family farmers.

Nearly 200,000 family farmers fighting back against TPP
Published on Apr 27, 2016
US trade officials are promoting the Transpacific Trade Partnership (TPP) as an export boom for US agriculture. But National Farmers Union is standing strong against it. To explain why he thinks the TPP is a bad deal for farmers, National Farmers Union President Roger Johnson joins ‘News With Ed.’

The Democrat estate taxation laws were supposed to do away with the family farm.

And create the monster corporate farm.....

 

[RealDave]

It is no secret that the rural vote helped Trump win. Farmers. Farmers voted for Trump.

Farmers love NAFTA & Farmers want the TPP (as it is expected to add billions in business to farmers).

Donald has promised to end the TPP on day one & railed against NAFTA.

So Mr Greenjeans, grab that Vasoline & bend over because you got what you voted for.

I expect nearly 100% of the regulations on farmers will be eliminated....it will be a hay day like never seen before.....

And you are a moron. We trade now around the globe & guess what? We have regulations.

 

[owebo]

It is no secret that the rural vote helped Trump win. Farmers. Farmers voted for Trump.

Farmers love NAFTA & Farmers want the TPP (as it is expected to add billions in business to farmers).

Donald has promised to end the TPP on day one & railed against NAFTA.

So Mr Greenjeans, grab that Vasoline & bend over because you got what you voted for.

I expect nearly 100% of the regulations on farmers will be eliminated....it will be a hay day like never seen before.....

And you are a moron. We trade now around the globe & guess what? We have regulations.

They will be gone soon....

 

[tinydancer]

It is no secret that the rural vote helped Trump win. Farmers. Farmers voted for Trump. Farmers love NAFTA & Farmers want the TPP (as it is expected to add billions in business to farmers).

Do you actually have anything other than your own opinion to support any of this?

Something like THIS:

TPP: An Outrage for Family Farmers & Our Food – Farm Aid


"A nightmare for food safety
The TPP includes first-of-its-kind language allowing corporations to challenge U.S. food inspection protocols and decisions. Consumer advocates warn the TPP could quell efforts to keep out unsafe foods that don’t meet the same standards U.S. farmers and ranchers are required to meet.

Good for meatpackers, bad for ranchers
Under the TPP, the origin of beef is wherever the animal is slaughtered. So if it’s grown in America, but slaughtered in Japan, it’s Japanese beef. That reduces U.S. ranchers to anonymous widgets in the global supply chain, and makes it impossible for us to know if we’re really supporting American farmers when we shop at the grocery store. The TPP will also weaken health and safety standards regarding meatpacking plant inspections, livestock diseases, and food safety protocols to facilitate imports from countries lacking the resources to meet the high standards U.S. ranchers must reach."

How many ranchers slaughter their own cattle?

I mean really, can you get more ridiculous?

And the TPP allows the US to challenge regulations on other countries. Leveling the playing field so some countries don't ban US products.

In really, how many local small farmers export? Wouldn't they prefer the big agricultural companies export their crops rather than compete with them in local markets?

Again, a totally ridiculous argument.

TPP destroys Food Sovereignty. It's a big fucking deal.

 

[RealDave]

The EPA law that found naturally occurring dust to be a pollutant will be overturned. Farmers will be ecstatic.

You think dust is not a pollutant? There was a family who had just built a home & a factory pig farm moved in next door. They lived on a dirt road. The people hauling & spreading the pig shit created quite a foul odor & kicked up a lot of dust.

The dust clogged that family's air conditioning & with the stench, they couldn't open the windows. They sold their home at a huge loss & moved elsewhere.

 

[RealDave]

It is no secret that the rural vote helped Trump win. Farmers. Farmers voted for Trump. Farmers love NAFTA & Farmers want the TPP (as it is expected to add billions in business to farmers).

Do you actually have anything other than your own opinion to support any of this?

Something like THIS:

TPP: An Outrage for Family Farmers & Our Food – Farm Aid


"A nightmare for food safety
The TPP includes first-of-its-kind language allowing corporations to challenge U.S. food inspection protocols and decisions. Consumer advocates warn the TPP could quell efforts to keep out unsafe foods that don’t meet the same standards U.S. farmers and ranchers are required to meet.

Good for meatpackers, bad for ranchers
Under the TPP, the origin of beef is wherever the animal is slaughtered. So if it’s grown in America, but slaughtered in Japan, it’s Japanese beef. That reduces U.S. ranchers to anonymous widgets in the global supply chain, and makes it impossible for us to know if we’re really supporting American farmers when we shop at the grocery store. The TPP will also weaken health and safety standards regarding meatpacking plant inspections, livestock diseases, and food safety protocols to facilitate imports from countries lacking the resources to meet the high standards U.S. ranchers must reach."

How many ranchers slaughter their own cattle?

I mean really, can you get more ridiculous?

And the TPP allows the US to challenge regulations on other countries. Leveling the playing field so some countries don't ban US products.

In really, how many local small farmers export? Wouldn't they prefer the big agricultural companies export their crops rather than compete with them in local markets?

Again, a totally ridiculous argument.

TPP destroys Food Sovereignty. It's a big fucking deal.

No it doesn't. We trade around the world now. The TPP has no effect on the laws within the US.

 

[owebo]

The EPA law that found naturally occurring dust to be a pollutant will be overturned. Farmers will be ecstatic.

You think dust is not a pollutant? There was a family who had just built a home & a factory pig farm moved in next door. They lived on a dirt road. The people hauling & spreading the pig shit created quite a foul odor & kicked up a lot of dust.

The dust clogged that family's air conditioning & with the stench, they couldn't open the windows. They sold their home at a huge loss & moved elsewhere.

Your fascist days of forcing yourselves into people's business is going to come to a screeching halt in 42 days.....

 

[owebo]

It is no secret that the rural vote helped Trump win. Farmers. Farmers voted for Trump. Farmers love NAFTA & Farmers want the TPP (as it is expected to add billions in business to farmers).

Do you actually have anything other than your own opinion to support any of this?

Something like THIS:

TPP: An Outrage for Family Farmers & Our Food – Farm Aid


"A nightmare for food safety
The TPP includes first-of-its-kind language allowing corporations to challenge U.S. food inspection protocols and decisions. Consumer advocates warn the TPP could quell efforts to keep out unsafe foods that don’t meet the same standards U.S. farmers and ranchers are required to meet.

Good for meatpackers, bad for ranchers
Under the TPP, the origin of beef is wherever the animal is slaughtered. So if it’s grown in America, but slaughtered in Japan, it’s Japanese beef. That reduces U.S. ranchers to anonymous widgets in the global supply chain, and makes it impossible for us to know if we’re really supporting American farmers when we shop at the grocery store. The TPP will also weaken health and safety standards regarding meatpacking plant inspections, livestock diseases, and food safety protocols to facilitate imports from countries lacking the resources to meet the high standards U.S. ranchers must reach."

How many ranchers slaughter their own cattle?

I mean really, can you get more ridiculous?

And the TPP allows the US to challenge regulations on other countries. Leveling the playing field so some countries don't ban US products.

In really, how many local small farmers export? Wouldn't they prefer the big agricultural companies export their crops rather than compete with them in local markets?

Again, a totally ridiculous argument.

TPP destroys Food Sovereignty. It's a big fucking deal.

Yep....in nationalizes food....a very bad thing.....

 

[RealDave]

It is no secret that the rural vote helped Trump win. Farmers. Farmers voted for Trump. Farmers love NAFTA & Farmers want the TPP (as it is expected to add billions in business to farmers).

Do you actually have anything other than your own opinion to support any of this?

Something like THIS:

TPP: An Outrage for Family Farmers & Our Food – Farm Aid


"A nightmare for food safety
The TPP includes first-of-its-kind language allowing corporations to challenge U.S. food inspection protocols and decisions. Consumer advocates warn the TPP could quell efforts to keep out unsafe foods that don’t meet the same standards U.S. farmers and ranchers are required to meet.

Good for meatpackers, bad for ranchers
Under the TPP, the origin of beef is wherever the animal is slaughtered. So if it’s grown in America, but slaughtered in Japan, it’s Japanese beef. That reduces U.S. ranchers to anonymous widgets in the global supply chain, and makes it impossible for us to know if we’re really supporting American farmers when we shop at the grocery store. The TPP will also weaken health and safety standards regarding meatpacking plant inspections, livestock diseases, and food safety protocols to facilitate imports from countries lacking the resources to meet the high standards U.S. ranchers must reach."

How many ranchers slaughter their own cattle?

I mean really, can you get more ridiculous?

And the TPP allows the US to challenge regulations on other countries. Leveling the playing field so some countries don't ban US products.

In really, how many local small farmers export? Wouldn't they prefer the big agricultural companies export their crops rather than compete with them in local markets?

Again, a totally ridiculous argument.

TPP destroys Food Sovereignty. It's a big fucking deal.

Yep....in nationalizes food....a very bad thing.....

How trhe fucjk does a trade deal do that.

 

[RealDave]

The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) levels the playing field for American workers and American
businesses, leading to more Made-in-America exports and more higher-paying American jobs
here at home. By cutting over 18,000 taxes various countries put on Made-in-America prod
-
ucts, TPP makes sure our farmers, ranchers, manufacturers and small businesses can compete—
and win—in some of the fastest growing markets in the world. With more than 95 percent of
the world’s consumers living outside our borders, TPP will significantly expand the export of
Made-in-America goods and services and support American jobs.
Benefits for U.S. Agriculture
America’s farmers and ranchers are among the most productive in the world, and they depend
on exports. Roughly 20% percent of U.S. farm income comes from agricultural exports, and those
exports help to support rural communities across the country. However, foreign taxes on our ag
-
ricultural exports are often very high, much higher than foreign taxes on other exports. TPP will
open foreign markets to U.S. food and agriculture, providing new and commercially meaningful
market access and advancing regulations that are transparent and based on science.
HOW TPP BENEFITS U.S. AGRICULTURE
TPP will help support U.S. agriculture by:
•
Eliminating foreign taxes in the form of tariffs on the vast majority of U.S.
exports of food and agricultural products
. For example, agricultural tariff
rates average 19 percent in Japan and
16 percent in Vietnam
. Some products
have
peak tariffs of over 300 percent
or more.
•
Providing
new and commercially meaningful market access
through
significant tariff reductions or preferential tariff rate quotas for the remaining
products.
•
Requiring TPP countries to
eliminate all agricultural export subsidies.

 

[owebo]

It is no secret that the rural vote helped Trump win. Farmers. Farmers voted for Trump. Farmers love NAFTA & Farmers want the TPP (as it is expected to add billions in business to farmers).

Do you actually have anything other than your own opinion to support any of this?

Something like THIS:

TPP: An Outrage for Family Farmers & Our Food – Farm Aid


"A nightmare for food safety
The TPP includes first-of-its-kind language allowing corporations to challenge U.S. food inspection protocols and decisions. Consumer advocates warn the TPP could quell efforts to keep out unsafe foods that don’t meet the same standards U.S. farmers and ranchers are required to meet.

Good for meatpackers, bad for ranchers
Under the TPP, the origin of beef is wherever the animal is slaughtered. So if it’s grown in America, but slaughtered in Japan, it’s Japanese beef. That reduces U.S. ranchers to anonymous widgets in the global supply chain, and makes it impossible for us to know if we’re really supporting American farmers when we shop at the grocery store. The TPP will also weaken health and safety standards regarding meatpacking plant inspections, livestock diseases, and food safety protocols to facilitate imports from countries lacking the resources to meet the high standards U.S. ranchers must reach."

How many ranchers slaughter their own cattle?

I mean really, can you get more ridiculous?

And the TPP allows the US to challenge regulations on other countries. Leveling the playing field so some countries don't ban US products.

In really, how many local small farmers export? Wouldn't they prefer the big agricultural companies export their crops rather than compete with them in local markets?

Again, a totally ridiculous argument.

TPP destroys Food Sovereignty. It's a big fucking deal.

Yep....in nationalizes food....a very bad thing.....

How trhe fucjk does a trade deal do that.

By allowing other countries to dictate our business beyond the limits of our constitution....

You go to public school by chance?

 

[owebo]

The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) levels the playing field for American workers and American
businesses, leading to more Made-in-America exports and more higher-paying American jobs
here at home. By cutting over 18,000 taxes various countries put on Made-in-America prod
-
ucts, TPP makes sure our farmers, ranchers, manufacturers and small businesses can compete—
and win—in some of the fastest growing markets in the world. With more than 95 percent of
the world’s consumers living outside our borders, TPP will significantly expand the export of
Made-in-America goods and services and support American jobs.
Benefits for U.S. Agriculture
America’s farmers and ranchers are among the most productive in the world, and they depend
on exports. Roughly 20% percent of U.S. farm income comes from agricultural exports, and those
exports help to support rural communities across the country. However, foreign taxes on our ag
-
ricultural exports are often very high, much higher than foreign taxes on other exports. TPP will
open foreign markets to U.S. food and agriculture, providing new and commercially meaningful
market access and advancing regulations that are transparent and based on science.
HOW TPP BENEFITS U.S. AGRICULTURE
TPP will help support U.S. agriculture by:
•
Eliminating foreign taxes in the form of tariffs on the vast majority of U.S.
exports of food and agricultural products
. For example, agricultural tariff
rates average 19 percent in Japan and
16 percent in Vietnam
. Some products
have
peak tariffs of over 300 percent
or more.
•
Providing
new and commercially meaningful market access
through
significant tariff reductions or preferential tariff rate quotas for the remaining
products.
•
Requiring TPP countries to
eliminate all agricultural export subsidies.

It's a moot point....it's dead....