Art of the Deal? Obama’s With Iran Was Much Better Than Trump’s With North Korea

[jknowgood]

Also what deal was signed by Iran?

SO NO ANSWER TO ANY OF MY POST ABOVE YOU FRAUD. WHIFF!

And Iran signed a Comprehensive deal you IDIOT.

Compounding your losses JERK!
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Did it go through congress?

 

[jknowgood]

Yeah, Trump's deal with NK is every bit as bad as it looks.

He makes Obama look like The Great Obama.

Lol, there is no deal yet with North Korea. You dumb fuck.

Says the dumbest one on the Board? There is no deal, there is no indication that a real deal will happen, and there is no indication NK's nukes are going bye bye. The Trumpers are the most guillible goofs on the planet.

Maybe or maybe not, but Trump has already done what no president has.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Yeah, Trump's deal with NK is every bit as bad as it looks.

He makes Obama look like The Great Obama.

Lol, there is no deal yet with North Korea. You dumb fuck.

Says the dumbest one on the Board? There is no deal, there is no indication that a real deal will happen, and there is no indication NK's nukes are going bye bye. The Trumpers are the most guillible goofs on the planet.

You do realize the title of this thread indicates there is a deal, which of course there isn't. You people are all over the map.

 

[jknowgood]

Yeah, Trump's deal with NK is every bit as bad as it looks.

He makes Obama look like The Great Obama.

Lol, there is no deal yet with North Korea. You dumb fuck.

Says the dumbest one on the Board? There is no deal, there is no indication that a real deal will happen, and there is no indication NK's nukes are going bye bye. The Trumpers are the most guillible goofs on the planet.

You do realize the title of this thread indicates there is a deal, which of course there isn't. You people are all over the map.

I know and he calls me dumb, lol. They don't have a clue.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yeah, Trump's deal with NK is every bit as bad as it looks.

He makes Obama look like The Great Obama.

Lol, there is no deal yet with North Korea. You dumb fuck.

Says the dumbest one on the Board? There is no deal, there is no indication that a real deal will happen, and there is no indication NK's nukes are going bye bye. The Trumpers are the most guillible goofs on the planet.

Maybe or maybe not, but Trump has already done what no president has.

Indeed. He gave the murderous NK dictator a one on one summit with him, when every other President tried to corral him into a six nation summit to contain him.

Kim punked Trump.

 

[jknowgood]

Yeah, Trump's deal with NK is every bit as bad as it looks.

He makes Obama look like The Great Obama.

Lol, there is no deal yet with North Korea. You dumb fuck.

Says the dumbest one on the Board? There is no deal, there is no indication that a real deal will happen, and there is no indication NK's nukes are going bye bye. The Trumpers are the most guillible goofs on the planet.

Maybe or maybe not, but Trump has already done what no president has.

Indeed. He gave the murderous NK dictator a one on one summit with him, when every other President tried to corral him into a six nation summit to contain him.

Kim punked Trump.

He is only trying to get a peace deal with Korea. Your transvestite gay boy wish he could've had the chance to do it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Bush was a transvestite? Who knew. Trump gave Kim world status with a one on one, nothing of the sort that a Reagan or 41 or Clinton or 43 or Obama would do. A phucking photo op!

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Bush was a transvestite? Who knew. Trump gave Kim world status with a one on one, nothing of the sort that a Reagan or 41 or Clinton or 43 or Obama would do. A phucking photo op!

What is his "world status" exactly?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Bush was a transvestite? Who knew. Trump gave Kim world status with a one on one, nothing of the sort that a Reagan or 41 or Clinton or 43 or Obama would do. A phucking photo op!

What is his "world status" exactly?

Meet one on one with Trump with all of the blare of world media, hmmm.

 

[abu afak]

Ok, this is my last post to you as I desire to waste no more time with an idiot. Just because you don’t like what I said, doesn’t mean it’s wrong. It is completely correct.
You are dismissed.

LOFL
You said that the last time FredPan.
But what you NEVER have done is post any FACTS re the debate at hand.
Again

You're A FRAUD
The only post you made before I called you out was
"Reality Never agrees with you morons."
Which contains NO facts re the Thread Topic, just a juvenile ad hom
So you are a simpleton TROLL.​

Also again
Thx for the Bump opportunity Sukka Butt

Every time you answer you're bumping up My string/My point, and letting me redo the same.
Thx for the help UNWITting straightman.
Let's see how much longer You can promote Me Dufus!​

Yeah it was sliding down a little too far.
But thx for the previous 2 Page Re-ignite you dope.
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[abu afak]

Did it go through congress?

LOL
Trumpov claims it's "Solved" that we are no longer in Any danger.
Who need congress?
Or anyone but the self-dealing rest of the family
They just sit there doing personal business with the Intelligence reports on anyone they choose to look at/take advantage of.
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[jknowgood]

Did it go through congress?

LOL
Trumpov claims it's "Solved" that we are no longer in Any danger.
Who need congress?
Or anyone but the self-dealing rest of the family
They just sit there doing personal business with the Intelligence reports on anyone they choose to look at/take advantage of.
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Because Trump pretty much got rid of the Iran deal. Much like the rest of Obama's illegitimate legacy.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Only the US has opted out, which has no effect until 2020.

Very little of the Obama legacy has gone away, and that can be re-established easily. So easily.

 

[abu afak]

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[buckeye45_73]

We even had an OP today saying - paraphrase - "Gee, Trump must got something we don't know about".. "It can't be as bad as it looks.
Maybe true, but not for the USA, for Trumpov.
Such as him saving ZTE in exchange for Chinese buddies financing his $500 Mil Indonesia Project.
And the Chinese were the absent Elephant in the Room.
So Trumpov HUGE attention he wanted, and eventually perhaps the 'Trump Pyongyang Hotel and Golf Club.'
Otherwise it's still 2-0 Kim.
Legitinacy they wanted for 30 years, and ending war games.

SIGNING LANGUAGE
The Art of the Deal? Obama’s With Iran Was Much Better Than Trump’s With North Korea
The Singapore statement pales even in comparison with the interim, preliminary Iran deal signed by the U.S. and other world powers in 2013.
BORZOU DARAGAHI - 06.12.18 - 2:13 PM ET
The Art of the Deal? Obama’s With Iran Was Much Better Than Trump’s With North Korea

ISTANBUL — One was the result of 12 years of painstaking negotiations over two U.S. presidential administrations and three changes of government on the other side, with the U.N. Security Council, the International Atomic Energy Agency, and leaders from the capitals of half a dozen countries actively involved.
The other was hammered out by two beefy guys with bad hair during the equivalent of a long layover in Singapore.
[......]
But the Singapore statement, which has been praised by Trump supporters and conservative pundits on cable television, also pales dramatically in comparison to the interim deal that Iran, the U.S. and other world powers signed in 2013.

That four-page document, called the Joint Plan of Action and signed in Geneva on November 24, 2013, ultimately paved the way for the JCPOA, which arms control experts generally regarded as an imperfect but effective way of preventing Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, but Trump repeatedly has called the “worst deal” ever.

Republicans hostile to Barack Obama blasted the Iran deal as appeasing a brutal regime. In contrast, pundits on Fox News lauded Trump for his diplomatic prowess in meeting with North Korea’s leader."..."​

Iran Deal Comparisons Cloud Trump's North Korea Summit
Trump's proclamations of historic success at his unprecedented summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un have drawn unflattering comparisons to his rejection of the Iran nuclear deal.
June 13, 2018 - BY MATTHEW LE - AP Diplomatic Writer
https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...l-comparisons-cloud-trumps-north-korea-summit

(AP) President Donald Trump's triumphant assertions about the success of the unprecedented Singapore summit are being met with skepticism and outright derision from critics seizing on the contradiction between his withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal and his willingness to accept vague pledges from North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
[......]
"While I am glad the president and Kim Jong Un were able to meet, it is difficult to determine what of concrete nature has occurred," said Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He said he wanted Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who will lead the follow-on negotiations, to explain details of what the administration has in mind.

The top Democrat on that panel, Sen. Bob Menendez of New Jersey, who also opposed the Iran deal, took issue with Trump's zeal as well as his announcement of the suspension of U.S.-South Korea military exercises. "In exchange for selfies in Singapore, we have undermined our maximum pressure policy and sanctions," Menendez said.

For Iran deal proponents, though, the Singapore summit was evidence of Trump's Lack of preparedness and poor negotiating skills. Iran deal opponents, meanwhile, seemed willing to wait and see."...​

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/----/ There s no deal with NK. It will be a treaty passed by Congress, unlike the Obozo Iran scam. So why not wait for something to be offered to Congress before you criticize?
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They never worry about facts or honesty....it's always talking points with the left. always

 

[Dan Stubbs]

We even had an OP today saying - paraphrase - "Gee, Trump must got something we don't know about".. "It can't be as bad as it looks.
Maybe true, but not for the USA, for Trumpov.
Such as him saving ZTE in exchange for Chinese buddies financing his $500 Mil Indonesia Project.
And the Chinese were the absent Elephant in the Room.
So Trumpov got the HUGE attention he wanted, and eventually perhaps the 'Trump Pyongyang Hotel and Golf Club.'
Otherwise it's still 2-0 Kim.
Legitimacy they wanted for 30 years, and ending war games.

The Art of the Deal? Obama’s With Iran Was Much Better Than Trump’s With North Korea
The Singapore statement pales even in comparison with the interim, preliminary Iran deal signed by the U.S. and other world powers in 2013.
BORZOU DARAGAHI - 06.12.18 - 2:13 PM ET
The Art of the Deal? Obama’s With Iran Was Much Better Than Trump’s With North Korea

ISTANBUL — One was the result of 12 years of painstaking negotiations over two U.S. presidential administrations and three changes of government on the other side, with the U.N. Security Council, the International Atomic Energy Agency, and leaders from the capitals of half a dozen countries actively involved.
The other was hammered out by two beefy guys with bad hair during the equivalent of a long layover in Singapore.
[......]
But the Singapore statement, which has been praised by Trump supporters and conservative pundits on cable television, also pales dramatically in comparison to the interim deal that Iran, the U.S. and other world powers signed in 2013.

That four-page document, called the Joint Plan of Action and signed in Geneva on November 24, 2013, ultimately paved the way for the JCPOA, which arms control experts generally regarded as an imperfect but effective way of preventing Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, but Trump repeatedly has called the “worst deal” ever.

Republicans hostile to Barack Obama blasted the Iran deal as appeasing a brutal regime. In contrast, pundits on Fox News lauded Trump for his diplomatic prowess in meeting with North Korea’s leader."..."​

Iran Deal Comparisons Cloud Trump's North Korea Summit
Trump's proclamations of historic success at his unprecedented summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un have drawn unflattering comparisons to his rejection of the Iran nuclear deal.
June 13, 2018 - BY MATTHEW LE - AP Diplomatic Writer
https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...l-comparisons-cloud-trumps-north-korea-summit

(AP) President Donald Trump's triumphant assertions about the success of the unprecedented Singapore summit are being met with skepticism and outright derision from critics seizing on the contradiction between his withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal and his willingness to accept vague pledges from North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
[......]
"While I am glad the president and Kim Jong Un were able to meet, it is difficult to determine what of concrete nature has occurred," said Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He said he wanted Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who will lead the follow-on negotiations, to explain details of what the administration has in mind.

The top Democrat on that panel, Sen. Bob Menendez of New Jersey, who also opposed the Iran deal, took issue with Trump's zeal as well as his announcement of the suspension of U.S.-South Korea military exercises.
"In exchange for Selfies in Singapore, we have Undermined our maximum pressure policy and sanctions," Menendez said.

For Iran deal proponents, though, the Singapore summit was evidence of Trump's Lack of preparedness and poor negotiating skills. Iran deal opponents, meanwhile, seemed willing to wait and see."...​

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I must have missed something, we had not signed deal or treaty with Iran. I had to check that out but no deal was made.

 

[abu afak]

They never worry about facts or honesty....it's always talking points with the left. always

Wrong you 12 IQ Turd.
You post NO facts. (While this thread is full of mine above and below)
You just say "liberals suck" and "MAGA."

You're another of the totally empty RW aholes who NEVER post facts.
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[abu afak]

I must have missed something, we had not signed deal or treaty with Iran. I had to check that out but No Deal was made.

"Checked it out" Didya DOPE!
Is like "Wikipedia" to tough for you Trumpkin?

Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action - Wikipedia

The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA... acronym... BARJAM[4][5]),
known commonly as the Iran nuclear deal or Iran deal, is an agreement on the nuclear program of Iran reached in Vienna on 14 July 2015 between Iran, the P5+1 (the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council—China, France, Russia, United Kingdom, United States—plus Germany),[a] and the European Union.

Formal negotiations toward the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action on Iran's nuclear program began with the adoption of the Joint Plan of Action, an interim agreement Signed between Iran and the P5+1 countries in November 2013.

For the next twenty months, Iran and the P5+1 countries engaged in negotiations, and in April 2015 agreed on an Iran nuclear deal framework for the final agreement. In July 2015, Iran and the P5+1 confirmed agreement on the plan along with the "Roadmap Agreement" made between Iran and the IAEA.[8]

Under the Agreement, Iran agreed to eliminate its stockpile of medium-enriched uranium, cut its stockpile of low-enriched uranium by 98%,
and reduce by about two-thirds the number of its gas centrifuges for 13 years.
For the next 15 years, Iran will only enrich uranium up to 3.67%.
Iran also agreed not to build any new heavy-water facilities for the same period of time.
Uranium-enrichment activities will be limited to a single facility using first-generation centrifuges for 10 years.
Other facilities will be converted to avoid proliferation risks.

To monitor and verify Iran's compliance with the agreement, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) will have regular access to ALL Iranian nuclear facilities.
The Agreement provides that in return for verifiably abiding by its commitments, Iran will receive relief from U.S., European Union, and United Nations Security Council nuclear-related economic sanctions...​

You STUPID ASSHOLE
100% of the RW here is TOO Stupid to debate/can't even google.
Resign you effing Moron, and go back to the WWE or Trump rallies in the same arenas/same crowds.
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[xyz]

Bush was a transvestite? Who knew.

I think that's Giuliani.

 

[buckeye45_73]

They never worry about facts or honesty....it's always talking points with the left. always

Wrong you 12 IQ Turd.
You post NO facts. (While this thread is full of mine above and below)
You just say "liberals suck" and "MAGA."

You're another of the totally empty RW aholes who NEVER post facts.
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uh nope, you don't know me.....you are a moron......now go get your sex change