Axelrod: “There’s this reign of terror going on in the Republican Party”

[Some Guy]

Steph, claiming something will happen is not the same as showing how it will happen. If there are less regulations on a business, that business will become more profitable, sure. But then if they're more profitable, why would they hire more workers and raise their costs and lower their profits? None of you are addressing this.

You assume they'll be content trying to maintain current business rather than grow business. Sure, they could make that decision. Or, they could choose to spend the money that they would otherwise be spending on attorneys and compliance officers on perhaps a developer that specializes in a new technological field in order to develop a new way of advertising or delivering their product, streamlining production, etc. Or, they could choose to spend the saved money on marketing, anticipating that an improved marketing strategy might help grow business. As business grows, more people are needed to keep up with demand, usually.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

De-regulating industry and expanding permits for drilling certainly does afffect jobs being created.

And for the willfully ignorant I will offer an explanation.

Burdensome and expensive government regulation strangles businesses so we need to eliminate restraints on the "free market" and employers will start hiring.

It's amazing that some people DON'T see this...they are so regulation happy they don't understand the DAMAGE it does to US ALL, but especially BUSINESS

Steph, claiming something will happen is not the same as showing how it will happen. If there are less regulations on a business, that business will become more profitable, sure. But then if they're more profitable, why would they hire more workers and raise their costs and lower their profits? None of you are addressing this.

Why would a business hire more people??

Are you really asking such an idiotic question?

A successful and profitable business grows and that means more people need to be hired to keep up with the growth. Not all (if any) businesses are wanting to remain stagnate.

 

[DontBeStupid]

Steph, claiming something will happen is not the same as showing how it will happen. If there are less regulations on a business, that business will become more profitable, sure. But then if they're more profitable, why would they hire more workers and raise their costs and lower their profits? None of you are addressing this.

Yet Keynesian witch doctors do so all day every day.

False.

Keynesian Economic policy has been demonstrated to work.

Deregulating the oil industry and providing more permits has not been shown to generate jobs. Which is probably why none of you are even attempting to show that.

 

[CandySlice]

Obama campaign= blaa blaa blaaa it's everyone elses FAULT

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posted at 8:41 am on July 13, 2012 by Ed Morrissey
New tone? David Axelrod spoke with National Journal’s Beth Reinhard in a phone interview, excerpts of which were posted a few minutes ago. In the interview, Axelrod decried the “politics of obstruction” — and then compared Republicans to Robespierre:
NJ President Obama has been vague about what he would accomplish in his second term.

AXELROD The president believes you build a strong, sustainable economy by building a strong, viable growing middle class. You have to continue to upgrade our educational system and improve access to higher education and technical training. We have to invest in research and development and the kinds of things that will create high-end, advanced manufacturing jobs. We have to continue to open up markets all over the world for American products. We need to continue with an all-of-the-above energy policy and really push for the development of all sources of energy. Immigration reform is an unfinished piece of business. But the principal thing we need to be pursuing is a very aggressive strategy of putting people back to work.

NJ How would the president accomplish those goals with a Republican-controlled House and possibly Senate?

AXELROD They have had a policy of obstruction from the day the president arrived. When the president is reelected, it will be a rejection of the politics of obstruction. There’s this reign of terror going on in the Republican Party.
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I suppose we shouldn’t be surprised to hear this kind of rhetoric from the flailing and failing Obama campaign. Axelrod and his cohorts have gotten outfought, outraised, and outclassed in two short months after having the field all to themselves for over a year. Yesterday, the campaign accused Mitt Romney of being a felon, which prompted a demand for an apology that will not be coming forthwith, almost assuredly.

Axelrod is not just a cheap demagogue, he’s also a cheap small-d democrat. Voters sent a Republican-controlled House to Washington specifically to force a change in policy, a message that Axelrod and Barack Obama ignored. The House, by the way, has passed budgets and more than a dozen jobs bills. It’s the Democratic-controlled Senate that has been the obstruction, refusing to pass budgets so that conference committees can resolve issues, and ignoring the House jobs bills altogether. Obama has shown zero leadership on this issue, griping about Republican dissent while ignoring completely that his own party has yet to cast one single supporting vote in three tries on his own budget proposals, and won’t even attempt to hold a vote on Obama’s tax proposals.

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Axelrod: “There’s this reign of terror going on in the Republican Party” « Hot Air

This from one of the biggest crooks Chicago ever unleashed on the world.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Steph, claiming something will happen is not the same as showing how it will happen. If there are less regulations on a business, that business will become more profitable, sure. But then if they're more profitable, why would they hire more workers and raise their costs and lower their profits? None of you are addressing this.

Yet Keynesian witch doctors do so all day every day.

False.

Keynesian Economic policy has been demonstrated to work.

Deregulating the oil industry and providing more permits has not been shown to generate jobs. Which is probably why none of you are even attempting to show that.

Show me a time when there was no regulations in the oil industry and I'll show you the biggest oil boom in US history!

 

[naturegirl]

You know the more I read this:

Axelrod: “There’s this reign of terror going on in the Republican Party”

the more I realize Axelrod really hates the republicans, the H*ll with the fact that they are Americans, they are the enemy, they are the terrorists.

Yet the left still supports them. If Obama & Company had put Americans first instead of referring to them as the ENEMY, perhaps he might have even had a chance at a second term.

 

[occupied]

It's amazing that some people DON'T see this...they are so regulation happy they don't understand the DAMAGE it does to US ALL, but especially BUSINESS

People see just fine, deregulation is no guarantee of a single job, especially in the short term, and more oil production is no guarantee of anything when it takes years to bring a field to production.

Your ignorance is showing.

Oil production IS from the well to the refinery. More wells being drilled means more logistical needs from motels, restaurants to transportation. Not to mention the material needed and the means of getting material to jobsites. Fact is there area lot of jobs affected by the oil industry.

Allowing a company to drill an area is no guarantee that they will immediately set to drilling, besides, it is a regional industry at best and nothing but a gift to big petro and another trickle down experiment that would have no sizable effect on national job numbers in any imaginable scenario.

 

[salem.hills]

What does Axelrod do except blame others? Really dislike him a lot he's a cancer to capitalism to hell with him

 

[naturegirl]

What does Axelrod do except blame others? Really dislike him a lot he's a cancer to capitalism to hell with him

Careful, you'll be called a racist bigot!! Oh wait, he's not black, you're good.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

People see just fine, deregulation is no guarantee of a single job, especially in the short term, and more oil production is no guarantee of anything when it takes years to bring a field to production.

Your ignorance is showing.

Oil production IS from the well to the refinery. More wells being drilled means more logistical needs from motels, restaurants to transportation. Not to mention the material needed and the means of getting material to jobsites. Fact is there area lot of jobs affected by the oil industry.

Allowing a company to drill an area is no guarantee that they will immediately set to drilling, besides, it is a regional industry at best and nothing but a gift to big petro and another trickle down experiment that would have no sizable effect on national job numbers in any imaginable scenario.

What is your background in oil production?

I've been in the oil industry for 30 years.

The only thing that slows down immediate drilling in areas known to have oil or gas is the onerous task of aquiring the proper permits. Another reason why government needs to get the hell out of the way.

No sizable affect on job creation?

Look at the Keystone XL pipeline it would have created at least ten thousand jobs. Is that not sizable?

Hell even MSNBC acknowledges oil companies create jobs.


MSNBC finally gives credit to the oil industry for creating jobs in an almost desolate area in North Dakota.


Read more: Americans for Tax Reform : Even MSNBC Acknowledges Oil Companies Create Jobs

 

[kiwiman127]

Oh God Yes!! Yes!! Yes!! Thank you Mitch McConnell, anyone but Obama!!!

Yeah, what a great America loving attitude! Again it's party over country. I'm not voting for Obama, but at least like most Americans I gave the guy a chance. McConnell clearly put party over country before Obama even took office.
Does any one have a clue where America would be today if Republicans and Democrats acted like they actually cared more about there country than their worthless parties?
I would care to bet that America would be standing economically more secure.
In times of crisis politcs should get thrown out the window just like it did after 9/11 and every other crisis this country has faced.

No sir it's country over obama-nation. Compromise that does less damage, is still damaging.
Carrying this to an absurd level, suppose party "A" proposed legislation ordering the military to execute all registered members of party "B". This would be stupid, dangerous and unconstitutional legislation, but "compromise" would be to pass a final bill that killed half of party "A" and half of party "B".
Any :compromise" that compromises human rights or ethics is wrong. I would much rather see nothing get done than the wrong thing be done half way.

Yeah, getting nothing done is really helping America.

 

[DontBeStupid]

Your ignorance is showing.

Oil production IS from the well to the refinery. More wells being drilled means more logistical needs from motels, restaurants to transportation. Not to mention the material needed and the means of getting material to jobsites. Fact is there area lot of jobs affected by the oil industry.

Allowing a company to drill an area is no guarantee that they will immediately set to drilling, besides, it is a regional industry at best and nothing but a gift to big petro and another trickle down experiment that would have no sizable effect on national job numbers in any imaginable scenario.

What is your background in oil production?

I've been in the oil industry for 30 years.

The only thing that slows down immediate drilling in areas known to have oil or gas is the onerous task of aquiring the proper permits. Another reason why government needs to get the hell out of the way.

No sizable affect on job creation?

Look at the Keystone XL pipeline it would have created at least ten thousand jobs. Is that not sizable?

Hell even MSNBC acknowledges oil companies create jobs.


MSNBC finally gives credit to the oil industry for creating jobs in an almost desolate area in North Dakota.


Read more: Americans for Tax Reform : Even MSNBC Acknowledges Oil Companies Create Jobs

No one is saying the oil industry doesn't create jobs. No one is saying the XL Pipeline wouldn't create jobs. No one is saying a permit couldn't POSSIBLY lead to more jobs.

But that is different from the claims from the Right that getting a permit and getting rid of regulations ALWAYS leads to jobs. That's simply not true and no one is even trying to show how it's true. You all are taking the GOP at face value without stopping to think.

 

[occupied]

Allowing a company to drill an area is no guarantee that they will immediately set to drilling, besides, it is a regional industry at best and nothing but a gift to big petro and another trickle down experiment that would have no sizable effect on national job numbers in any imaginable scenario.

What is your background in oil production?

I've been in the oil industry for 30 years.

The only thing that slows down immediate drilling in areas known to have oil or gas is the onerous task of aquiring the proper permits. Another reason why government needs to get the hell out of the way.

No sizable affect on job creation?

Look at the Keystone XL pipeline it would have created at least ten thousand jobs. Is that not sizable?

Hell even MSNBC acknowledges oil companies create jobs.


MSNBC finally gives credit to the oil industry for creating jobs in an almost desolate area in North Dakota.


Read more: Americans for Tax Reform : Even MSNBC Acknowledges Oil Companies Create Jobs

No one is saying the oil industry doesn't create jobs. No one is saying the XL Pipeline wouldn't create jobs. No one is saying a permit couldn't POSSIBLY lead to more jobs.

But that is different from the claims from the Right that getting a permit and getting rid of regulations ALWAYS leads to jobs. That's simply not true and no one is even trying to show how it's true. You all are taking the GOP at face value without stopping to think.

Thank you for answering more kindly than I would have, we need jobs everywhere and right now, not just in one industry that tends to be regional and dependent more on the benchmark price of crude than any evil regulation.

 

[rightwinger]

. AXELROD The president believes you build a strong, sustainable economy by building a strong, viable growing middle class. You have to continue to upgrade our educational system and improve access to higher education and technical training. We have to invest in research and development and the kinds of things that will create high-end, advanced manufacturing jobs. We have to continue to open up markets all over the world for American products. We need to continue with an all-of-the-above energy policy and really push for the development of all sources of energy. Immigration reform is an unfinished piece of business. But the principal thing we need to be pursuing is a very aggressive strategy of putting people back to work.

Couldn't have said it better myself

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Allowing a company to drill an area is no guarantee that they will immediately set to drilling, besides, it is a regional industry at best and nothing but a gift to big petro and another trickle down experiment that would have no sizable effect on national job numbers in any imaginable scenario.

What is your background in oil production?

I've been in the oil industry for 30 years.

The only thing that slows down immediate drilling in areas known to have oil or gas is the onerous task of aquiring the proper permits. Another reason why government needs to get the hell out of the way.

No sizable affect on job creation?

Look at the Keystone XL pipeline it would have created at least ten thousand jobs. Is that not sizable?

Hell even MSNBC acknowledges oil companies create jobs.


MSNBC finally gives credit to the oil industry for creating jobs in an almost desolate area in North Dakota.


Read more: Americans for Tax Reform : Even MSNBC Acknowledges Oil Companies Create Jobs

No one is saying the oil industry doesn't create jobs. No one is saying the XL Pipeline wouldn't create jobs. No one is saying a permit couldn't POSSIBLY lead to more jobs.

But that is different from the claims from the Right that getting a permit and getting rid of regulations ALWAYS leads to jobs. That's simply not true and no one is even trying to show how it's true. You all are taking the GOP at face value without stopping to think.

Common sense escapes you.

Think about it, a company pays millions to comply with onerous regulations, money that could be used to hire more people. Take away the regulations and you free up funds the company can use to grow itself which means more jobs.


Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senator Rob Portman (R-OH), with Senators John Cornyn (R-TX), Mike Crapo (R-ID), Mike Enzi (R-WY), Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Jim Risch (R-ID), and Pat Toomey (R-PA),today introduced a bill to reduce excessive unfunded government mandates on job creators, giving them greater freedom to invest in their companies and hire new workers.

The new legislation would strengthen the Unfunded Mandates Reform Act of 1995 (UMRA), for which Portman was a lead co-sponsor in the 104th Congress. UMRA was a bipartisan effort to prevent Congress and federal regulators from blindly imposing major economic burdens on the private sector and on state, local and tribal governments without weighing the costs and benefits.

Would you support this legislation?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

What is your background in oil production?

I've been in the oil industry for 30 years.

The only thing that slows down immediate drilling in areas known to have oil or gas is the onerous task of aquiring the proper permits. Another reason why government needs to get the hell out of the way.

No sizable affect on job creation?

Look at the Keystone XL pipeline it would have created at least ten thousand jobs. Is that not sizable?

Hell even MSNBC acknowledges oil companies create jobs.


MSNBC finally gives credit to the oil industry for creating jobs in an almost desolate area in North Dakota.


Read more: Americans for Tax Reform : Even MSNBC Acknowledges Oil Companies Create Jobs

No one is saying the oil industry doesn't create jobs. No one is saying the XL Pipeline wouldn't create jobs. No one is saying a permit couldn't POSSIBLY lead to more jobs.

But that is different from the claims from the Right that getting a permit and getting rid of regulations ALWAYS leads to jobs. That's simply not true and no one is even trying to show how it's true. You all are taking the GOP at face value without stopping to think.

Thank you for answering more kindly than I would have, we need jobs everywhere and right now, not just in one industry that tends to be regional and dependent more on the benchmark price of crude than any evil regulation.

I'm guessing from your dodge that you have zero experience in oil production.

 

[occupied]

No one is saying the oil industry doesn't create jobs. No one is saying the XL Pipeline wouldn't create jobs. No one is saying a permit couldn't POSSIBLY lead to more jobs.

But that is different from the claims from the Right that getting a permit and getting rid of regulations ALWAYS leads to jobs. That's simply not true and no one is even trying to show how it's true. You all are taking the GOP at face value without stopping to think.

Thank you for answering more kindly than I would have, we need jobs everywhere and right now, not just in one industry that tends to be regional and dependent more on the benchmark price of crude than any evil regulation.

I'm guessing from your dodge that you have zero experience in oil production.

What dodge? Explain how opening a new field is supposed to generate a bunch of jobs nationwide within short time scale, say 6 months to a year? At best the act would be the equivalent of building a highway in a couple of states to be started when the states can get around to planning and funding the thing.

 

[Some Guy]

But that is different from the claims from the Right that getting a permit and getting rid of regulations ALWAYS leads to jobs. That's simply not true and no one is even trying to show how it's true. You all are taking the GOP at face value without stopping to think.

You're right about how it doesn't always lead to new jobs. You're wrong in claiming that all republicans claim that is always does. That might be your perception but it's an awful strong assumption to claim that every republican everywhere as always claimed that deregulation always leads to new jobs.

The fact remains that the more you need to comply with regulations, the more time it takes away from actual business, therefore the more people are required to understand, study and therefore set actions in place to ensure that the company complies with regulations. Remove regulations, you remove the cost of complying with them in favor of actually performing the business, and performing the business is what allows said business to expand, grow and therefore employ more people than it might otherwise had.

Of course, this doesn't address the actual regulations and why they're in place. That's the gray area. You can't allow oil companies to drill right through baby seals for it.

 

[naturegirl]

. AXELROD The president believes you build a strong, sustainable economy by building a strong, viable growing middle class. You have to continue to upgrade our educational system and improve access to higher education and technical training. We have to invest in research and development and the kinds of things that will create high-end, advanced manufacturing jobs. We have to continue to open up markets all over the world for American products. We need to continue with an all-of-the-above energy policy and really push for the development of all sources of energy. Immigration reform is an unfinished piece of business. But the principal thing we need to be pursuing is a very aggressive strategy of putting people back to work.

Couldn't have said it better myself

Problem is all that costs money we don't have, perfect groundwork for increasing taxes. They'd be better off focusing on manufacturing and industry to bring regular old factory jobs back for regular ole folks.

We've upgraded the educational system to a point that too many of our high school grads can't understand basic Algebra or Geometry. Forget about spelling and grammar. We cannot afford to spend more on education until we get our education where it needs to be. We're spending more than we ever have and dumbing down the students.

Have you seen the graduation numbers and the skill level of the Chicago Public School System, which by the way was recently downgraded.

 

[DontBeStupid]

Common sense escapes you.

A lot of you seem to think so.

Think about it, a company pays millions to comply with onerous regulations, money that could be used to hire more people. Take away the regulations and you free up funds the company can use to grow itself which means more jobs.

Could? Can? Where is the Would and Will? From your statement, it seems you agree with me. Deregulating an industry gets a company more money, yes. That money means more profits, yes. If a company doesn't see an increased demand for its product, why then would it give up profits to hire people and expand? It wouldn't. It would take the profit from the deregulation and do nothing but sit on it. Much like what companies are doing now. Perhaps you've heard of the almost $2T in cash companies aren't spending?

Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senator Rob Portman (R-OH), with Senators John Cornyn (R-TX), Mike Crapo (R-ID), Mike Enzi (R-WY), Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Jim Risch (R-ID), and Pat Toomey (R-PA),today introduced a bill to reduce excessive unfunded government mandates on job creators, giving them greater freedom to invest in their companies and hire new workers.

The new legislation would strengthen the Unfunded Mandates Reform Act of 1995 (UMRA), for which Portman was a lead co-sponsor in the 104th Congress. UMRA was a bipartisan effort to prevent Congress and federal regulators from blindly imposing major economic burdens on the private sector and on state, local and tribal governments without weighing the costs and benefits.

Would you support this legislation?

Without reading it or hearing specifics? No.