Barack Hussein Obama

Did you not ask for feedback?

Damn, why you got to be such a baby about it?

Are we not having an adult conversation here???

WTF?

Stop crying. I was polite in my response, I don't know why you are so upset.

And the large font is irritating.

ok.... look.... I meesed up and thought it was you on both posts...

Big mistake.... can we start over? :tomato:


And the font is because everybody kept telling me they could not see my writing, said it was too small.... ugh, I cant win for losing :confused:

Start over.
 
Did you not ask for feedback?

Damn, why you got to be such a baby about it?

Are we not having an adult conversation here???

WTF?

Stop crying. I was polite in my response, I don't know why you are so upset.

And the large font is irritating.

ok.... look.... I meesed up and thought it was you on both posts...

Big mistake.... can we start over? :tomato:


And the font is because everybody kept telling me they could not see my writing, said it was too small.... ugh, I cant win for losing :confused:

Trying to please everyone will only make you as sick as they are.
 
I'm not seeing much feedback on my points.


Ok... Its your turn.

The accomplishments you listed have done nothing good in my opinion.
Repealing DADT... How is that beneficial to MOST Americans?

His support of SSM... What exactly has he changed legislatively for "gays"?

The American Jobs Act, so what if it got killed by the Republicans?
What good would it have done?

We have NO IDEA what good the ACA will do... it is not in full affect till 2014, and I wonder why that is.... :eusa_think:

Im sorry BD, but I just dont see how Obama has "helped" America as a country.
Sure he is carrying out the liberal agenda, and attempting to "fundamentally change America", but what good is he doing for us as a whole?

I already spoke my truth. If you're going to blow off every last word, fair game, then. We have nothing further to discuss.

The problem is you made issue of people not giving you feedback. You gave near meaningless points that can’t even be measured as accomplishments.

If my goal was to mow the lawn and make it healthy but I instead cut the lawn to low with dull blades ripping the grass so that much of the lawn died did I accomplish my goal?

You use Obamacare as if it has lived up to a single benchmark Obama and his team set. The Stimulus and Obamacare both failed to do ANYTHING they claimed, so you and they count passing of the bills as the accomplishment instead of fixing the issue.

Obamacare’s goal was to immediately lower HC costs and create jobs, in fact there are less jobs and HC costs are growing faster now due to Obamacare. So the accomplishment of passing the bill is meaningless if the accomplishment of fixing the problem never happens.

You asked for feedback on talking points, if you don't like that feedback it's your choice to blow off every last word.

I quickly got a video to show Obama talking about HC costs and Obamacare, I don't care if you like the video or what the Video is about.
 
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Obama has failed but he meant well, which is all Americans need to know to give him another term. And don't you dare call him Barack Hussein Obama. Some of his supporters are offended by that.
 
Ok... Its your turn.

The accomplishments you listed have done nothing good in my opinion.
Repealing DADT... How is that beneficial to MOST Americans?

His support of SSM... What exactly has he changed legislatively for "gays"?

The American Jobs Act, so what if it got killed by the Republicans?
What good would it have done?

We have NO IDEA what good the ACA will do... it is not in full affect till 2014, and I wonder why that is.... :eusa_think:

Im sorry BD, but I just dont see how Obama has "helped" America as a country.
Sure he is carrying out the liberal agenda, and attempting to "fundamentally change America", but what good is he doing for us as a whole?

I already spoke my truth. If you're going to blow off every last word, fair game, then. We have nothing further to discuss.

The problem is you made issue of people not giving you feedback. You gave near meaningless points that can’t even be measured as accomplishments.

If my goal was to mow the lawn and make it healthy but I instead cut the lawn to low with dull blades ripping the grass so that much of the lawn died did I accomplish my goal?

You use Obamacare as if it has lived up to a single benchmark Obama and his team set. The Stimulus and Obamacare both failed to do ANYTHING they claimed, so you and they count passing of the bills as the accomplishment instead of fixing the issue.

Obamacare’s goal was to immediately lower HC costs and create jobs, in fact there are less jobs and HC costs are growing faster now due to Obamacare. So the accomplishment of passing the bill is meaningless if the accomplishment of fixing the problem never happens.

You asked for feedback on talking points, if you don't like that feedback it's your choice to blow off every last word.

Exactly.

But I never mentioned the stimulus.

My mouse is behaving badly, so until I can get a new one, C&P is not really my friend. But visit the following link, with citations for every line, to see why I believe as I do.

A LONG List of President Obama’s Accomplishments! With Citations! | Addicting Info

Edit: Finally got the mouse to click & grab - at least once.

Treating Soldiers and Veterans with Respect

He made sure that families of fallen soldiers could be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB, by providing funding for it. He also ended the media blackout on coverage of the return of fallen soldiers.http://nyti.ms/glqN66 http://bbc.in/gWSSkA

He funded Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with an extra $1.4 billion to improve veterans’ services. http://1.usa.gov/huhqfo

He provided the troops with better body armor. http://bit.ly/hzSv2h

Created the Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Record program for military personnel, in order to improve the quality of their medical care. http://1.usa.gov/f4yaxW

He put an end to the Bush-era stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan beyond their enlistment date. (personal note: my son will be in harm’s way for six fewer months with Obama as president, so you know I love this one). http://nyti.ms/e2YQ7Q

He supported and signed the Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act, which made more money available to enable better medical care for veterans. http://1.usa.gov/fN4ur1

He ushered through the largest spending increase in 30 years for the Department of Veterans Affairs for improved medical facilities, and to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing homes and extended care facilities. http://1.usa.gov/gY8O3x

He created the Green Vet Initiative, which provided special funding to the Labor Department to provide veterans with training in green jobs. http://bit.ly/epwUQY

He oversaw a $4.6 billion expansion of the Veterans Administration budget to pay for more mental health professionals. http://bit.ly/gjzTxX

Education

He has repeatedly increased funding for student financial aid, and at the same time cut the banks completely out of the process. http://bit.ly/gYWd30 http://bit.ly/e9c7Dr http://bit.ly/eEzTNq

Completely reformed the student loan program, to make it possible for students to refinance at a lower rate. http://nyti.ms/dMvHOt

Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act , he invested heavily in elementary, secondary and post-secondary education. http://1.usa.gov/gGRIAr This includes a major expansion of broadband availability in K-12 schools nationwide http://bit.ly/fNDcj3 , as well as an expansion in school construction. http://bit.ly/fYwNrV

Also through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he put $5 billion into early education, including Head Start. http://1.usa.gov/tzT2Rr

Signed the Post-9/11 GI Bill, also known as GI Bill 2.0 http://bit.ly/hPhG7J

He oversaw expansion of the Pell Grants program, to expand opportunity for low-income students to go to college. http://bit.ly/hI6tXz

He passed the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, which provided an extra $12.2 billion in funds. http://1.usa.gov/dQvtUe
 
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I already spoke my truth. If you're going to blow off every last word, fair game, then. We have nothing further to discuss.

The problem is you made issue of people not giving you feedback. You gave near meaningless points that can’t even be measured as accomplishments.

If my goal was to mow the lawn and make it healthy but I instead cut the lawn to low with dull blades ripping the grass so that much of the lawn died did I accomplish my goal?

You use Obamacare as if it has lived up to a single benchmark Obama and his team set. The Stimulus and Obamacare both failed to do ANYTHING they claimed, so you and they count passing of the bills as the accomplishment instead of fixing the issue.

Obamacare’s goal was to immediately lower HC costs and create jobs, in fact there are less jobs and HC costs are growing faster now due to Obamacare. So the accomplishment of passing the bill is meaningless if the accomplishment of fixing the problem never happens.

You asked for feedback on talking points, if you don't like that feedback it's your choice to blow off every last word.

Exactly.

But I never mentioned the stimulus.

My mouse is behaving badly, so until I can get a new one, C&P is not really my friend. But visit the following link, with citations for every line, to see why I believe as I do.

A LONG List of President Obama’s Accomplishments! With Citations! | Addicting Info

Edit: Finally got the mouse to click & grab - at least once.

Treating Soldiers and Veterans with Respect

He made sure that families of fallen soldiers could be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB, by providing funding for it. He also ended the media blackout on coverage of the return of fallen soldiers.Pentagon Will Help Families Travel to Dover - NYTimes.com BBC NEWS | Americas | US war dead media blackout lifted

He funded Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with an extra $1.4 billion to improve veterans’ services. Veterans | The White House

He provided the troops with better body armor. Obama wants another $83 billion for Iraq, Afghanistan - CNN

Created the Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Record program for military personnel, in order to improve the quality of their medical care. http://1.usa.gov/f4yaxW

He put an end to the Bush-era stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan beyond their enlistment date. (personal note: my son will be in harm’s way for six fewer months with Obama as president, so you know I love this one). http://nyti.ms/e2YQ7Q

He supported and signed the Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act, which made more money available to enable better medical care for veterans. http://1.usa.gov/fN4ur1

He ushered through the largest spending increase in 30 years for the Department of Veterans Affairs for improved medical facilities, and to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing homes and extended care facilities. President Obama

He created the Green Vet Initiative, which provided special funding to the Labor Department to provide veterans with training in green jobs. PolitiFact | The Obameter: Create a 'Green Vet Initiative' to promote environmental jobs for veterans

He oversaw a $4.6 billion expansion of the Veterans Administration budget to pay for more mental health professionals. Our Products - VA Office of Budget

Education

He has repeatedly increased funding for student financial aid, and at the same time cut the banks completely out of the process. PolitiFact | The Obameter: Expand Pell grants for low-income students Obama http://bit.ly/eEzTNq

Completely reformed the student loan program, to make it possible for students to refinance at a lower rate. http://nyti.ms/dMvHOt

Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act , he invested heavily in elementary, secondary and post-secondary education. Education | The White House This includes a major expansion of broadband availability in K-12 schools nationwide Obama announces new U.S. broadband connection funding - CNN , as well as an expansion in school construction. Obama: Education Money Must Come With Reform - Politics K-12 - Education Week

Also through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he put $5 billion into early education, including Head Start. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009: Education Jobs and Reform

Signed the Post-9/11 GI Bill, also known as GI Bill 2.0 http://bit.ly/hPhG7J

He oversaw expansion of the Pell Grants program, to expand opportunity for low-income students to go to college. PolitiFact | The Obameter: Expand Pell grants for low-income students

He passed the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, which provided an extra $12.2 billion in funds. American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009: IDEA Recovery Funds for Services to Children and Youths with Disabilities

You can use your keyboard to C&P
 
I already spoke my truth. If you're going to blow off every last word, fair game, then. We have nothing further to discuss.

The problem is you made issue of people not giving you feedback. You gave near meaningless points that can’t even be measured as accomplishments.

If my goal was to mow the lawn and make it healthy but I instead cut the lawn to low with dull blades ripping the grass so that much of the lawn died did I accomplish my goal?

You use Obamacare as if it has lived up to a single benchmark Obama and his team set. The Stimulus and Obamacare both failed to do ANYTHING they claimed, so you and they count passing of the bills as the accomplishment instead of fixing the issue.

Obamacare’s goal was to immediately lower HC costs and create jobs, in fact there are less jobs and HC costs are growing faster now due to Obamacare. So the accomplishment of passing the bill is meaningless if the accomplishment of fixing the problem never happens.

You asked for feedback on talking points, if you don't like that feedback it's your choice to blow off every last word.

Exactly.

But I never mentioned the stimulus.

My mouse is behaving badly, so until I can get a new one, C&P is not really my friend. But visit the following link, with citations for every line, to see why I believe as I do.

A LONG List of President Obama’s Accomplishments! With Citations! | Addicting Info

Edit: Finally got the mouse to click & grab - at least once.

Treating Soldiers and Veterans with Respect

He made sure that families of fallen soldiers could be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB, by providing funding for it. He also ended the media blackout on coverage of the return of fallen soldiers.Pentagon Will Help Families Travel to Dover - NYTimes.com BBC NEWS | Americas | US war dead media blackout lifted

He funded Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with an extra $1.4 billion to improve veterans’ services. Veterans | The White House

He provided the troops with better body armor. Obama wants another $83 billion for Iraq, Afghanistan - CNN

Created the Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Record program for military personnel, in order to improve the quality of their medical care. "The Care They Were Promised and the Benefits That They Have Earned" | The White House

He put an end to the Bush-era stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan beyond their enlistment date. (personal note: my son will be in harm’s way for six fewer months with Obama as president, so you know I love this one). http://nyti.ms/e2YQ7Q

He supported and signed the Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act, which made more money available to enable better medical care for veterans. Remarks by the President at signing of the Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act | The White House

He ushered through the largest spending increase in 30 years for the Department of Veterans Affairs for improved medical facilities, and to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing homes and extended care facilities. President Obama

He created the Green Vet Initiative, which provided special funding to the Labor Department to provide veterans with training in green jobs. PolitiFact | The Obameter: Create a 'Green Vet Initiative' to promote environmental jobs for veterans

He oversaw a $4.6 billion expansion of the Veterans Administration budget to pay for more mental health professionals. Our Products - VA Office of Budget

Education

He has repeatedly increased funding for student financial aid, and at the same time cut the banks completely out of the process. PolitiFact | The Obameter: Expand Pell grants for low-income students Obama http://bit.ly/eEzTNq

Completely reformed the student loan program, to make it possible for students to refinance at a lower rate. http://nyti.ms/dMvHOt

Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act , he invested heavily in elementary, secondary and post-secondary education. Education | The White House This includes a major expansion of broadband availability in K-12 schools nationwide Obama announces new U.S. broadband connection funding - CNN , as well as an expansion in school construction. Obama: Education Money Must Come With Reform - Politics K-12 - Education Week

Also through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he put $5 billion into early education, including Head Start. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009: Education Jobs and Reform

Signed the Post-9/11 GI Bill, also known as GI Bill 2.0 http://bit.ly/hPhG7J

He oversaw expansion of the Pell Grants program, to expand opportunity for low-income students to go to college. PolitiFact | The Obameter: Expand Pell grants for low-income students

He passed the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, which provided an extra $12.2 billion in funds. American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009: IDEA Recovery Funds for Services to Children and Youths with Disabilities

You can use your keyboard to C&P
 
Far too many dems and far too many pubs

Aside from "He's not Romney" What do you seriously believe that he has brought to the Office of the President. Name what he has done that has actually helped America.

Specifics would be greatly appreciated....

while i understand your question. the thread title is clearly not intended to lead to "clean debate". i've never known anyone to use the president's middle name without a specific purpose.

i'd prefer to hear what there is about going back to all of the failed policies of the bush administration that would appeal to anyone.

How many democrats supported Bushes failed policy?
 
I already spoke my truth. If you're going to blow off every last word, fair game, then. We have nothing further to discuss.

The problem is you made issue of people not giving you feedback. You gave near meaningless points that can’t even be measured as accomplishments.

If my goal was to mow the lawn and make it healthy but I instead cut the lawn to low with dull blades ripping the grass so that much of the lawn died did I accomplish my goal?

You use Obamacare as if it has lived up to a single benchmark Obama and his team set. The Stimulus and Obamacare both failed to do ANYTHING they claimed, so you and they count passing of the bills as the accomplishment instead of fixing the issue.

Obamacare’s goal was to immediately lower HC costs and create jobs, in fact there are less jobs and HC costs are growing faster now due to Obamacare. So the accomplishment of passing the bill is meaningless if the accomplishment of fixing the problem never happens.

You asked for feedback on talking points, if you don't like that feedback it's your choice to blow off every last word.

Exactly.

But I never mentioned the stimulus.

My mouse is behaving badly, so until I can get a new one, C&P is not really my friend. But visit the following link, with citations for every line, to see why I believe as I do.

A LONG List of President Obama’s Accomplishments! With Citations! | Addicting Info

Edit: Finally got the mouse to click & grab - at least once.

Treating Soldiers and Veterans with Respect

He made sure that families of fallen soldiers could be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB, by providing funding for it. He also ended the media blackout on coverage of the return of fallen soldiers.Pentagon Will Help Families Travel to Dover - NYTimes.com BBC NEWS | Americas | US war dead media blackout lifted

He funded Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with an extra $1.4 billion to improve veterans’ services. Veterans | The White House

He provided the troops with better body armor. Obama wants another $83 billion for Iraq, Afghanistan - CNN

Created the Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Record program for military personnel, in order to improve the quality of their medical care. "The Care They Were Promised and the Benefits That They Have Earned" | The White House

He put an end to the Bush-era stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan beyond their enlistment date. (personal note: my son will be in harm’s way for six fewer months with Obama as president, so you know I love this one). http://nyti.ms/e2YQ7Q

He supported and signed the Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act, which made more money available to enable better medical care for veterans. Remarks by the President at signing of the Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act | The White House

He ushered through the largest spending increase in 30 years for the Department of Veterans Affairs for improved medical facilities, and to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing homes and extended care facilities. President Obama

He created the Green Vet Initiative, which provided special funding to the Labor Department to provide veterans with training in green jobs. PolitiFact | The Obameter: Create a 'Green Vet Initiative' to promote environmental jobs for veterans

He oversaw a $4.6 billion expansion of the Veterans Administration budget to pay for more mental health professionals. Our Products - VA Office of Budget

Education

He has repeatedly increased funding for student financial aid, and at the same time cut the banks completely out of the process. PolitiFact | The Obameter: Expand Pell grants for low-income students Obama http://bit.ly/eEzTNq

Completely reformed the student loan program, to make it possible for students to refinance at a lower rate. http://nyti.ms/dMvHOt

Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act , he invested heavily in elementary, secondary and post-secondary education. Education | The White House This includes a major expansion of broadband availability in K-12 schools nationwide Obama announces new U.S. broadband connection funding - CNN , as well as an expansion in school construction. Obama: Education Money Must Come With Reform - Politics K-12 - Education Week

Also through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he put $5 billion into early education, including Head Start. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009: Education Jobs and Reform

Signed the Post-9/11 GI Bill, also known as GI Bill 2.0 http://bit.ly/hPhG7J

He oversaw expansion of the Pell Grants program, to expand opportunity for low-income students to go to college. PolitiFact | The Obameter: Expand Pell grants for low-income students

He passed the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, which provided an extra $12.2 billion in funds. http://1.usa.gov/dQvtUe

And in about 45 seconds I can google Bush's list, then Clintons, then Bush's then Reagan's list... Would you like me to do that?

More simply put you’re not debating. You’re tossing out meaningless lists or talking points and not backing any of it up with how it fixed anything. I don’t care about Obama’s huge massive list of spending, the economy is compared to that of the great depression, so obviously that grand accomplishments list lacks the policies that help an economy and jobs.

This is where talking points and trolling comes into play… This is where this section hopes to stem that flow. What I mean to say is please don’t link me that “massive Obama accomplishments list” then tell me that the economy still sucks because Republicans block everything Obama tries to do… Obviously by such a large list if Obama wanted to get something done with the economy and UE he very well could have.
 
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The problem is you made issue of people not giving you feedback. You gave near meaningless points that can’t even be measured as accomplishments.

If my goal was to mow the lawn and make it healthy but I instead cut the lawn to low with dull blades ripping the grass so that much of the lawn died did I accomplish my goal?

You use Obamacare as if it has lived up to a single benchmark Obama and his team set. The Stimulus and Obamacare both failed to do ANYTHING they claimed, so you and they count passing of the bills as the accomplishment instead of fixing the issue.

Obamacare’s goal was to immediately lower HC costs and create jobs, in fact there are less jobs and HC costs are growing faster now due to Obamacare. So the accomplishment of passing the bill is meaningless if the accomplishment of fixing the problem never happens.

You asked for feedback on talking points, if you don't like that feedback it's your choice to blow off every last word.

Exactly.

But I never mentioned the stimulus.

My mouse is behaving badly, so until I can get a new one, C&P is not really my friend. But visit the following link, with citations for every line, to see why I believe as I do.

A LONG List of President Obama’s Accomplishments! With Citations! | Addicting Info

Edit: Finally got the mouse to click & grab - at least once.

Treating Soldiers and Veterans with Respect

He made sure that families of fallen soldiers could be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB, by providing funding for it. He also ended the media blackout on coverage of the return of fallen soldiers.Pentagon Will Help Families Travel to Dover - NYTimes.com BBC NEWS | Americas | US war dead media blackout lifted

He funded Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with an extra $1.4 billion to improve veterans’ services. Veterans | The White House

He provided the troops with better body armor. Obama wants another $83 billion for Iraq, Afghanistan - CNN

Created the Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Record program for military personnel, in order to improve the quality of their medical care. "The Care They Were Promised and the Benefits That They Have Earned" | The White House

He put an end to the Bush-era stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan beyond their enlistment date. (personal note: my son will be in harm’s way for six fewer months with Obama as president, so you know I love this one). http://nyti.ms/e2YQ7Q

He supported and signed the Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act, which made more money available to enable better medical care for veterans. Remarks by the President at signing of the Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act | The White House

He ushered through the largest spending increase in 30 years for the Department of Veterans Affairs for improved medical facilities, and to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing homes and extended care facilities. President Obama

He created the Green Vet Initiative, which provided special funding to the Labor Department to provide veterans with training in green jobs. PolitiFact | The Obameter: Create a 'Green Vet Initiative' to promote environmental jobs for veterans

He oversaw a $4.6 billion expansion of the Veterans Administration budget to pay for more mental health professionals. Our Products - VA Office of Budget

Education

He has repeatedly increased funding for student financial aid, and at the same time cut the banks completely out of the process. PolitiFact | The Obameter: Expand Pell grants for low-income students Obama http://bit.ly/eEzTNq

Completely reformed the student loan program, to make it possible for students to refinance at a lower rate. http://nyti.ms/dMvHOt

Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act , he invested heavily in elementary, secondary and post-secondary education. Education | The White House This includes a major expansion of broadband availability in K-12 schools nationwide Obama announces new U.S. broadband connection funding - CNN , as well as an expansion in school construction. Obama: Education Money Must Come With Reform - Politics K-12 - Education Week

Also through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he put $5 billion into early education, including Head Start. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009: Education Jobs and Reform

Signed the Post-9/11 GI Bill, also known as GI Bill 2.0 http://bit.ly/hPhG7J

He oversaw expansion of the Pell Grants program, to expand opportunity for low-income students to go to college. PolitiFact | The Obameter: Expand Pell grants for low-income students

He passed the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, which provided an extra $12.2 billion in funds. American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009: IDEA Recovery Funds for Services to Children and Youths with Disabilities

And in about 45 seconds I can google Bush's list, then Clintons, then Bush's then Reagan's list... Would you like me to do that?

To what point. This thread is about Obama.
 
The problem is you made issue of people not giving you feedback. You gave near meaningless points that can’t even be measured as accomplishments.

If my goal was to mow the lawn and make it healthy but I instead cut the lawn to low with dull blades ripping the grass so that much of the lawn died did I accomplish my goal?

You use Obamacare as if it has lived up to a single benchmark Obama and his team set. The Stimulus and Obamacare both failed to do ANYTHING they claimed, so you and they count passing of the bills as the accomplishment instead of fixing the issue.

Obamacare’s goal was to immediately lower HC costs and create jobs, in fact there are less jobs and HC costs are growing faster now due to Obamacare. So the accomplishment of passing the bill is meaningless if the accomplishment of fixing the problem never happens.

You asked for feedback on talking points, if you don't like that feedback it's your choice to blow off every last word.

Exactly.

But I never mentioned the stimulus.

My mouse is behaving badly, so until I can get a new one, C&P is not really my friend. But visit the following link, with citations for every line, to see why I believe as I do.

A LONG List of President Obama’s Accomplishments! With Citations! | Addicting Info

Edit: Finally got the mouse to click & grab - at least once.

Treating Soldiers and Veterans with Respect

He made sure that families of fallen soldiers could be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB, by providing funding for it. He also ended the media blackout on coverage of the return of fallen soldiers.Pentagon Will Help Families Travel to Dover - NYTimes.com BBC NEWS | Americas | US war dead media blackout lifted

He funded Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with an extra $1.4 billion to improve veterans’ services. Veterans | The White House

He provided the troops with better body armor. Obama wants another $83 billion for Iraq, Afghanistan - CNN

Created the Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Record program for military personnel, in order to improve the quality of their medical care. "The Care They Were Promised and the Benefits That They Have Earned" | The White House

He put an end to the Bush-era stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan beyond their enlistment date. (personal note: my son will be in harm’s way for six fewer months with Obama as president, so you know I love this one). http://nyti.ms/e2YQ7Q

He supported and signed the Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act, which made more money available to enable better medical care for veterans. Remarks by the President at signing of the Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act | The White House

He ushered through the largest spending increase in 30 years for the Department of Veterans Affairs for improved medical facilities, and to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing homes and extended care facilities. President Obama

He created the Green Vet Initiative, which provided special funding to the Labor Department to provide veterans with training in green jobs. PolitiFact | The Obameter: Create a 'Green Vet Initiative' to promote environmental jobs for veterans

He oversaw a $4.6 billion expansion of the Veterans Administration budget to pay for more mental health professionals. Our Products - VA Office of Budget

Education

He has repeatedly increased funding for student financial aid, and at the same time cut the banks completely out of the process. PolitiFact | The Obameter: Expand Pell grants for low-income students Obama http://bit.ly/eEzTNq

Completely reformed the student loan program, to make it possible for students to refinance at a lower rate. http://nyti.ms/dMvHOt

Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act , he invested heavily in elementary, secondary and post-secondary education. Education | The White House This includes a major expansion of broadband availability in K-12 schools nationwide Obama announces new U.S. broadband connection funding - CNN , as well as an expansion in school construction. Obama: Education Money Must Come With Reform - Politics K-12 - Education Week

Also through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he put $5 billion into early education, including Head Start. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009: Education Jobs and Reform

Signed the Post-9/11 GI Bill, also known as GI Bill 2.0 http://bit.ly/hPhG7J

He oversaw expansion of the Pell Grants program, to expand opportunity for low-income students to go to college. PolitiFact | The Obameter: Expand Pell grants for low-income students

He passed the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, which provided an extra $12.2 billion in funds. American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009: IDEA Recovery Funds for Services to Children and Youths with Disabilities

You can use your keyboard to C&P

But how to hilite before cutting.
 
Exactly.

But I never mentioned the stimulus.

My mouse is behaving badly, so until I can get a new one, C&P is not really my friend. But visit the following link, with citations for every line, to see why I believe as I do.

A LONG List of President Obama’s Accomplishments! With Citations! | Addicting Info

Edit: Finally got the mouse to click & grab - at least once.

And in about 45 seconds I can google Bush's list, then Clintons, then Bush's then Reagan's list... Would you like me to do that?

To what point. This thread is about Obama.

I did an edit on that post.

More simply put you’re not debating. You’re tossing out meaningless lists or talking points and not backing any of it up with how it fixed anything. I don’t care about Obama’s huge massive list of spending, the economy is compared to that of the great depression, so obviously that grand accomplishments list lacks the policies that help an economy and jobs.

This is where talking points and trolling comes into play… This is where this section hopes to stem that flow. What I mean to say is please don’t link me that “massive Obama accomplishments list” then tell me that the economy still sucks because Republicans block everything Obama tries to do… Obviously by such a large list if Obama wanted to get something done with the economy and UE he very well could have.
 
And in about 45 seconds I can google Bush's list, then Clintons, then Bush's then Reagan's list... Would you like me to do that?

To what point. This thread is about Obama.

I did an edit on that post.

More simply put you’re not debating. You’re tossing out meaningless lists or talking points and not backing any of it up with how it fixed anything. I don’t care about Obama’s huge massive list of spending, the economy is compared to that of the great depression, so obviously that grand accomplishments list lacks the policies that help an economy and jobs.

This is where talking points and trolling comes into play… This is where this section hopes to stem that flow. What I mean to say is please don’t link me that “massive Obama accomplishments list” then tell me that the economy still sucks because Republicans block everything Obama tries to do… Obviously by such a large list if Obama wanted to get something done with the economy and UE he very well could have.

I posted what he is accomplished, because it is what I am proud of him accomplishing. That is not talking points. That is statement of facts. Apparently I am fine with what was done. You, not so much. The fact that we are polar opposites in our beliefs and how we perceive things does not make either one of us right OR wrong.
 
Aside from "He's not Romney" What do you seriously believe that he has brought to the Office of the President. Name what he has done that has actually helped America.

Specifics would be greatly appreciated....

Obama has shown us what a "one term" President looks like. In my opinion, he is the worst President this country has ever had. His "I'm sorry" world tour at the beginning of his Presidency was very ugly for America and shameful. There is no subject that he hasn't lied about in public. His legacy will be to show us a point in history that we never want to return to again.
 
1. Class.

2. A steady hand

3. Intelligence.

4. Thoughtfulness

5. A sense of humor

6. A self effacing personality

7. Moderation

8. A stable economy

9. Civility (for the contrast see anything stated by VP Cheney)

10. A role model for the next generation of leaders.

We're looking for things that make a good president, not things that make a good boyfriend.

List them then...Tell us what makes Obama a good President..list all his accomplishments that justifies a 2nd term, besides the death of bin laden, which any president with the same intel would have ordered.
 
I can name one thing that he WILL do that will help America, and that's GET OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE!

Until then, he hasn't done one damn thing to help this country. His term in office has been one massive push for wealth redistribution, aka-socialism, massive government take over and growth, MIND NUMBING spending and debt growth, and pushing back race relations 75 years. He's the worst president this country has ever seen, and he's not even done yet.
 
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-Killing Osama Bin Laden.
-Passing the Lilly Ledbetter Act.
-Passing the ACA.
-Saving the Financial Industry.
-Saving the Auto Industry.
-Steady job growth.
-Securing the borders with National Guard.
-Deporting Illegals at a record pace.
-Normalizing relations with our Allies.
-SALT agreement with Russia.
-Made BP pay to clean up their mess.
-Saved 2 journalists from North Korea.
-Killing Al Qaeda leaders and members at a record pace.
-Backed the factions that killed Mommar Gaddafi.
-Middle Class and Small Business Tax cut.
-Is serious about paying down the debt.
-Brought Iraq to a successful conclusion.
-Stabilized Afghanistan.
 
To what point. This thread is about Obama.

I did an edit on that post.

More simply put you’re not debating. You’re tossing out meaningless lists or talking points and not backing any of it up with how it fixed anything. I don’t care about Obama’s huge massive list of spending, the economy is compared to that of the great depression, so obviously that grand accomplishments list lacks the policies that help an economy and jobs.

This is where talking points and trolling comes into play… This is where this section hopes to stem that flow. What I mean to say is please don’t link me that “massive Obama accomplishments list” then tell me that the economy still sucks because Republicans block everything Obama tries to do… Obviously by such a large list if Obama wanted to get something done with the economy and UE he very well could have.

I posted what he is accomplished, because it is what I am proud of him accomplishing. That is not talking points. That is statement of facts. Apparently I am fine with what was done. You, not so much. The fact that we are polar opposites in our beliefs and how we perceive things does not make either one of us right OR wrong.

Oddly Obama's list is strikingly similar to that of Bush's list.

Anyways, you are not debating and you were the one that asked for feedback. I honestly think you need to look up how debating works. Sure, you can claim “Obamacare!!!” but that’s not debate… debate is you using Obamacare as a starting point and then showing *why* you think it was a good thing, usually consisting of sources factual information that lead you to believe Obamacare or whatever you’re debating is something you agree with.

Again, you asked for feed back of a list, not a list with your personal reasons for supporting that list, just a list.
 

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